[opensuse] resurrecting a dead Gnome
Howdy.. [openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome] Monitor died while the system was up (the physical monitor itself died). Upon rebooting with a temporary monitor, I find Gnome windows manager has broken for the user account that was logged in when the other monitor failed. Among other things, all windows are missing their title bars, minimize-maximize-close buttons are missing, Panels are in the wrong places (and can't be moved), keyboard shortcuts don't work, CLI window can be opened from a panel but doesn't accept any typed input, yada yada yada. Question: how do I restore the Gnome settings for this user account? Just the user account Gnome is zapped. Root boots into a normal Gnome, as configured. So does the zapped user account if "failsafe Gnome" is chosen as the Session type at the login screen. Since the "failsafe Gnome" session settings work fine for the user account, I'd be content to just transfer those "failsafe Gnome" settings to the user account, if that's possible and easiest. How? Thanks for any help. Cheers. Ralph -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Howdy..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
Monitor died while the system was up (the physical monitor itself died).
Upon rebooting with a temporary monitor, I find Gnome windows manager has broken for the user account that was logged in when the other monitor failed. Among other things, all windows are missing their title bars, minimize-maximize-close buttons are missing, Panels are in the wrong places (and can't be moved), keyboard shortcuts don't work, CLI window can be opened from a panel but doesn't accept any typed input, yada yada yada.
Question: how do I restore the Gnome settings for this user account?
With the user NOT USING THE GUI, rename (*not* remove...rename) the Gnome directory ( .gnome ?) in the user's home directory. Something like this: mv .gnome .gnome.old If that doesn't work, cd to the user's home directory, and do ls -al Have the user log in to the GUI, and immediately log out of the GUI. This will re-create a "clean" Gnome configuration directory. Then, as the administrator, or as the user from a non-GUI console (ctrl-alt-Fn, where n=2,3,4,5 or 6) copy the more difficult to reconstruct configuration information from the old gnome directory to the new one. All files SHOULD be human readable, so if you don't know what a file does, just look at it using the "more" command.
Just the user account Gnome is zapped. Root boots into a normal Gnome,
Of course.
as configured. So does the zapped user account if "failsafe Gnome" is chosen as the Session type at the login screen. Since the "failsafe Gnome" session settings work fine for the user account, I'd be content to just transfer those "failsafe Gnome" settings to the user account, if that's possible and easiest. How?
Thanks for any help. Cheers.
Ralph
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 04:04 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote: ...
All files SHOULD be human readable, so if you don't know what a file does, just look at it using the "more" command.
Why not "less"? Remember that in linux, less is more than more :-p Similarly, you can use dog instead of cat. Or simply use the wonderful 'mc' browser. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIKW5etTMYHG2NR9URAlIbAJ92mCUphKKoaCgfFyqWbCq8Fu3DlwCgjuVV DPstom/7QpBXIOcTP/72CNY= =Duco -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 04:04 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
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All files SHOULD be human readable, so if you don't know what a file does, just look at it using the "more" command.
Why not "less"? Remember that in linux, less is more than more :-p
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
Similarly, you can use dog instead of cat.
Yes..but again, confusing for newbies.
Or simply use the wonderful 'mc' browser.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 20:10 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Why not "less"? Remember that in linux, less is more than more :-p
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day. The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around.
Or simply use the wonderful 'mc' browser.
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 20:10 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Why not "less"? Remember that in linux, less is more than more :-p
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around.
Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world. When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found. Only after he has learned the "standard" tools do I then move onto the latest conveniences. Having said that, I generally use "less" myself, mostly because command | more can not step backwards, but command | less can step backwards through previously viewed pages.
Or simply use the wonderful 'mc' browser.
And 'mc' is the easiest.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:05 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around.
Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world.
When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found.
I don't. If I show them newbies (coming from windows) at the start such backward tools as 'more', they will hate linux and run for their lives. This is linux, not unix. I'm not interested in unix. Unix is dead :-P What I show them first is 'mc'. Once they know how to move around, I teach them how to exit from 'vi' without pressing the reset key :-p - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIKj4RtTMYHG2NR9URAu8qAJsEubbfyqyBJBLtRx5Ub4a0ujmphQCgmWto y6clipdeZLyuZVjHKwcPadk= =eh86 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:05 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around.
Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world.
When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found.
I don't.
If I show them newbies (coming from windows) at the start such backward tools as 'more', they will hate linux and run for their lives.
This is linux, not unix. I'm not interested in unix. Unix is dead :-P
What I show them first is 'mc'.
I can go with that. But teaching the use of "less" before "more" or to use "dog" before "cat" (if someone doesn't even know about the cat command, the name dog seems to be unnecessarily arbitrary and confusing). That doesn't man "use more for 3 years, and then let them know about less".... just long enough for them to see its deficiencies (like a couple days)...and THEN teach them about less.
Once they know how to move around, I teach them how to exit from 'vi' without pressing the reset key :-p
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:26 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
I can go with that.
But teaching the use of "less" before "more" or to use "dog" before "cat" (if someone doesn't even know about the cat command, the name dog seems to be unnecessarily arbitrary and confusing).
That doesn't man "use more for 3 years, and then let them know about less".... just long enough for them to see its deficiencies (like a couple days)...and THEN teach them about less.
Not a bad idea, but I'd wait about 5 minutes :-) And no, 'dog' I don't use, it's just a curiosity. Too many commands can be confusing, so show just the usefull ones, and just mention others. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIKkQttTMYHG2NR9URAn/NAJ9yCW4n4pi2N4EmgsyS8ioec/SrDACfavmI b12jxEnVooRCes0k254ZIY0= =LIMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 03:19 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:05 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him.
I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around.
Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world.
When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found.
I don't.
If I show them newbies (coming from windows) at the start such backward tools as 'more', they will hate linux and run for their lives.
This is linux, not unix. I'm not interested in unix. Unix is dead :-P
What I show them first is 'mc'.
Once they know how to move around, I teach them how to exit from 'vi' without pressing the reset key :-p
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Well, no thanks to both of you for hijacking my question thread to discuss among yourselves a totally unrelated thing, without providing any useful solution to my original problem..... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 20:41 -0500, listreader wrote:
Well, no thanks to both of you for hijacking my question thread to discuss among yourselves a totally unrelated thing, without providing any useful solution to my original problem.....
Oh, not, that's wrong. Sam provided you good advice, more or less what I would have said. We are waiting for you to comment if it worked or not. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIKk8GtTMYHG2NR9URAt43AJ9rljCfhc58uE19RSmmPO5Sg4m4EgCgkQX5 jvlc6sNLpQl1G/hUIEAt/SA= =5TfT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 03:19 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:05 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him. I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around. Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world.
When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found. I don't.
If I show them newbies (coming from windows) at the start such backward tools as 'more', they will hate linux and run for their lives.
This is linux, not unix. I'm not interested in unix. Unix is dead :-P
What I show them first is 'mc'.
Once they know how to move around, I teach them how to exit from 'vi' without pressing the reset key :-p
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Well, no thanks to both of you for hijacking my question thread to discuss among yourselves a totally unrelated thing, without providing any useful solution to my original problem.....
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* Sam Clemens
listreader wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 03:19 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2008-05-13 at 21:05 -0400, Sam Clemens wrote:
Because he's a newbie, and the last thing I want to do is confuse him. I started to use less from the very first day I had to use a linux system, a telnet session from a windows machine. Or the second day.
The command 'more' is very awkward for a windows user, with the strange pseudo cursor keys to move around. Except that "less" is not universal. While it is found on MANY Linux machines, it is hardly standard in most of the *nix world.
When dealing with newbies, I always teach the most widely used solution for anything, so that if the user finds himself on a different system, he's aware of what is most likely to be found. I don't.
If I show them newbies (coming from windows) at the start such backward tools as 'more', they will hate linux and run for their lives.
This is linux, not unix. I'm not interested in unix. Unix is dead :-P
What I show them first is 'mc'.
Once they know how to move around, I teach them how to exit from 'vi' without pressing the reset key :-p
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Well, no thanks to both of you for hijacking my question thread to discuss among yourselves a totally unrelated thing, without providing any useful solution to my original problem.....
Read my original reply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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[05-14-08 00:50]: listreader wrote:
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 03:19 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Well, no thanks to both of you for hijacking my question thread to discuss among yourselves a totally unrelated thing, without providing any useful solution to my original problem.....
Read my original reply. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Are you certain ?? that it isn't quoted here in the four old levels along with signatures?
Absolutely, or else I would not have written what I wrote. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 02:31 -0500, listreader wrote:
Howdy..
[openSuSE 10.3 - 32bit - Gnome]
Monitor died while the system was up (the physical monitor itself died).
Upon rebooting with a temporary monitor, I find Gnome windows manager has broken for the user account that was logged in when the other monitor failed. Among other things, all windows are missing their title bars, minimize-maximize-close buttons are missing, Panels are in the wrong places (and can't be moved), keyboard shortcuts don't work, CLI window can be opened from a panel but doesn't accept any typed input, yada yada yada.
Question: how do I restore the Gnome settings for this user account?
If you want to restore the default configuration settings, then when
running as the user:
gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /
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