[opensuse] Problems installing 11.1
So: I downloaded and burnt the KDE ISO and .... and ... I am unhappy. Although the 'help' seemed to imply there should have been an 'install' option on the CD's boot menu, there wasn't. The only install I could find was a desktop icon after booting. So I used that. And that led to more problems. The disk partitioner *did* recognise that I had a LVM. I could even tell it to read in the existing /etc/fstab for the mount points. But as it went to do the install it ignored all that. The LVM file systems (which included /home/, /tmp/, /var/, /usr/, /usr/share/ and /usr/local) were ignored. They weren't mounted and updated. In fact the root partition was zapped, all my settings were zapped and the installer tried to install everything - /usr/*, /var/*, /home/* ...) on the small root partition. Of course it failed. Things are now very screwed up. I had _some_ backup, but not enough to deal with the complete destruction of everything under /etc. When I've done upgrades of other distributions they've 'added' in parts and respected my configuration changes, the new files coming in as '*.rpmnew' where applicable. I am unhappy. Very unhappy. Quite apart from putting /etc/ back together again, its clear that the installation did not write to the LVM version of /usr/lib and /usr/bin. As a result, lots of things don't work. YAST2 is one of them. So, what went wrong? Did I do something wrong or am I deluded in thinking that this was an 'upgrade' rather than a reinstall? How can I persuade the installer to make use of the LVM volumes? How can I persuade the installer to respect changed files in /etc ? -- Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
So: I downloaded and burnt the KDE ISO and .... and ...
I am unhappy.
Although the 'help' seemed to imply there should have been an 'install' option on the CD's boot menu, there wasn't.
The only install I could find was a desktop icon after booting. So I used that. And that led to more problems.
The disk partitioner *did* recognise that I had a LVM. I could even tell it to read in the existing /etc/fstab for the mount points.
But as it went to do the install it ignored all that. The LVM file systems (which included /home/, /tmp/, /var/, /usr/, /usr/share/ and /usr/local) were ignored. They weren't mounted and updated. In fact the root partition was zapped, all my settings were zapped and the installer tried to install everything - /usr/*, /var/*, /home/* ...) on the small root partition. Of course it failed.
Things are now very screwed up.
I had _some_ backup, but not enough to deal with the complete destruction of everything under /etc.
When I've done upgrades of other distributions they've 'added' in parts and respected my configuration changes, the new files coming in as '*.rpmnew' where applicable.
I am unhappy. Very unhappy. Quite apart from putting /etc/ back together again, its clear that the installation did not write to the LVM version of /usr/lib and /usr/bin. As a result, lots of things don't work. YAST2 is one of them.
So, what went wrong? Did I do something wrong or am I deluded in thinking that this was an 'upgrade' rather than a reinstall?
How can I persuade the installer to make use of the LVM volumes? How can I persuade the installer to respect changed files in /etc ?
Anton, I haven't done an LVM install, so maybe this is off base, but get the correct (32 or 64-bit) DVD ISO and burn it. A CD install just isn't a complete release as a DVD....OFTEN this makes or breaks an install. Fred -- "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly -- and for the same reason." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Fred A. Miller said the following on 12/19/2008 02:02 AM:
How can I persuade the installer to make use of the LVM volumes? How can I persuade the installer to respect changed files in /etc ?
Anton, I haven't done an LVM install, so maybe this is off base, but get the correct (32 or 64-bit) DVD ISO and burn it. A CD install just isn't a complete release as a DVD....OFTEN this makes or breaks an install.
Le me contrast this, then, with the 11.0 install from the live CD that DID have an 'INSTALL' option on the boot menu and that DID respect the LVM an mount the partitions before doing the install. The 11.0 install was so smooth and successful, even compared to other distributions, that I was deceived into thinking this would follow with the same capabilities and smoothness. To coin the immortal phrase: "It worked before, it doesn't work now" For various reasons burning a DVD in the short term is not practical. -- "Politics is the art of appearing candid and completely open, while concealing as much as possible." -- Brian Herbert, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Anton Aylward wrote:
Fred A. Miller said the following on 12/19/2008 02:02 AM:
For various reasons burning a DVD in the short term is not practical.
Then use the network install. Lee ============================================== Leland V. Lammert lvl@omnitec.net Chief Scientist Omnitec Corporation Network/Internet Consultants www.omnitec.net ============================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Continuing problems. I seem to be able to get 2 out of three (boot, networking, gui) (or is it 4 or 5 still to be found...) I've convinced it you CAN boot from a root on /dev/sda7 and that there *IS* a LVM. But now, in the second stage, when rebooting onto the hard drive for the "second stage", it has problems with the GUI. The message in /var/log/kdm.log (echoed in Xorg.0.log and versified by running Sax2) is (EE) Module ABI major(0) doesn't match the server's version (1) (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module requirement mismatch) /usr/bin/x: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libdri.so: undefined symbol: xf86GetPciDomain /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/read_sysconfig.sh: line 75: pam-config not found Since this is, apart from what's under /home, a new install, I wonder what's going on. /anton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anton J Aylward said the following on 12/20/2008 11:08 AM:
Continuing problems.
Since the system is complaining about lack of space I look at what was in /usr, or more specifically /usr/lib Old versions of firefox, thunderbird ---- GONE! Old version of Python - GONE! OpenOffice 2 - GONE! Old version of GraphicsMagic - GONE! Stuff I thought I'd deleted like Opera - GONE! Those were directories. That was easy. Now the hard stuff. # rpm -qf lib* | grep "is not owned by any package" | wc -l 1067 When I drill down I find basenames that are owned by things like 'glibc'. and # rpm -qf libzypp.so.* file /usr/lib/libzypp.so.424 is not owned by any package file /usr/lib/libzypp.so.424.2.4 is not owned by any package file /usr/lib/libzypp.so.424.3.4 is not owned by any package libzypp-5.24.5-1.1 libzypp-5.24.5-1.1 # ls -l libzypp.so.* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-12-19 13:10 libzypp.so.424 -> libzypp.so.424.3.4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3879556 2008-06-06 21:29 libzypp.so.424.2.4 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3879556 2008-10-29 08:42 libzypp.so.424.3.4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2008-12-20 13:23 libzypp.so.523 -> libzypp.so.523.1.5 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4350412 2008-12-03 06:06 libzypp.so.523.1.5 How much can I purge? Can I purge everything that's not owned? (With a script...?) Is there some other integrity/dependency check I can carry out? -- Enter any 11-digit prime number to continue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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