[SLE] Tar!

irisinc＠gci.net

14 Feb 2000 14 Feb '00

08:30

Hi! The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me. I have used tar with other linux distributions and with Free BSD and the above command works. What gives with SuSE? Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant. I guess since this utility is so old and so common everyone who uses Unix\Linux is supposed to be born with all of the knowledge necessary to operate it. Anyway, if someone would be so kind as to inform me how to untar this file I would be gratefull. Thanks Rusty -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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metafakx＠yifan.net

7 Feb 7 Feb

04:45

* Rusty :

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The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me.

perhaps you meant f instead of h: tar xvf oss* also, you could have decompressed it with tar (with z).

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What gives with SuSE? Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant.

here are the keys you seek: tar --help | less info tar (david) -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

icarus＠guldennet.nl

14 Feb 14 Feb

12:56

Isn't anybody aware of the tar manpages? man tar gives you everything you need. Rogier david wrote:

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* Rusty :

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The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me.

perhaps you meant f instead of h:

tar xvf oss*

also, you could have decompressed it with tar (with z).

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What gives with SuSE? Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant.

here are the keys you seek:

tar --help | less info tar

(david)

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nagash＠ozemail.com.au

13:10

there is no man page for tar included in suse (its uniantained and old and out of date??). I think we've been through this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogier Maas" To: "david" Cc: "SuSE Linux" Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Tar!

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Isn't anybody aware of the tar manpages?

man tar

gives you everything you need.

Rogier

david wrote:

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* Rusty :

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The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me.

perhaps you meant f instead of h:

tar xvf oss*

also, you could have decompressed it with tar (with z).

...
What gives with SuSE? Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant.

here are the keys you seek:

tar --help | less info tar

(david)

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icarus＠guldennet.nl

13:19

You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't include it? Tar is never out of date. Rogier A Nourai wrote:

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there is no man page for tar included in suse (its uniantained and old and out of date??).

I think we've been through this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rogier Maas" To: "david" Cc: "SuSE Linux" Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Tar!

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Isn't anybody aware of the tar manpages?

man tar

gives you everything you need.

Rogier

david wrote:

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* Rusty :

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The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me.

perhaps you meant f instead of h:

tar xvf oss*

also, you could have decompressed it with tar (with z).

...
What gives with SuSE? Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant.

here are the keys you seek:

tar --help | less info tar

(david)

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Zajebancija＠seeunet.com

13:31

New subject: [SLE] linux as modem server

Hi all I have SuSe linux 6.3 and I have one simple question. Does anyone know hot to set up linux as a modem server which uses authorization from radius server? The modems are on the serial ports.If someone have any program that can help me, I would like him to send me that program. Thanks Kulla -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

agtiger＠grapevine.net

16:47

New subject: [SLE] Missing packages in USA distribution... What are they?

Does anyone have a list of what packages are missing from the USA distribution that are provided with the German distribution? It would be nice if this list also showed what series said packages were located in. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

mha＠suse.de

17:02

New subject: [SLE] Missing packages in USA distribution... What are they?

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Argentium G. Tiger wrote:

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Does anyone have a list of what packages are missing from the USA distribution that are provided with the German distribution? It would be nice if this list also showed what series said packages were located in.

Mostly, that's anything containing encryption. Not because of US export laws, but because virtually all of them use patented RSA stuff at a point, and RSA licenses are very expensive (a SuSE Linux box would cost several thousand dollars if it included a RSA license). For example, ssh, Apaches SSL module, Roxens SSL module, etc. -- Currently at Oracle, Redwood City, California Oracle-EMail: mhasenst@us.oracle.com Michael Hasenstein http://www.suse.de/~mha/ Private Pilot (ASEL+aerobatics) since 1998 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

chris.reeves＠iname.com

13:59

Rogier Maas wrote:

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You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't include it? Tar is never out of date.

But its manpage is. Red Hat just include an old man page, not an up-to-date one. The documentation for tar is now found with 'info tar' or 'tar --help |less' as someone mentioned earlier. There's been a lot of confusion about this in the past... Hope that helps, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

abrahams＠valinet.com

17:53

Chris Reeves wrote:

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Rogier Maas wrote:

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You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't include it? Tar is never out of date.

But its manpage is. Red Hat just include an old man page, not an up-to-date one.

The documentation for tar is now found with 'info tar' or 'tar --help |less' as someone mentioned earlier.

There's been a lot of confusion about this in the past...

The question is whether an out-of-date man page is better than none at all. I think it is, particularly since the old options almost always work, but opinions may differ. Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

keith＠HaggleWare.com

20:09

Bah. If anyone is familiar with the GNU Coding Standards (http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_toc.html), they'd understand why man pages are either out of date or non-existant. "The preferred way to document part of the GNU system is to write a manual in the Texinfo formatting language. This makes it possible to produce a good quality formatted book, using TeX, and to generate an Info file. It is also possible to generate HTML output from Texinfo source." (http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_28.html#SEC28) Regarding man pages: "In the GNU project, man pages are secondary. It is not necessary or expected for every GNU program to have a man page, but some of them do. It's your choice whether to include a man page in your program." (http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_37.html#SEC37) yadda yadda yadda. And of course, 99.9% if not all GNU programs support at least two options, --help and --version (http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_14.html#SEC14) ; try using them sometime. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul W. Abrahams" To: "Chris Reeves" Cc: ; "SuSE Mailing List" Sent: 14 February 2000, Monday 12:53 Subject: Re: [SLE] Tar! | Chris Reeves wrote: | | > Rogier Maas wrote: | > > | > > You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't | > > include it? Tar is never out of date. | > | > But its manpage is. Red Hat just include an old man page, not an up-to-date | > one. | > | > The documentation for tar is now found with 'info tar' or 'tar --help |less' as | > someone mentioned earlier. | > | > There's been a lot of confusion about this in the past... | | The question is whether an out-of-date man page is better than none at all. I | think it is, particularly since the old options almost always work, but opinions | may differ. | | Paul Abrahams | | | | -- | To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com | For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com | Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ | | -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

mhtexcollins＠austin.rr.com

14:48

Oh no, Not again. Didn't we finish up with this over a month ago;-0 Rogier Maas wrote:

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You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't include it? Tar is never out of date.

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abrahams＠valinet.com

17:55

"Michael H. Collins" wrote:

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Oh no, Not again. Didn't we finish up with this over a month ago;-0

Rogier Maas wrote:

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You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why SuSE didn't include it? Tar is never out of date.

Some questions are eternal: 1. What is the meaning of life? 2. Where is the man page for `tar'? Paul Abrahams -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

22 Feb 22 Feb

00:14

Maybe this is an indication that something is missing from the distro? Maybe the info pages should be converted to man pages so people can find them. Possibly a switch in Suse config can set HELP_SOURCE [man|info|...] then the appropriate pages can be produced. I've looked at a few info pages and the formatting is terrible. I much prefer the look of a man page. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael H. Collins Cc: SuSE Linux Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] Tar!

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Oh no, Not again. Didn't we finish up with this over a month ago;-0

Rogier Maas wrote:

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You're right, I was looking on an RHS box. I wonder why

SuSE didn't

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include it? Tar is never out of date.

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sysop＠webdirekt.de

14 Feb 14 Feb

13:21

New subject: [SLE] TAR! -- the final

A Nourai wrote:

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there is no man page for tar included in suse (its uniantained and old and out of date??).

I think we've been through this.

tar --help | more !!! -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

liquidox＠NigHtRaIN.itacs.to

11:07

Rusty wrote:

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Hi!

The other day I downloaded a driver from oss for my soundcard. I used the command gunzip oss* | tar xvh. All I got was the oss*.tar file. When I tried to untar this file with the command tar xvh oss* and hit enter the cursor moved one line down and sat there blinking at me.

Use xpvf oss* x - extract p - permissions v - verbose f - file name (this is what you've missed, it needs the 'f' option to declare the file name else it waits for standard input ;-) -- System panic: Can not find windows, exit through the door? Uptime info: 12:47pm up 3 min, 8 users, load average: 0.19, 0.14, 0.06 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

sysop＠webdirekt.de

12:22

Rusty wrote:

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Is ther some secret? Information in the 6.3 manual is nonexistant.

tar --help | more :-? dan -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

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