[opensuse] Irritating "feature" - 42.2 & KDE
One thing I've noticed recently is that when I'm doing something like sending an email, the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
In data mercoledì 3 maggio 2017 12:26:00, James Knott ha scritto:
One thing I've noticed recently is that when I'm doing something like sending an email, the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating.
tnx jk This is not a feature. Normally that indicates that plasma does shortly crash. Often this is related to the graphics card and its driver. Do you use intel, nvidia, amd? Also multi-monitor support may(!) matter. You did set what as OpenGL? You may check if your graphics card is well capable to handle OpenGL 3.1 and set it in systems settings of KDE. You may as well for a huge number of X-error files. May be worth a bug-report in case.
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On 05/03/2017 02:45 PM, stakanov wrote:
In data mercoledì 3 maggio 2017 12:26:00, James Knott ha scritto:
One thing I've noticed recently is that when I'm doing something like sending an email, the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating.
tnx jk This is not a feature. Normally that indicates that plasma does shortly crash. Often this is related to the graphics card and its driver. Do you use intel, nvidia, amd? Also multi-monitor support may(!) matter. You did set what as OpenGL? You may check if your graphics card is well capable to handle OpenGL 3.1 and set it in systems settings of KDE. You may as well for a huge number of X-error files. May be worth a bug-report in case.
The video doesn't crash. It just keeps on going, other than the several seconds of black. I have a Xeon E3-1200 Graphics Controller and only 1 monitor. I have absolutely no idea about OpenGL or where the settings for it are. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:11:13 BST James Knott wrote:
On 05/03/2017 02:45 PM, stakanov wrote:
In data mercoledì 3 maggio 2017 12:26:00, James Knott ha scritto:
One thing I've noticed recently is that when I'm doing something like sending an email, the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating.
tnx jk
This is not a feature. Normally that indicates that plasma does shortly crash. Often this is related to the graphics card and its driver. Do you use intel, nvidia, amd? Also multi-monitor support may(!) matter. You did set what as OpenGL? You may check if your graphics card is well capable to handle OpenGL 3.1 and set it in systems settings of KDE. You may as well for a huge number of X-error files. May be worth a bug-report in case.
The video doesn't crash. It just keeps on going, other than the several seconds of black. I have a Xeon E3-1200 Graphics Controller and only 1 monitor. I have absolutely no idea about OpenGL or where the settings for it are. Systemsettings5/Hardware/Display and Monitor/Compositor or opengl settings
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On 05/03/2017 09:26 AM, James Knott wrote:
the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating.
Not part of KDE or Opensuse. Never seen such a thing. Have not seen that on ANY distro on ANY version of kde. You need to start running some diagnostics. Start with your video drivers. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 03:02 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/03/2017 09:26 AM, James Knott wrote:
the desktop goes black for several seconds, leaving only the email app visible. It also happens with other apps. Is there anyway to turn this off? It's very irritating. Not part of KDE or Opensuse. Never seen such a thing. Have not seen that on ANY distro on ANY version of kde.
You need to start running some diagnostics. Start with your video drivers.
How do you run diagnostics on video drivers. Also, I seem to recall a kernel update yesterday. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
How do you run diagnostics on video drivers. Also, I seem to recall a kernel update yesterday.
Well start tailing your logs (journalctl -ef ) or your xsession errors. Its probably not the actual drives, but something interacting with them. I've not seen this on a variety of different hardware. The plasmashell crash stakanov mentioned is a real possibility. But even that is unexplained until you start digging around in all the usual places. Try opening a konsole and launching the application from the commend line and watching for error messages directly in the console, while watching journalctl -ef in another konsole. You haven't even mentioned what kind of email client you are using. Come on, James, you are better than this. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 03:29 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/03/2017 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
How do you run diagnostics on video drivers. Also, I seem to recall a kernel update yesterday. Well start tailing your logs (journalctl -ef ) or your xsession errors. Its probably not the actual drives, but something interacting with them. I've not seen this on a variety of different hardware.
The plasmashell crash stakanov mentioned is a real possibility. But even that is unexplained until you start digging around in all the usual places.
Try opening a konsole and launching the application from the commend line and watching for error messages directly in the console, while watching journalctl -ef in another konsole.
You haven't even mentioned what kind of email client you are using.
Come on, James, you are better than this.
I'm running Seamonkey, but it's running 24/7, so it's not starting it that causes the problem. This happens when I reply to or create a new email. If I do the same in Thunderbird, I get a brief dark flash, but not the several seconds I get with Seamonkey. I tried that journalctl -ef and get the following when I get black desktop: May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start timed out. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /home/jknott/usb. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: home-jknott-usb.mount: Job home-jknott-usb.mount/start failed with result 'dependency'. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start failed with result 'timeout'. May 03 15:47:38 linux kernel: SFW2-INext-ACC-TCP IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=74:d4:35:5b:f5:fa:00:16:17:a7:f2:d3:08:00 SRC=103.249.205.50 DST=172.16.1.10 LEN=60 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x20 TTL=44 ID=62654 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=43697 DPT=22 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B40402080A69392BB70000000001030307) May 03 15:47:38 linux sshd[8025]: Did not receive identification string from 103.249.205.50 There is no flash disk attached to that computer at the moment. Also, I guess someone's trying to connect to my system via ssh. I don't recognize that IP address, but it appears to be coming from India as does another that appeared later.. They won't have much luck getting in via ssh, as they wouldn't have the RSA key. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 12:58 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 05/03/2017 03:29 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/03/2017 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
How do you run diagnostics on video drivers. Also, I seem to recall a kernel update yesterday. Well start tailing your logs (journalctl -ef ) or your xsession errors. Its probably not the actual drives, but something interacting with them. I've not seen this on a variety of different hardware.
The plasmashell crash stakanov mentioned is a real possibility. But even that is unexplained until you start digging around in all the usual places.
Try opening a konsole and launching the application from the commend line and watching for error messages directly in the console, while watching journalctl -ef in another konsole.
You haven't even mentioned what kind of email client you are using.
Come on, James, you are better than this.
I'm running Seamonkey, but it's running 24/7, so it's not starting it that causes the problem. This happens when I reply to or create a new email. If I do the same in Thunderbird, I get a brief dark flash, but not the several seconds I get with Seamonkey.
I tried that journalctl -ef and get the following when I get black desktop: May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start timed out. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /home/jknott/usb. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: home-jknott-usb.mount: Job home-jknott-usb.mount/start failed with result 'dependency'. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start failed with result 'timeout'. May 03 15:47:38 linux kernel: SFW2-INext-ACC-TCP IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=74:d4:35:5b:f5:fa:00:16:17:a7:f2:d3:08:00 SRC=103.249.205.50 DST=172.16.1.10 LEN=60 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x20 TTL=44 ID=62654 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=43697 DPT=22 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B40402080A69392BB70000000001030307) May 03 15:47:38 linux sshd[8025]: Did not receive identification string from 103.249.205.50
There is no flash disk attached to that computer at the moment. Also, I guess someone's trying to connect to my system via ssh. I don't recognize that IP address, but it appears to be coming from India as does another that appeared later.. They won't have much luck getting in via ssh, as they wouldn't have the RSA key.
The constant attacks on ssh filling my logs is why I moved ssh to listen on a nonstandard port. (Yes, I also use fail2ban as well - belt and suspenders) Now as for the Glash disk mount, I wonder if there USED TO BE such a disk and some part of the mail application(s) are still trying to write to that? Does it try to mount that flash drive on EACH mail send? Or only that one you posted? In the Tbird/Monkey setups did you have archives or sent-mail on a flash drive at one point and just left it in the config by accident? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 04:20 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/03/2017 12:58 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 05/03/2017 03:29 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/03/2017 12:13 PM, James Knott wrote:
How do you run diagnostics on video drivers. Also, I seem to recall a kernel update yesterday. Well start tailing your logs (journalctl -ef ) or your xsession errors. Its probably not the actual drives, but something interacting with them. I've not seen this on a variety of different hardware.
The plasmashell crash stakanov mentioned is a real possibility. But even that is unexplained until you start digging around in all the usual places.
Try opening a konsole and launching the application from the commend line and watching for error messages directly in the console, while watching journalctl -ef in another konsole.
You haven't even mentioned what kind of email client you are using.
Come on, James, you are better than this.
I'm running Seamonkey, but it's running 24/7, so it's not starting it that causes the problem. This happens when I reply to or create a new email. If I do the same in Thunderbird, I get a brief dark flash, but not the several seconds I get with Seamonkey.
I tried that journalctl -ef and get the following when I get black desktop: May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start timed out. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /home/jknott/usb. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: home-jknott-usb.mount: Job home-jknott-usb.mount/start failed with result 'dependency'. May 03 15:46:31 linux systemd[1]: dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device: Job dev-disk-by\x2did-scsi\x2dS__Generic_Flash_Disk_8.07\x2dpart1.device/start failed with result 'timeout'. May 03 15:47:38 linux kernel: SFW2-INext-ACC-TCP IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=74:d4:35:5b:f5:fa:00:16:17:a7:f2:d3:08:00 SRC=103.249.205.50 DST=172.16.1.10 LEN=60 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x20 TTL=44 ID=62654 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=43697 DPT=22 WINDOW=14600 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 OPT (020405B40402080A69392BB70000000001030307) May 03 15:47:38 linux sshd[8025]: Did not receive identification string from 103.249.205.50
There is no flash disk attached to that computer at the moment. Also, I guess someone's trying to connect to my system via ssh. I don't recognize that IP address, but it appears to be coming from India as does another that appeared later.. They won't have much luck getting in via ssh, as they wouldn't have the RSA key.
The constant attacks on ssh filling my logs is why I moved ssh to listen on a nonstandard port. (Yes, I also use fail2ban as well - belt and suspenders)
Now as for the Glash disk mount, I wonder if there USED TO BE such a disk and some part of the mail application(s) are still trying to write to that?
Does it try to mount that flash drive on EACH mail send? Or only that one you posted?
In the Tbird/Monkey setups did you have archives or sent-mail on a flash drive at one point and just left it in the config by accident?
I don't think I've ever sent/received a file directly to a flash drive, on any computer. Regardless, I tried rebooting this computer and the problem has cleared, so I have no idea what caused it. I also don't get those flash drive errors now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Now as for the Glash disk mount, I wonder if there USED TO BE such a disk and some part of the mail application(s) are still trying to write to that?
Does it try to mount that flash drive on EACH mail send? Or only that one you posted?
In the Tbird/Monkey setups did you have archives or sent-mail on a flash drive at one point and just left it in the config by accident?
I don't think I've ever sent/received a file directly to a flash drive, on any computer. Regardless, I tried rebooting this computer and the problem has cleared, so I have no idea what caused it. I also don't get those flash drive errors now.
I also assume that at one point some USB stick or alike had been mounted, and had been removed without unmounting. systemd gets really nasty in those cases, keeping a service in failed state that can cause a lot of irritations (like you are no longer able to mount that unit if you reconnect it...) Too late now, but I *assume* that a 'systemctl reset-failed' would have cured the issue... Pit -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen composed on 2017-05-03 12:29 (UTC-0700):
You haven't even mentioned what kind of email client you are using.
Come on, James, you are better than this. Maybe he sees what I see:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/emailUAsm216.png and expects readers to have observed same. He is using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 You are using: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 In KDE3 on 42.1 I too am using SeaMonkey 2.46, but can't recall having ever experienced precisely what he described in his OP. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/03/2017 01:52 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
In KDE3 on 42.1 I too am using SeaMonkey 2.46, but can't recall having ever experienced precisely what he described in his OP.
None of that is germane since a reboot fixed the problem. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen composed on 2017-05-03 14:01 (UTC-0700):
Felix Miata wrote:
In KDE3 on 42.1 I too am using SeaMonkey 2.46, but can't recall having ever experienced precisely what he described in his OP.
None of that is germane since a reboot fixed the problem.
When I'm finished composing an email response I don't as a rule race back to inbox to find and read new posts before sending. I suspect others do likewise. I'm not sure whether his response even arrived before I sent. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On May 3, 2017 2:11:28 PM PDT, Felix Miata
John Andersen composed on 2017-05-03 14:01 (UTC-0700):
Felix Miata wrote:
In KDE3 on 42.1 I too am using SeaMonkey 2.46, but can't recall having ever experienced precisely what he described in his OP.
None of that is germane since a reboot fixed the problem.
When I'm finished composing an email response I don't as a rule race back to inbox to find and read new posts before sending. I suspect others do likewise. I'm not sure whether his response even arrived before I sent.
YES I figured it was something like that. Which is why I try to read the whole thread before I post, because I've fallen into the same situation myself. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
John Andersen composed on 2017-05-03 14:15 (UTC-0700):
When I'm finished composing an email response I don't as a rule race back to inbox to find and read new posts before sending. I suspect others do likewise. I'm not sure whether his response even arrived before I sent.
YES I figured it was something like that. Which is why I try to read the whole thread before I post, because I've fallen into the same situation myself. In this case, substantial time elapsed locating the .png URI. Curious that since posting it received 12 loads but only 10 unique, and of the 3 alike (from 3 different Windows UAs no less), it came from the same city as one unique. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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