[opensuse] Another one takes the plunge...
Hello list, I also took the plunge several days ago and installed openSUSE 11 with KDE 4.1 on my laptop. The laptop is an HP nc6320 with an Intel Centrino Duo chip. I took a couple of days to familiarize myself with the new system and overall I am impressed with the speed of OS11 and also KDE 4.1. However, there are also a couple of things that annoy me or just don't work. Please note that I have not analyzed these errors (except for one), but they are things an average user of a new system would probably not be able to solve on his/her own. Please see the following list of the things I have noticed. Great things: - KDE4 feels a lot faster than KDE3 - KDE4 looks great (which is subjective) - KDE4 has a more uniform look, which is good. Makes it look more professional - Fonts look very clear - Package management is fantastic and so much faster than OS 10.3. Things not working: - No sound in KDE 4, device HDA Intel does not respond (worked out of the box on 10.3/KDE 3.5.9). Sound does work in video, but KDE4 notifications do not play - nspluginviewer slows the system to a crawl on certain webpages and then crashes - KSSH does not work, when launching a connection, the window just disappears and that's it. No crash report or anything. No output if run from Konsole. - Installation hang on 3 occasions, on known good hardware, using a known good DVD (checksum and media check). - Knetworkmanager isn't. At my house, under OS10.3, I could find 10 – 12 wireless networks, which were in a neat list. Under OS11, I can find 2 weak signal networks, and not even my own. - Video does not play, only shows a blue screen but I do have sound (solved with help from the mailinglist) - Kontact/Kmail refreshing my Exchange IMAP folders slows the system to a crawl. In addition, there doesn't seem to be a straightforward way to add an Exchange calendar to Kontact. That's a bit of a miss, because (like it or loathe it) Exchange is the nr.1 groupware solution. - Can configure my fingerprint reader through Yast, but there is nowhere to configure using the fingerprint reader for logon - There's no easy way to browse an SMB/Windows network with the SuSEFirewall enabled I use this system at my place of work, mainly. Most of the environment here is Windows. Personally, I know how to work around most of the issues above, but for a novice user, this would not be possible. They would expect better integration with the Windows environment, probably. I have promised myself that I would not get involved in the whole KDE3/KDE4 debate, but I do have to say that while KDE 4.1 looks and feels great and will become even better in the future, I do feel it is not quite there yet. Some things could use some more maturing, such as the KDE PIM tools. Just my 2 cents about the migration. Feel free to respond, everyone! Regards, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 09:11:34 am Joop Beris wrote:
- Knetworkmanager isn't. At my house, under OS10.3, I could find 10 – 12 wireless networks, which were in a neat list. Under OS11, I can find 2 weak signal networks, and not even my own.
There is bug report about this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=416508 -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 August 2008 06:52:49 Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 09:11:34 am Joop Beris wrote:
- Knetworkmanager isn't. At my house, under OS10.3, I could find 10 – 12 wireless networks, which were in a neat list. Under OS11, I can find 2 weak signal networks, and not even my own.
There is bug report about this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=416508
Hello Rajko, Thanks for the link, I wasn't aware of this bug report yet. However, my post was written from the perspective of "Joe User". And in my experience, Joe User might (if you're lucky) read the help file supplied, but doesn't know what Bugzilla is, let alone check it out. Joe User would probably think "Hey, this Linux thing doesn't even see my wireless network. It's crap." Wireless networks have become standard, KNetworkmanager should work with them. Period. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation. By the way, as of this morning (since last update), KNetworkmanager doesn't do anything anymore. It doesn't see any networks, and even if I plug in my ethernet cable, it says it's not connected. If I specify my IP address manually, it works. It'll probably be fixed in the next update, but I think KNetworkmanager is a vital piece of the desktop, which should work. Same goes for system sounds, which do not play. I do have sounds with video though. </rant> Just my personal thoughts, Joop ------------------------------------------------------------ Dit bericht is gescand op virussen en andere gevaarlijke inhoud door MailScanner en lijkt schoon te zijn. Mailscanner door http://www.prosolit.nl Professional Solutions fot IT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joop Beris wrote:
On Thursday 14 August 2008 06:52:49 Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 09:11:34 am Joop Beris wrote:
- Knetworkmanager isn't. At my house, under OS10.3, I could find 10 – 12 wireless networks, which were in a neat list. Under OS11, I can find 2 weak signal networks, and not even my own.
There is bug report about this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=416508
Hello Rajko,
Thanks for the link, I wasn't aware of this bug report yet. However, my post was written from the perspective of "Joe User". And in my experience, Joe User might (if you're lucky) read the help file supplied, but doesn't know what Bugzilla is, let alone check it out. Joe User would probably think "Hey, this Linux thing doesn't even see my wireless network. It's crap."
Wireless networks have become standard, KNetworkmanager should work with them. Period. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation.
By the way, as of this morning (since last update), KNetworkmanager doesn't do anything anymore. It doesn't see any networks, and even if I plug in my ethernet cable, it says it's not connected. If I specify my IP address manually, it works. It'll probably be fixed in the next update, but I think KNetworkmanager is a vital piece of the desktop, which should work.
Same goes for system sounds, which do not play. I do have sounds with video though.
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Another thing I don't like about it is in order to connect to an access point, you have to save the connection, even if you're not likely to ever use that AP again. This means you then have to delete that connection. It would be nice if saving were an option, rather than compulsory. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 August 2008 06:15:52 am James Knott wrote:
Joop Beris wrote:
On Thursday 14 August 2008 06:52:49 Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 09:11:34 am Joop Beris wrote:
- Knetworkmanager isn't. At my house, under OS10.3, I could find 10 – 12 wireless networks, which were in a neat list. Under OS11, I can find 2 weak signal networks, and not even my own.
There is bug report about this. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=416508
Hello Rajko,
Thanks for the link, I wasn't aware of this bug report yet. However, my post was written from the perspective of "Joe User". ...
Hi Joop, I got that :-) What I can't find is another bug report that tells that the number is limited in context menu, but not in regular window. Well there is another of the same kind. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417335 Currently I don't have 11.0 on a laptop, it will be soon, but right now I can't check how Network Manager works.
Another thing I don't like about it is in order to connect to an access point, you have to save the connection, even if you're not likely to ever use that AP again. This means you then have to delete that connection. It would be nice if saving were an option, rather than compulsory.
Or, having configuration option x "Save connection details automatically" and if it is not selected you will have to save manually connection that you intend to use again. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, I sent out a notice that I opened a bug up for knetworkmanager not working on Opensuse 11.0 x86 32 bit systems today, and sent a notice to the list. But it never showed up on the list, I must have hit the reply button instead of reply all. That is what not getting enough sleep in the last few days will do. Here is a link to the bug, in case anyone wishes to add their vote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417335 Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I had similar problems with connecting to my home network when I first
started using Opensuse 11.0. I thought that Knetworkmanager was the
issue and almost opened a bug (i'm using the Intel 3945 WLAN chipset).
After some googling I stumbled upon something called the linuxwireless
project and compat-wireless rpms.
I quickly searched the packages.opensuse-community.org database and
found the compat-wireless rpms on the BS. I've been using those ever
since and my problems have completely disappeared. I can now connect
with no issues.
My two cents :)
-Anshul
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Mark Misulich
Hi, I sent out a notice that I opened a bug up for knetworkmanager not working on Opensuse 11.0 x86 32 bit systems today, and sent a notice to the list. But it never showed up on the list, I must have hit the reply button instead of reply all. That is what not getting enough sleep in the last few days will do. Here is a link to the bug, in case anyone wishes to add their vote:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=417335
Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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