* Hugo Garcia [08-14-08 15:03]:

Actually... I cant it be OFF by default!!!!

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Hugo Garcia wrote:

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please give off an easy way of NOT having to deal with it.

answering yourself is a bad sign... and top-posting too http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette#Quoting there were many extended conversations and ranting about Beagle and methods of removing and/or disabling about the time of 10.3's issue. A search of the archives on opensuse.org will provide you with more information that you need/want. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Jessen" To: Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Beagle sucks Hugo Garcia wrote:

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please give off an easy way of NOT having to deal with it.

Just don't install it.

Even with hand-crafted autoyast.xml that tries not to even install any gui, I still get various beagle things pulled in as a dependancies from somewhere. I have to run zypper rm '*beag*' once after every install. I wonder if any package management system has the concept of "recommend" instead of just "requires"? Clearly beagle isn't actually required, but there is probably just no way to express it's actual relationships in rpm terms. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:06 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

Now, if you still want a clean kill of the dreaded dog in one shot, you will need the following modified weapon:

rpm -e $(rpm -qa | grep beagle | sed -e '/^lib/d') $(rpm -qa | grep kerry) && rm -r ~/.beagle

Why are suse developers so stubborn on this beagle thing? Why do we have to fight so hard to get rid of it, and other things just go away even when we want them? Is it Miguel de Icaza demanding a role for Mono in spite of almost universal rejection? -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Kevin Dupuy wrote:

On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 15:56 -0700, John Andersen wrote:

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Why are suse developers so stubborn on this beagle thing? Why do we have to fight so hard to get rid of it, and other things just go away even when we want them?

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01837.html

We've been through this. I don't want another thread where the entire content value of the thread is personal attacks and no real consensus is made.

Do you seriously believe it would make one iota of difference if a consensus was reached on this list? If so, you must have been absent the list for the last two years. -- ----------JSA--------- Someone stole my tag line, so now I have this rental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

"Charles philip Chan" writes:

Kevin Dupuy writes:

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We've been through this. I don't want another thread where the entire content value of the thread is personal attacks and no real consensus is made.

I agree with John. If SUSE really want an indexed search system, why not just use Tracker:

http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/

,which is a lot faster and resource friendly than the crap that Beagle is? After all, Tracker is a freedesktop.org standard.

Check the plugin support for both, beagle contains more. With openSUSE 11.0 beagle should be more resource friendly, where exactly do you still have problems? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126