[opensuse] Thunderbird quirk - something new or something I never noticed in the past?
Using TB 31.6.0. When one responds to an e-mail message and sends it without at any time saving it to the DRAFT folder then, on the main page of TB, a little arrow appears at the beginning of the Subject header of the message being replied to; this indicates that one has replied to that message. However, if one first saves the response which one is writing to the DRAFT folder and then completes the message at a later time and sends it then no 'little arrow' appears at the beginning of the Subject header. This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.0.4-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
However, if one first saves the response which one is writing to the DRAFT folder and then completes the message at a later time and sends it then no 'little arrow' appears at the beginning of the Subject header.
just to try it :-) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/05/15 00:30, jdd wrote:
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd
As normal it's only when someone responds that one realises that one could have added more info in an earlier message :-) . Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel and by Saving it it goes into the Draft folder. Then go away and do something else for a while (can even shut down TB as when going to bed) and when you come back to complete the message (?next day) you Edit it as a New Message; finish it and then Send it while in the Draft folder. This is when the little arrow does not show up. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.0.4-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 24/05/2015 08:39, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel
didn't try so much, but save the message as draft, exit the message and relaunch the message then end it and have arrow. May be it's the closing ov th that gives problem? jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/05/15 16:49, jdd wrote:
Le 24/05/2015 08:39, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel
didn't try so much, but save the message as draft, exit the message and relaunch the message then end it and have arrow. May be it's the closing ov th that gives problem?
Nope :-) . See also my following response to Billie. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.0.4-4 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/24/2015 01:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 00:30, jdd wrote:
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd
As normal it's only when someone responds that one realises that one could have added more info in an earlier message :-) .
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel and by Saving it it goes into the Draft folder. Then go away and do something else for a while (can even shut down TB as when going to bed) and when you come back to complete the message (?next day) you Edit it as a New Message; finish it and then Send it while in the Draft folder. This is when the little arrow does not show up.
BC
As a theory, when you save and close down then much later reopen to finish and send could TB see it as a new message rather than a reply. -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 24/05/15 21:21, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 05/24/2015 01:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 00:30, jdd wrote:
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd
As normal it's only when someone responds that one realises that one could have added more info in an earlier message :-) .
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel and by Saving it it goes into the Draft folder. Then go away and do something else for a while (can even shut down TB as when going to bed) and when you come back to complete the message (?next day) you Edit it as a New Message; finish it and then Send it while in the Draft folder. This is when the little arrow does not show up.
BC
As a theory, when you save and close down then much later reopen to finish and send could TB see it as a new message rather than a reply.
Doing what you suggest above as a theory could possibly result in the 'problem'. However, keeping in mind what has been said in this thread by jdd and yourself, earlier this afternoon I started a reply to an e-mail but had to save it to the Draft folder because dinner was being served. I returned to the complete the message (Edit as New Message), was interrupted once again and had to save it Draft, and then finally completed the response some hours after I started it. I did not close down TB at any time. When I finished the response and sent the msg, there was not 'little green' arrow to indicate that I had replied to the e-mail. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.0.4-4 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/02/2015 07:26 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 21:21, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 05/24/2015 01:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 00:30, jdd wrote:
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd
As normal it's only when someone responds that one realises that one could have added more info in an earlier message :-) .
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel and by Saving it it goes into the Draft folder. Then go away and do something else for a while (can even shut down TB as when going to bed) and when you come back to complete the message (?next day) you Edit it as a New Message; finish it and then Send it while in the Draft folder. This is when the little arrow does not show up.
BC
As a theory, when you save and close down then much later reopen to finish and send could TB see it as a new message rather than a reply.
Doing what you suggest above as a theory could possibly result in the 'problem'.
However, keeping in mind what has been said in this thread by jdd and yourself, earlier this afternoon I started a reply to an e-mail but had to save it to the Draft folder because dinner was being served. I returned to the complete the message (Edit as New Message), was interrupted once again and had to save it Draft, and then finally completed the response some hours after I started it. I did not close down TB at any time.
When I finished the response and sent the msg, there was not 'little green' arrow to indicate that I had replied to the e-mail.
BC
I have never "saved" an e-mail I was working on as a draft. I have from time to time left one unfinished for a length of time and TB automatically put it in the Draft box(?). When I have gotten around to finishing it some time later, I don't believe I've ever gone more than an hour or maybe two, as far as I can remember I had the arrow that designated a reply sent. [ As a general rule I delete e-mails after replying to them ] If your actively saving the reply could that break the connection to the message being replied to. Try not saving, just leave it unfinished for a time and see what happens. -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-06-02 14:57, Billie Walsh wrote:
If your actively saving the reply could that break the connection to the message being replied to. Try not saving, just leave it unfinished for a time and see what happens.
Testing... Save and close mail (not thunderbird) Reopened. Send. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2015-06-02 15:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-06-02 14:57, Billie Walsh wrote:
If your actively saving the reply could that break the connection to the message being replied to. Try not saving, just leave it unfinished for a time and see what happens.
Testing... Save and close mail (not thunderbird)
Reopened. Send.
And I see the answered mark. Note: the postponed folder is local. I will do the same now, but closing Thunderbird. [...] Reopen Th, edit draft, send. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 2015-06-02 15:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-06-02 15:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-06-02 14:57, Billie Walsh wrote:
If your actively saving the reply could that break the connection to the message being replied to. Try not saving, just leave it unfinished for a time and see what happens.
Testing... Save and close mail (not thunderbird)
Reopened. Send.
And I see the answered mark. Note: the postponed folder is local.
I will do the same now, but closing Thunderbird.
[...]
Reopen Th, edit draft, send.
And it worked, I see the answered mark. Good :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 02/06/15 22:57, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 06/02/2015 07:26 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 21:21, Billie Walsh wrote:
On 05/24/2015 01:39 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 24/05/15 00:30, jdd wrote:
Le 23/05/2015 16:17, Basil Chupin a écrit :
This lack of the "little arrow" a new development or something which has "always been' and I have never noticed it?
well.. I saved the mail as draft before sending it and I have the arrow :-( jdd
As normal it's only when someone responds that one realises that one could have added more info in an earlier message :-) .
Forgot to mention, while writing a response and one EXITS the write at which point one is asked if you want to SAVE the msg or Delete or Cancel and by Saving it it goes into the Draft folder. Then go away and do something else for a while (can even shut down TB as when going to bed) and when you come back to complete the message (?next day) you Edit it as a New Message; finish it and then Send it while in the Draft folder. This is when the little arrow does not show up.
BC
As a theory, when you save and close down then much later reopen to finish and send could TB see it as a new message rather than a reply.
Doing what you suggest above as a theory could possibly result in the 'problem'.
However, keeping in mind what has been said in this thread by jdd and yourself, earlier this afternoon I started a reply to an e-mail but had to save it to the Draft folder because dinner was being served. I returned to the complete the message (Edit as New Message), was interrupted once again and had to save it Draft, and then finally completed the response some hours after I started it. I did not close down TB at any time.
When I finished the response and sent the msg, there was not 'little green' arrow to indicate that I had replied to the e-mail.
BC
I have never "saved" an e-mail I was working on as a draft. I have from time to time left one unfinished for a length of time and TB automatically put it in the Draft box(?). When I have gotten around to finishing it some time later, I don't believe I've ever gone more than an hour or maybe two, as far as I can remember I had the arrow that designated a reply sent. [ As a general rule I delete e-mails after replying to them ]
I never delete messages after replying to them. However, I *do* delete messages after days or more which first go into the DELETED folder from which I then delete them using the FILE>EMPTY DELETED followed by FILE>COMPACT FOLDERS.
If your actively saving the reply could that break the connection to the message being replied to. Try not saving, just leave it unfinished for a time and see what happens.
OK, I see and get what I am seeing and getting - which is no "little arrow" - and "y'all" are getting what you are getting. There must be some condition which may be causing this discrepancy, but one which I just thought of is that I am talking about PRIVATE e-mails which go into the INBOX itself and not the e-mails which get 'tossed' into the mail-lists such as opensuse or offtopic etc.within the Inbox folder. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.2, KDE 4.14.6 & kernel 4.0.4-5 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-06-06 15:01, Basil Chupin wrote:
There must be some condition which may be causing this discrepancy, but one which I just thought of is that I am talking about PRIVATE e-mails which go into the INBOX itself and not the e-mails which get 'tossed' into the mail-lists such as opensuse or offtopic etc.within the Inbox folder.
My test was done on the Inbox. To a list mail, yes, but on the imap Inbox of my ISP. I worked. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlVzDV0ACgkQja8UbcUWM1w2hQD9Gs3y56+AYqAXNzjkxZHNMHUA Efp1Yr7W51hHToK3qLoA/jLaN+j8NFWCHBmWCNueMg4ggKGxa5kANTbk1YiObxt7 =QilN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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