Re: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

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Marco Vittorini Orgeas

30 Jul 2013 30 Jul '13

19:44

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:28:31 PM you wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 12:21, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:07:25 AM Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 10:08, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

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Greg -- Greg Freemyer

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Carlos E. R.

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On Monday, 2013-07-29 at 15:09 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Any comments/instructions on this problem?

Can you hibernate/suspend the machine from the menu?

Along those lines, do you swap space setup?

Lots of people say they no longer setup swap, but to hibernate you have to be able to push all your ram to swap.

Greg

If I'm not wrong I should have 4G of swap but I can verify this.

It is required a minimum amount of swap or just "some swap" in order to hibernate works?

Tks.

Cheers,

Generally the recommended amount is: available swap space = 2 * available RAM space. This because when off, all of your processes virtual memory space in use must be copied somewhere in order to recover its state in a second stage. Note it's recommended: nothing prevents you to have a virtual memory space in use bigger than the recommended. But usually it's a very good trade-off. Hi Marco,

Yes I knew about this general rule for swap sizing, but I meant if are there specific rules for swap sizing in order hibernate work without problem.

Regards,

Well, that is both a general and very specific rule for the issue at hand. You can trust it as it proven to be a very good one. -- Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Marco Calistri

30 Jul 30 Jul

19:58

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 30/07/2013 16:44, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:28:31 PM you wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 12:21, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:07:25 AM Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 10:08, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

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Greg -- Greg Freemyer

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Carlos E. R.

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On Monday, 2013-07-29 at 15:09 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote: > Any comments/instructions on this problem?

Can you hibernate/suspend the machine from the menu?

Along those lines, do you swap space setup?

Lots of people say they no longer setup swap, but to hibernate you have to be able to push all your ram to swap.

Greg

If I'm not wrong I should have 4G of swap but I can verify this.

It is required a minimum amount of swap or just "some swap" in order to hibernate works?

Tks.

Cheers,

Generally the recommended amount is: available swap space = 2 * available RAM space. This because when off, all of your processes virtual memory space in use must be copied somewhere in order to recover its state in a second stage. Note it's recommended: nothing prevents you to have a virtual memory space in use bigger than the recommended. But usually it's a very good trade-off. Hi Marco,

Yes I knew about this general rule for swap sizing, but I meant if are there specific rules for swap sizing in order hibernate work without problem.

Regards,

Well, that is both a general and very specific rule for the issue at hand. You can trust it as it proven to be a very good one.

I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least. How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate? If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates. Chhers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Vittorini Orgeas

20:53

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM. 2) Try to hibernate and re-start. -- Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Vittorini Orgeas

21:43

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:53:36 PM Marco Vittorini Orgeas wrote:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Also be sure your swap partition is not set-up to be encrypted, as this would cause the hibernate to have problems in reading data while resuming. -- Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

22:17

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Which behaviour have I to expect after executing step 2? I will go to see again overal boot-process, login window,...or the machine will restart from the last point I was before hitting the hiber-button? Thanks. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

22:25

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Which behaviour have I to expect after executing step 2?

I will go to see again overal boot-process, login window,...or the machine will restart from the last point I was before hitting the hiber-button?

I don't have a hiber-button, but after hibernate/restart I have the same desktop up and running that I left. I do have to enter my desktop password and my kde wallet password before its all the way back up. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

22:47

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 30/07/2013 19:25, Greg Freemyer ha scritto:

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Which behaviour have I to expect after executing step 2?

I will go to see again overal boot-process, login window,...or the machine will restart from the last point I was before hitting the hiber-button?

I don't have a hiber-button, but after hibernate/restart I have the same desktop up and running that I left. I do have to enter my desktop password and my kde wallet password before its all the way back up.

Greg

Greg, Thanks for your reply. I want to ask, since the mileage may vary. I wrote "hiber-button" but I meant click on the hibernate on right corner menu of Gnome desktop. I will try again by checking SWAP before. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

1 Aug 1 Aug

00:53

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G. marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1 In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

John Andersen

01:00

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On 7/31/2013 5:53 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G.

marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1

In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM.

Cheers,

Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

01:08

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 31/07/2013 22:00, John Andersen ha scritto:

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On 7/31/2013 5:53 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G.

marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1

In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM.

Cheers,

Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

I have to resize my partition in order to verify if the cause of issue is due my smaller swap. Another "bad thing" is that on Gnome system settings there is not "Suspend" option into power-management just "Hibernate" and "Shutdown"! Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

01:26

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 31/07/2013 22:00, John Andersen ha scritto:

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On 7/31/2013 5:53 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G.

marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1

In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM.

Cheers,

Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

I have to resize my partition in order to verify if the cause of issue is due my smaller swap.

Another "bad thing" is that on Gnome system settings there is not "Suspend" option into power-management just "Hibernate" and "Shutdown"!

Can hibernate leverage it if you just add a swapfile? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10:12

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2013-07-31 at 22:08 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

It should be enabled by default. And, if swap is not enough, the system should abort the procedure before starting, or fail gracefully. But the latter I know that not always happens.

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Another "bad thing" is that on Gnome system settings there is not "Suspend" option into power-management just "Hibernate" and "Shutdown"!

The options disapears if the machine is blacklisted. Ie, if the system thinks that the procedure will not succeed. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6NI4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XxOwCeMz/pBlkr1dSsCljNTOi9g5hD 5pYAniBcKRYi3yTkyKcljVX80dy3PAA1 =l0P+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

10:24

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:12:30 +0200 (CEST) Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2013-07-31 at 22:08 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

It should be enabled by default. And, if swap is not enough, the system should abort the procedure before starting, or fail gracefully. But the latter I know that not always happens.

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Another "bad thing" is that on Gnome system settings there is not "Suspend" option into power-management just "Hibernate" and "Shutdown"!

The options disapears if the machine is blacklisted. Ie, if the system thinks that the procedure will not succeed.

Carlos, is this 'blacklist' dynamic or set at installation? Also, where can one inspect status/config? Thx! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

13:34

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:12:30 +0200 (CEST)

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The options disapears if the machine is blacklisted. Ie, if the system thinks that the procedure will not succeed.

Carlos, is this 'blacklist' dynamic or set at installation? Also, where can one inspect status/config?

Good question. I have not seen the list, but you can query if your machine is included, though. Like this: Telcontar:~ # s2ram --test --identify Machine unknown This machine can be identified by: sys_vendor = "MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD" sys_product = "MS-7516" sys_version = "1.0" bios_version = "V1.5" Telcontar:~ # Mine is not listed. XFCE allows to suspend and hibernate (suspend crashes, IIRC). I would like to know how to add/remove locally my machine. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6Y80ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VIWwCcD3DsKVk6mg5ANZo1Wzjok1vN rrQAnjQJ/gTw1LB5pTdism1fCWhdQF11 =98jf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

13:20

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/08/2013 07:12, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On Wednesday, 2013-07-31 at 22:08 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

It should be enabled by default. And, if swap is not enough, the system should abort the procedure before starting, or fail gracefully. But the latter I know that not always happens.

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Another "bad thing" is that on Gnome system settings there is not "Suspend" option into power-management just "Hibernate" and "Shutdown"!

The options disapears if the machine is blacklisted. Ie, if the system thinks that the procedure will not succeed.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

How can I verify if machine has been blacklisted? - -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH6YIcACgkQi4zJuA3lyFdrxQCfWhWn5t4Z0cIp9XG228D2PBOm DJcAoIKg4+T4eQu8qP4QOC55CmDP4xrU =466H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

13:35

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 10:20 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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How can I verify if machine has been blacklisted?

Besides the command I have just written, there is a wiki page at opensuse.org that might have more details I have forgotten. Or a link to upstream suspend utils. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6ZDwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X8WQCcD/YtpP8V+bq5dR7lw5tbm1dO u2sAniDdr1C30S/DTEHYUIOnlnWnA5CN =/Nki -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

13:48

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/08/2013 10:35, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 10:20 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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How can I verify if machine has been blacklisted?

Besides the command I have just written, there is a wiki page at opensuse.org that might have more details I have forgotten. Or a link to upstream suspend utils.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

Then why the option suspend is present for KDE? Are desktop environments behaving differently in this case? Cheers, - -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH6ZyMACgkQi4zJuA3lyFeg9ACdHeu8mIxyej58uGYMEucjbv6e T84AoIMLddZyRUuZ4XWflrzKwFPR5Vo2 =VFNh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

2 Aug 2 Aug

01:10

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 10:48 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Then why the option suspend is present for KDE?

Why do I have the option menu to hibernate/suspend, if my machine is not listed? Well, it is not blacklisted either. And the desktops may have their own methods to determine if suspend/hibernation is possible or not. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH7Bx0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UbLACfd7IHpe3tbgHRzLcNIcN1bXGV ruUAn11fqJqra2AirKTBptqbvovZGtQ6 =1RuD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

12:28

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 01/08/2013 22:10, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 10:48 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Then why the option suspend is present for KDE?

Why do I have the option menu to hibernate/suspend, if my machine is not listed? Well, it is not blacklisted either. And the desktops may have their own methods to determine if suspend/hibernation is possible or not.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

I think is just a lack into Gnome setting instead! I have on it only hibernate or shutdown, probably who wrote the code forgotten to include suspend as well. Cheers, - -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH7peIACgkQi4zJuA3lyFdJYwCfbwZ/387aIwX2t/lCWAACSNQ0 h5wAnRhak3tSrbr8PDfHgwGv9yMoYpWh =a5UT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

17:59

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2013-08-02 at 09:28 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think is just a lack into Gnome setting instead!

I have on it only hibernate or shutdown, probably who wrote the code forgotten to include suspend as well.

No, the menu or button entry exists always, but is disabled or removed on some. I have seen it appear or disapear in my machine with different versions of openSUSE. Other people had it, but not me. Or the other way round. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH7830ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VXNgCdFHAk4FIEZMzPwQulOr30nBWF Et0AnjsNdqEyYqsIX8tD/FbyH1hsZ0hk =L2R+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

18:08

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 02/08/2013 14:59, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On Friday, 2013-08-02 at 09:28 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think is just a lack into Gnome setting instead!

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I have on it only hibernate or shutdown, probably who wrote the code forgotten to include suspend as well.

No, the menu or button entry exists always, but is disabled or removed on some. I have seen it appear or disapear in my machine with different versions of openSUSE. Other people had it, but not me. Or the other way round.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

That's a strange testimonial since on the top right corner of Gnome (3.6.2) I see the three options (Suspend Hibernate Shutdown) then definitely something has gone out of control. Cheers, - -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.4-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH79Y8ACgkQi4zJuA3lyFfDXgCgoX8jyFM0VK2v12S4s99DdPJG PF0AoKfwUgg0CepZe36qTqc4LKTcmswK =0wEN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

3 Aug 3 Aug

16:44

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Il 02/08/2013 15:08, Marco Calistri ha scritto:

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Il 02/08/2013 14:59, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:

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On Friday, 2013-08-02 at 09:28 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think is just a lack into Gnome setting instead!

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I have on it only hibernate or shutdown, probably who wrote the code forgotten to include suspend as well.

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No, the menu or button entry exists always, but is disabled or removed on some. I have seen it appear or disapear in my machine with different versions of openSUSE. Other people had it, but not me. Or the other way round.

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-- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

That's a strange testimonial since on the top right corner of Gnome (3.6.2) I see the three options (Suspend Hibernate Shutdown) then definitely something has gone out of control.

Cheers,

Found it! : http://askubuntu.com/a/203788 Cheers, - -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core? i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH9M30ACgkQi4zJuA3lyFe2NACeM7IcjPFhct3BOKydQJhk7qqA E9YAn2NHjZ8tE5q726MTFwyQXTB3SPxf =zYYu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

1 Aug 1 Aug

01:38

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:00:38 -0700 John Andersen wrote:

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On 7/31/2013 5:53 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G.

marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1

In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM.

Cheers,

Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

My system's 500GB drive has 3 primary partitions: sda1: swap sda2: OS 'a' / sda3: OS 'a' /home plus an extended w/ 3 logical partitions: sda5: OS 'b' / sda6: OS 'b' /home sda7 OS 'a' and 'b' /data (shared) Re-sizing the primary partitions was a breeze using gparted while booted into OS 'b'. I 'shaved' 1 GB each off of sda2 and sda3, retaining the upper boundary of sda3 and moving the two 'up' in the process. I then reassigned the contiguous unused space below sda2 to swap (sda1.) It is now 4.1GB vs. system RAM at 4GB. Booting the installation DVD in rescue mode to reinstall grub2 took another few minutes. All in all, I'd say this was a very worthwhile exercise if only because the question is now moot: swap is now physically larger than the system's RAM. As I wrote previously, before increasing the swap partition's size, my "hibernate" (suspend to disk) experiment failed, whereas afterward, it succeeded. I'm not suggesting that there is a direct correlation -- the evidence, itself, seems to be suggesting this ... albeit after only one before/after test. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

02:31

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 31/07/2013 22:38, Carl Hartung ha scritto:

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:00:38 -0700 John Andersen wrote:

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On 7/31/2013 5:53 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Il 30/07/2013 17:53, Marco Vittorini Orgeas ha scritto:

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 04:58:56 PM Marco Calistri wrote:

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I think it is not matter of swap because I think I have 4G dedicated to this task, at least.

How many people on this ML running my hardware/DE are facing some issues as me for hibernate?

If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

Chhers,

1) Be sure(!) your swap partition size is bigger than your available RAM.

2) Try to hibernate and re-start.

Dunno why but I configured my swap to 3G while my phisical RAM is 4G.

marco@linux-turion64:~> sudo /usr/sbin/swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sda7 partition 3147772 0 -1

In any case I am not totally convinced about the rule to set swap to be bigger than RAM.

Cheers,

Well as someone pointed out upthread, it will attempt compression on what it writes to swap.

My system's 500GB drive has 3 primary partitions:

sda1: swap sda2: OS 'a' / sda3: OS 'a' /home

plus an extended w/ 3 logical partitions:

sda5: OS 'b' / sda6: OS 'b' /home sda7 OS 'a' and 'b' /data (shared)

Re-sizing the primary partitions was a breeze using gparted while booted into OS 'b'. I 'shaved' 1 GB each off of sda2 and sda3, retaining the upper boundary of sda3 and moving the two 'up' in the process. I then reassigned the contiguous unused space below sda2 to swap (sda1.) It is now 4.1GB vs. system RAM at 4GB. Booting the installation DVD in rescue mode to reinstall grub2 took another few minutes.

All in all, I'd say this was a very worthwhile exercise if only because the question is now moot: swap is now physically larger than the system's RAM.

As I wrote previously, before increasing the swap partition's size, my "hibernate" (suspend to disk) experiment failed, whereas afterward, it succeeded. I'm not suggesting that there is a direct correlation -- the evidence, itself, seems to be suggesting this ... albeit after only one before/after test.

regards,

Carl

Carl, May be you have convinced me. :-) I don't understand why you needed to reinstall grub2 though. I will try it booting with gparted DVD and I will consider to multiply RAM per 1.5 factor then set swap to 6.144G Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

03:06

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:31:50 -0300 Marco Calistri wrote:

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Carl,

May be you have convinced me. :-)

I don't understand why you needed to reinstall grub2 though.

I will try it booting with gparted DVD and I will consider to multiply RAM per 1.5 factor then set swap to 6.144G

Cheers,

I won't take the credit for this, Marco. Thanks anyway, and good luck! :-) I read somewhere while researching this exercise that reinstalling grub2 might be necessary after resizing and moving '/' (sda2 in this case) so that's what I did. YMMV, of course. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Marco Calistri

03:33

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

Il 01/08/2013 00:06, Carl Hartung ha scritto:

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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:31:50 -0300 Marco Calistri wrote:

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Carl,

May be you have convinced me. :-)

I don't understand why you needed to reinstall grub2 though.

I will try it booting with gparted DVD and I will consider to multiply RAM per 1.5 factor then set swap to 6.144G

Cheers,

I won't take the credit for this, Marco. Thanks anyway, and good luck! :-)

I read somewhere while researching this exercise that reinstalling grub2 might be necessary after resizing and moving '/' (sda2 in this case) so that's what I did. YMMV, of course.

regards,

Carl

Ok Carl, Good news!: I increased swap from 3 to 6G and now hibernate works but it takes several minutes to take effect; dunno if it can be adjusted by proper settings in /etc/suspend.conf. I also think that due the fact I installed not standard plymouth splash I had to disable it in /etc/suspend.conf. Now I see S2disk Snapshotting system when hibernate starts then system shutdown; when I click on power button system reboot once again I see S2disk Snapshotting on the screen it takes again several minutes without any signals of life, then finally system restart exactly from the point I left. This is my current /etc/suspend.conf setting, probably by adjusting this file I can gain more speed for hibernate process: marco@linux-turion64:~> cat /etc/suspend.conf ############################################################################# ## ## note: ## using pm-utils or powersaved, this file (/etc/suspend.conf) only serves as ## a template, image_size and resume_device are filled in dynamically ## and the generated /var/lib/s2disk.conf is used to suspend. ## _If_ you enter stuff here, it will be copied to that file unchanged, ## but this might skip some features and sanity checks. ## ############################################################################# ## ## your snapshot device. You should not need to change this. # snapshot device = /dev/snapshot # ## enter your swap device here. Read the warning on pm-utils above, please! #resume device = # ## image size will also be filled in by pm-utils #image size = 350000000 # #suspend loglevel = 2 #max loglevel = # ## compute checksum will slow down suspend and resume. ## Debugging option, default n #compute checksum = y # ## compression will often speed up suspend and resume (default y) #compress = n # ## encryption support is rather basic right now - e.g. USB keyboards will not ## work to enter the key in the standard initrd, also beware of ## non-US keyboard layouts. Only use this if you know what you are doing. #encrypt = y # ## RSA key file that is used for encryption #RSA key file = /etc/suspend.key # ## start writing out the image early, before buffers are full. ## will most of the time speed up overall writing time (default y) #early writeout = n # ## use splash picture? (default y) splash = n # ## shutdown method: ## platform - go through ACPI BIOS to power off the machine (default on ## machines that support it) ## shutdown - just power off like after a shutdown ## reboot - reboot instead of powering off. For debugging only. #shutdown method = platform shutdown method = shutdown # ## resume offset: for use with swapfiles, use "swap-offset" to find out. #resume offset = 12345 # ## pause after resume for n seconds, so that the timing information can ## actually be read (default 0 => don't pause) #resume pause = 2 # ## use threads for suspend? (default n) ## this hugely speeds up encryption and also compression on mulitcore machines threads = y What I really would like to have is the Suspend option added into power-management settings for Gnome 3.6.2, I think it is easy to add it as it is present for KDE. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri (amdturion) opensuse 12.3 (Dartmouth) 64 bit - Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop Gnome 3.6.2 Intel® Core™ i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4 - Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10:19

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 00:33 -0300, Marco Calistri wrote:

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Good news!: I increased swap from 3 to 6G and now hibernate works but it takes several minutes to take effect; dunno if it can be adjusted by proper settings in /etc/suspend.conf.

Doubtful.

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## use splash picture? (default y) splash = n

Good. This should allow you to see the progress of the procedure.

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## this hugely speeds up encryption and also compression on mulitcore machines threads = y

This, if it works, makes the process faster.

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What I really would like to have is the Suspend option added into power-management settings for Gnome 3.6.2, I think it is easy to add it as it is present for KDE.

KDE has it? The Gnome doesn't because it thinks it does not work. If s2ram works, raise a bug in bugzilla. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6NhwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W0RACfbPv/7+uKObKVXn0WcdiLyVLq 92oAnRX+sHAPnUp3v2vNqxw8hal8LqjY =NDpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

30 Jul 30 Jul

22:13

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

I have no issues with hibernate on my laptop. Greg -- Greg Freemyer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

John Andersen

31 Jul 31 Jul

00:46

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On 7/30/2013 3:13 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

I have no issues with hibernate on my laptop.

Greg -- Greg Freemyer

I do. It sets the screen black, but flashing every second or two, lights up the hard drive at the same interval (clearly not a write to swap), and never actually shuts down. The problem: My memory was increased AFTER I set up the partition for swap, so I have more actual ram than I have swap space, and its just not worth it for me to change that. Suspend (sleep) works perfectly, which is what I do a lot. Its faster than even hibernate, and the laptop will last days on its battery in suspend mode. Somewhere I read there was an option to hibernate to another disk partition (not swap), but I haven't perused it. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

01:58

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:46:34 -0700 John Andersen wrote:

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On 7/30/2013 3:13 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:

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If I am alone I would begin to worry, but if I am "one of many" then I hope devs. team will resolve the problem by next software updates.

I have no issues with hibernate on my laptop.

Greg -- Greg Freemyer

I do. It sets the screen black, but flashing every second or two, lights up the hard drive at the same interval (clearly not a write to swap), and never actually shuts down.

The problem: My memory was increased AFTER I set up the partition for swap, so I have more actual ram than I have swap space, and its just not worth it for me to change that.

Suspend (sleep) works perfectly, which is what I do a lot. Its faster than even hibernate, and the laptop will last days on its battery in suspend mode.

Somewhere I read there was an option to hibernate to another disk partition (not swap), but I haven't perused it.

I've been following this thread with interest since I'm a relative hibernate/suspend 'newbie'. Several weeks ago, I returned home and re-docked my laptop to the desktop keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc. Nearly two hours later, I'm scratching my head after seeing the monitor's OSD indicate some setting was just dropped without my initiative to 60%. I start opening up and drilling through control center dialogues trying to figure out what was happening and, then, suddenly, the entire desktop froze and went black, a bright blue progress bar opened up and 'zipped' like lightning across the monitor, left to right. Then the laptop shut off. It happened so fast that I really needed about a minute to regain my bearings and deduce what must have happened. I checked beside my desk and, sure enough, the AC charger/adapter was plugged into the laptop but not into the outlet. I plugged it in, waited for half an hour as the battery charged, then I powered it on -- full of apprehension. The boot process was markedly different and, after entering my password, my desktop reappeared with everything exactly as it was before the system shut down. This system has 4 GB RAM but only a 2 GB swap partition. Was this just dumb luck? Moreover, after reading here about the sensible approach being ... for suspend to disk, at least ("hibernate") ... providing a swap partition at least equal to the available RAM (converted into 1,024 x 1,024 x 1,024 GB, btw) I just re-sized my / and /home partitions and reinstalled grub2 ... this all went painlessly, fortunately ... so I guess I'm ready to test this "hibernate" thing again. I'll report back in a little bit what happens. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

02:11

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:58:41 -0400 Carl Hartung wrote:

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Moreover, after reading here about the sensible approach being ... for suspend to disk, at least ("hibernate") ... providing a swap partition at least equal to the available RAM (converted into 1,024 x 1,024 x 1,024 GB, btw) I just re-sized my / and /home partitions and reinstalled grub2 ... this all went painlessly, fortunately ... so I guess I'm ready to test this "hibernate" thing again. I'll report back in a little bit what happens.

regards,

Carl

Okay, I can now report that "hibernate" is working properly on this fully updated openSUSE 12.3 64-bit system running KDE 4.10.5 "release 1" What a treat! It even reconnected to two servers that I'm monitoring via ssh running 'top' regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

John Andersen

02:22

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

And all this with a swap smaller than main memory? Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:58:41 -0400 Carl Hartung wrote:

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Moreover, after reading here about the sensible approach being ... for suspend to disk, at least ("hibernate") ... providing a swap partition at least equal to the available RAM (converted into 1,024 x 1,024 x 1,024 GB, btw) I just re-sized my / and /home partitions and reinstalled grub2 ... this all went painlessly, fortunately ... so I guess I'm ready to test this "hibernate" thing again. I'll report back in a little bit what happens.

regards,

Carl

Okay, I can now report that "hibernate" is working properly on this fully updated openSUSE 12.3 64-bit system running KDE 4.10.5 "release 1"

What a treat! It even reconnected to two servers that I'm monitoring via ssh running 'top'

regards,

Carl

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Carl Hartung

02:39

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:22:23 -0700 John Andersen wrote:

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And all this with a swap smaller than main memory?

I inadvertently omitted having increased the swap partition to 4.1 GB just before this test. That was why I re-sized / and /home. I apologize for the oversight. Another thing I neglected to mention was I tested "hibernate" without re-sizing anything after reading this thread ... with the system still at 4 GB RAM and 2 GB swap ... and it seems to have gone into "sleep" mode, instead. It went through motions that were similar to "hibernate" but ultimately presented me with a graphical login prompt instead of powering off. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rajko

12:18

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:58:41 -0400 Carl Hartung wrote:

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This system has 4 GB RAM but only a 2 GB swap partition. Was this just dumb luck?

Yes and no. Hibernate will compress memory image before storing it to the swap, so depending on what was in the memory and how good is compression ratio it may, or may not fit to available disk space. Some file types, and gaps with no valid content, is possible to compress better then memory with a lot of valid content that is already encrypted, or has files that have poor compression ratio. Obviously, it works fine for majority of people, as we can't see massive complains, but taking how cheap is disk space, having large swap as in 1.5xRAM_size is a safe bet. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

1 Aug 1 Aug

10:24

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2013-07-30 at 21:58 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:

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froze and went black, a bright blue progress bar opened up and 'zipped' like lightning across the monitor, left to right. Then the laptop shut off.

If it was so fast, it was probably suspend to ram, in which case swap is not used. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6N28ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WvWwCfd5oEqKeYP+q/DWmb338IrVZN VeMAnAsCWp4wZegCxIHymWmLXAZuP0UE =4DwK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carl Hartung

10:41

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:24:47 +0200 (CEST) Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Tuesday, 2013-07-30 at 21:58 -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:

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froze and went black, a bright blue progress bar opened up and 'zipped' like lightning across the monitor, left to right. Then the laptop shut off.

If it was so fast, it was probably suspend to ram, in which case swap is not used.

Maybe "like lightning" was a bit exaggerated. :-) It appeared on the laptop display, which is usually inactive, and not the external monitor. More likely, I only noticed the progress bar at the last moment before "off." It wouldn't suspend to ram on a critically low battery, anyway, and the system was definitely, physically turned fully "off." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Rajko

13:01

New subject: [opensuse] 12.3 (64bit) Hibernate problem

On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:41:14 -0400 Carl Hartung wrote:

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Maybe "like lightning" was a bit exaggerated. :-) It appeared on the laptop display, which is usually inactive, and not the external monitor. More likely, I only noticed the progress bar at the last moment before "off." It wouldn't suspend to ram on a critically low battery, anyway, and the system was definitely, physically turned fully "off."

Shutdown is pretty fast this days, and with SSD storing RAM should be fast enough to appear as lightning fast. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

13:41

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2013-08-01 at 08:01 -0500, Rajko wrote:

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:41:14 -0400 Carl Hartung <> wrote:

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Maybe "like lightning" was a bit exaggerated. :-) It appeared on the laptop display, which is usually inactive, and not the external monitor. More likely, I only noticed the progress bar at the last moment before "off." It wouldn't suspend to ram on a critically low battery, anyway, and the system was definitely, physically turned fully "off."

Shutdown is pretty fast this days, and with SSD storing RAM should be fast enough to appear as lightning fast.

My machine takes about a minute to hibernate. I have 8 GiB of RAM, plus 1.6 GB of swap in use (and 2.6 GiB of free ram, plus 2.2 of cache). So there is a lot to write to disk. It takes even longer to boot, though, so I prefer hibernation, saves time. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlH6ZaYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UdeACbBQmjTN8nTvkgI7qWVSwwZ4KV o/oAoJPWuhsLSxfFCawDqguFT4npMDx2 =/91s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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