[opensuse] Major problem ! Delta iso doesn't work !
hi all ! I cannot upgrade to 10.3alpha4 because delta ISO doesn't work ! MD5Sums are OK. I did this: tux@opensuse:/F/OSes> makedeltaiso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3-DVD-i386.iso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3_Alpha4-DVD-i386.delta.iso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha4-DVD-i386.iso but the error is: openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3-DVD-i386.iso: 2897 rpms primary volume descriptor missing -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 17 May 2007 19:35:42 Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I cannot upgrade to 10.3alpha4 because delta ISO doesn't work !
MD5Sums are OK.
I did this:
tux@opensuse:/F/OSes> makedeltaiso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3-DVD-i386.iso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3_Alpha4-DVD-i386.delta.iso openSUSE-10.3-Alpha4-DVD-i386.iso
but the error is: openSUSE-10.3-Alpha3-DVD-i386.iso: 2897 rpms primary volume descriptor missing
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
You must use applydeltaiso -- Avec les compliments de Carlos Romero-Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
Can you please stay away from bugzilla?
Can you please read the instructions of the damn program?
Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems?
Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
Goddamn it
Marcio
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Druid
On 5/17/07, Alexey Eremenko
You must use applydeltaiso
Thanks ! This seems to work !
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If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
I *will* step away from keyboard, when GUIs will be able to do *more* functions than command-line. Windows is already there, and Linux is to follow. -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
Can you please stay away from bugzilla?
Can you please read the instructions of the damn program?
Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems?
Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
On 5/17/07, Alexey Eremenko
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
I *will* step away from keyboard, when GUIs will be able to do *more* functions than command-line. Windows is already there, and Linux is to follow.
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
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On Thursday 17 May 2007 13:26, Druid wrote:
Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656 uh, well, its a human error... a mistake...
... I've made lots of them. In fact, I've made zillions of them. Alexey is an excited participant who provides a value add, just as you do. He placed this note of humility in his bugzilla id 275656: "Oops. I needed to use "applydeltaiso" instead. Everything is correct. Sorry." Alexey has some great ideas, and his personal preferences just "might" be preferences that other users would also find useful. When you're brainstorming a distro and working it into the fine art you hope it will be there are no wrong answers and there is no such thing as wasted time... every input should be considered--- keep the good, through out the bad, move on. Alexey is helping you guys immensely... seems to me. -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/17/07, M Harris
On Thursday 17 May 2007 13:26, Druid wrote:
Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656 uh, well, its a human error... a mistake...
... I've made lots of them. In fact, I've made zillions of them.
Alexey is an excited participant who provides a value add, just as you do. He placed this note of humility in his bugzilla id 275656:
"Oops. I needed to use "applydeltaiso" instead. Everything is correct. Sorry."
Alexey has some great ideas, and his personal preferences just "might" be preferences that other users would also find useful. When you're brainstorming a distro and working it into the fine art you hope it will be there are no wrong answers and there is no such thing as wasted time... every input should be considered--- keep the good, through out the bad, move on. Alexey is helping you guys immensely... seems to me.
Thanks M Harris ! It's nice to hear that ! -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 17 May 2007 20:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
I *will* step away from keyboard, when GUIs will be able to do *more* functions than command-line. Windows is already there, and Linux is to follow.
Then go back to windows. If it is that easy, you shouldn't have any problems. But most of the things you complain about are nothing more than YOUR personal preference. If you don't like what you have either create your own distro, or quit complaining. Either way, I'll never know. <PLONK> -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 8:33pm up 3 days 3:53, 4 users, load average: 2.43, 2.34, 2.28 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 17 May 2007, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
I *will* step away from keyboard, when GUIs will be able to do *more* functions than command-line. Windows is already there, and Linux is to follow.
-- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov"
There is nothing at all wrong with the CLI it is a far better tool than ANY windBloZe gui will ever be .. Having said that ... :-) Druid you gotta bad ass attitude boy coolit .. people accuse ME of biting yea well .. Nuff said /EOF Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
I *will* step away from keyboard, when GUIs will be able to do *more* functions than command-line. Windows is already there,so
That's because the MS Commandline is so horribly feeble.
and Linux is to follow.
Graphical interfaces are more powerful when doing graphical things... and hardly ever in any other capacity. Command lines are more powerful when doing non-graphical things. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:10:41PM -0300, Druid wrote:
Wtf is this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=275656
Can you please stay away from bugzilla? Can you please read the instructions of the damn program? Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems? Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
Folks, please calm down a bit. Yes, it was a stupid mistake, but there's no need to be rude. Everybody makes mistakes. Cheers, Michael. -- Michael Schroeder mls@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF Markus Rex, HRB 16746 AG Nuernberg main(_){while(_=~getchar())putchar(~_-1/(~(_|32)/13*2-11)*13);} -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu 17 May 07 13:10, Druid wrote incoherently:
Can you please stay away from bugzilla? Can you please read the instructions of the damn program? Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems? Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
Can you please STFU?
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
As has been asked of you, and we *KNOW* you're incompetent.
Goddamn it
Very well...I damn you Druid, you moronic it. -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB2, kiddo, go find a doctor to help you with this problem of lack of attention.
Thanks
Marcio
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druid
On 5/18/07, JB2
On Thu 17 May 07 13:10, Druid wrote incoherently:
Can you please stay away from bugzilla? Can you please read the instructions of the damn program? Can you please stop sending scandal emails about your major problems? Can you please stop being annoying and wasting people's time?
Can you please STFU?
If you are incompetent, just step away from the keyboard...
As has been asked of you, and we *KNOW* you're incompetent.
Goddamn it
Very well...I damn you Druid, you moronic it.
-- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Friday 18 May 2007, Druid wrote:
JB2, kiddo, go find a doctor to help you with this problem of lack of attention.
Thanks
Marcio --- druid
Druid i dont know who the hell you are boy and i aint bothered either if push comes to shove but one thing is for sure you got one big time plonker attitude , Quit with the attitude and top posting you look like you may just have a brain the use it act you age not your shoe size Pete -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Druid i dont know who the hell you are boy and i aint bothered either if push comes to shove but one thing is for sure you got one big time plonker attitude , Quit with the attitude and top posting you look like you may just have a brain the use it act you age not your shoe size
Pete, if you dont have anything to post about the topic of the thread, dont post. Go do something else. If you have something to say about the topic, say it. If not, I dont care what you think about what I write, how I write or whatever, so dont even bother writing such things... If you dont have nothing to add to the topic, just shut up. Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 18 May 2007, Druid wrote:
Druid i dont know who the hell you are boy and i aint bothered either if push comes to shove but one thing is for sure you got one big time plonker attitude , Quit with the attitude and top posting you look like you may just have a brain the use it act you age not your shoe size
Pete, if you dont have anything to post about the topic of the thread, dont post. Go do something else. If you have something to say about the topic, say it. If not, I dont care what you think about what I write, how I write or whatever, so dont even bother writing such things...
If you dont have nothing to add to the topic, just shut up.
Marcio --- druid
Ho Ho Ho you is askin for it you is .. -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Druid wrote:
Ho Ho Ho you is askin for it you is ..
oh yeah? gimme then, monkey boy
and the shut up
Marcio --- druid
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 18 May 2007 14:51, Druid wrote:
Druid i dont know who the hell you are boy and i aint bothered either if push comes to shove but one thing is for sure you got one big time plonker attitude , Quit with the attitude and top posting you look like you may just have a brain the use it act you age not your shoe size
Pete, if you dont have anything to post about the topic of the thread, dont post. Go do something else. If you have something to say about the topic, say it. If not, I dont care what you think about what I write, how I write or whatever, so dont even bother writing such things...
If you dont have nothing to add to the topic, just shut up.
Marcio --- druid
dude, he is talking about top posting which gets very annoying when trying to follow a thread! ever try to read a thread when some people top post and others post correctly at the bottom?? impossible to follow. - -- powered by OPENSuSE 10.2 athlon i386 GNU/Linux http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com 2:44pm up 1:22, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.28, 0.27 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGT0YolUTSIL6z5CARApZNAJwN14Ly0/haJuUREHtn4qugvsBFpACgiypP YNceyPi3Ply530qXCr2e5WQ= =arlp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
dude, he is talking about top posting which gets very annoying when trying to follow a thread! ever try to read a thread when some people top post and others post correctly at the bottom?? impossible to follow.
If you dont have nothing to add TO THE TOPIC, just shut up. Marcio --- druid -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:49, Druid wrote:
dude, he is talking about top posting which gets very annoying when trying to follow a thread! ever try to read a thread when some people top post and others post correctly at the bottom?? impossible to follow.
If you dont have nothing to add TO THE TOPIC, just shut up.
Like you are? Gees, just how much does it take for you to realize that there is nothing you can say that means a thing. You run your mouth as if you were god's gift to SUSE. Guess what? You aren't. You haven't contributed a thing except noise. And with that you've joined a couple of others in the bit bucket. No need to answer. I'll never see it. -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 9:38pm up 5 days 4:58, 4 users, load average: 2.38, 2.37, 2.30 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Whats up with people and this list? touchy about this and touchy about that, it's a shame since this could be a good list which really wants to help regardless of top posting or any other posting at the end of the day we really want to inform and help other people here, or are we here only to be tight ass and snotty? Regards Per Mike wrote:
On Saturday 19 May 2007 20:49, Druid wrote:
dude, he is talking about top posting which gets very annoying when trying to follow a thread! ever try to read a thread when some people top post and others post correctly at the bottom?? impossible to follow.
If you dont have nothing to add TO THE TOPIC, just shut up.
Like you are? Gees, just how much does it take for you to realize that there is nothing you can say that means a thing. You run your mouth as if you were god's gift to SUSE. Guess what? You aren't. You haven't contributed a thing except noise.
And with that you've joined a couple of others in the bit bucket. No need to answer. I'll never see it.
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Ysgrifennodd Per Qvindesland:
Whats up with people and this list? touchy about this and touchy about that, it's a shame since this could be a good list which really wants to help regardless of top posting or any other posting at the end of the day we really want to inform and help other people here, or are we here only to be tight ass and snotty?
Regards Per
I'll second that: but this is a good list. At least, I've had huge amounts of help when I've got myself into a mess - usually because I've done something really stupid - but no-one has yet felt the need to point this out to me :) (Until now, I guess) On every list there are trolls and fan-boys, many with social skills in inverse proportion to their ambient anger levels. The best thing to do is to ignore them and just get on with life. That's my 2c-worth, anyway. Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On every list there are trolls and fan-boys, many with social skills in inverse proportion to their ambient anger levels. The best thing to do is to ignore them and just get on with life. That's my 2c-worth, anyway.
I think the best thing to do is to discuss about the thread's topic, instead of showing how merciful, intelligent, dumb, full of joy or angry with other answers people are. And not give people "a lesson". And not hijack the subject of the threads. And the topic of this thread is how alexey floods bugzilla with support questions that lots of time (all the time?) makes no sense and gives people working an extra task which is to control the alexey spams, and nobody does nothing about it. And alexey pretends people dont think its annoying, and it is friggin annoying. It is. Its not just me saying that. I hear that from lots of people. I am the only one SAYING THE TRUTH. Speaking what people think when they read those nonsense topics, they think of writing this, but then most of the time they find they have something better to do. Dont be silly to think its just me, because its not. And nobody discusses about the damn topic. Stick to the topic. Add some remark about the topic. Get angry on the topic. Give a suggestion ABOUT THE TOPIC. If you can, of course. Get real, you people... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat 19 May 07 15:24, Druid wrote:
On every list there are trolls and fan-boys, many with social skills in inverse proportion to their ambient anger levels. The best thing to do is to ignore them and just get on with life. That's my 2c-worth, anyway.
I think
When are you going to prove that? -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB2 wrote:
On Sat 19 May 07 15:24, Druid wrote:
On every list there are trolls and fan-boys, many with social skills in inverse proportion to their ambient anger levels. The best thing to do is to ignore them and just get on with life. That's my 2c-worth, anyway.
I think
When are you going to prove that?
Could you stop making personal attacks, please. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Peter Bradley wrote:
Ysgrifennodd Per Qvindesland:
Whats up with people and this list? touchy about this and touchy about that, it's a shame since this could be a good list which really wants
The overly sensitive are free to limit their own participation. Oh well, their problem, not ours. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat 19 May 07 13:49, Druid, in one of his tantrums, wrote:
If you dont have nothing to add TO THE TOPIC, just shut up.
You probably beat your fists on the floor and stomp and kick your feet when you're having those little tantrums. You must have bribed your baby-sitter to not tell your mommy or daddy about the tantrums too. Now, go away little boy, you bother me. -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB2,
You never ever comment about anything on topic. Your emails are a
waste of electricity, they dont contribute to absolutely nothing but
heating the planet. I know you have a problem with me, and wants to
win the "word game", and you want attention. I suggest you to go to
some aol chat and fulfill all that love you need. I dont care about
you, your remarks about me dont make me not even slightly bothered
with you, they sometimes are funny, but as my interest is only about
suse, I must say your remarks are also uninteresting and offtopic to
the list. So dont continue. You are wasting everybody's time,
including yours.
In fact by the lack of contents in any of your emails I ahve ever
seen, you should be removed from the list.
On 5/19/07, JB2
On Sat 19 May 07 13:49, Druid, in one of his tantrums, wrote:
If you dont have nothing to add TO THE TOPIC, just shut up.
You probably beat your fists on the floor and stomp and kick your feet when you're having those little tantrums. You must have bribed your baby-sitter to not tell your mommy or daddy about the tantrums too.
Now, go away little boy, you bother me.
-- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On 5/19/07, JB2
On Sat 19 May 07 13:49, Druid, in one of his tantrums, wrote:
In fact, its my fault to feed the troll. From now on you'll stay out of my loop, so you dont waste my time, and others time with me replying to your non sense kthxbye Marcio --- druid PS: You are too macho in the internet. Must be fun to have virtual balls... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey, Op Thursday 17 May 2007 19:35:42 schreef Alexey Eremenko:
I cannot upgrade to 10.3alpha4 because delta ISO doesn't work !
this is not a major problem at all. So please adjust your subject next time, for example no exclamation marks and not "Major problem". A major problem is for example a harddisk crash without having a recent backup. In your case it is just playing with a new version, hence your problem is just very very minor. BTW: a better list for alpha releases or actually the right ML is opensuse-factory at opensuse dot org. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu May 17 2007, Richard Bos scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
Alexey,
Op Thursday 17 May 2007 19:35:42 schreef Alexey Eremenko:
I cannot upgrade to 10.3alpha4 because delta ISO doesn't work !
this is not a major problem at all. So please adjust your subject next time, for example no exclamation marks and not "Major problem". A major problem is for example a harddisk crash without having a recent backup.
That isn't just a major problem, it's nearly grounds for suicide, or murder depending on who is nearby when it happens! An exclamation point is the least of your worries in that event.When we had one last Windows user and the Sirchan worm hit, the version w/ the nasty payload that wiped out everything that this one guy had done for the past two weeks. He's a writer.... w/ a deadline.... guess who got stuck trying to rebuild or recapture his stuff... Just so you get my drift about the choice between suicide or "assisted" suicide. ( Sounds of Ak47 taken off safety and ready to shoot !! No need to aim, if you're around, it'll find you. )
In your case it is just playing with a new version, hence your problem is just very very minor. BTW: a better list for alpha releases or actually the right ML is opensuse-factory at opensuse dot org.
Thank you for that, perhaps the reasoned answer to someone who seems stuck or lost or just needs to figure out how to use something in the alpha - beta versions is to point them to the lists where I expect they will get more aide than here. -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Aaron Kulkis -
Alexey Eremenko -
Carlos Romero-Martin -
Druid -
G T Smith -
JB2 -
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M Harris -
Michael Schroeder -
Mike -
Per Qvindesland -
Peter Bradley -
peter nikolic -
Richard Bos -
Russell Jones -
steve reilly