I loaded 9.3 up and install went well. I did the on line update part except the Nvidia ones. Rebooted did the you thing for the Nvidia. Rebooted fine. Diddled with a few personal setting such as screen saver and wallpaper. Shutdown and later fired up twice. Then I went to fire up and could only get a grey/blue screen that asks for log on and gives a console only. Its an x screen and does not allow for further options without knowledge on how to use the console a lot more than I do. I reinstalled and the same story! Any one got a clue what it's doing. I have reinstalled 9.2 and no probs. The screen did show an error about the floppy ( I did not write it down). There wasn't a disk in the floppy! Chris
On Thursday 21 April 2005 03:32, Chris wrote:
I loaded 9.3 up and install went well. I did the on line update part except the Nvidia ones. Rebooted did the you thing for the Nvidia. Rebooted fine. Diddled with a few personal setting such as screen saver and wallpaper. Shutdown and later fired up twice. Then I went to fire up and could only get a grey/blue screen that asks for log on and gives a console only. Its an x screen and does not allow for further options without knowledge on how to use the console a lot more than I do.
There's a bug that gives you the xdm display manager instead of the normal kdm To solve, do this: log in as user root and run the command 'rcxdm stop'. Then run the command yast. Then go to System->/etc/sysconfig editor, and then to desktop->display manager->display manager and change the value to kdm. Finish and quit out of yast and run 'rcxdm start' and you should see your regular login screen again
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 03:32, Chris wrote:
I loaded 9.3 up and install went well. I did the on line update part except the Nvidia ones. Rebooted did the you thing for the Nvidia. Rebooted fine. Diddled with a few personal setting such as screen saver and wallpaper. Shutdown and later fired up twice. Then I went to fire up and could only get a grey/blue screen that asks for log on and gives a console only. Its an x screen and does not allow for further options without knowledge on how to use the console a lot more than I do.
There's a bug that gives you the xdm display manager instead of the normal kdm
To solve, do this: log in as user root and run the command 'rcxdm stop'. Then run the command yast.
Then go to System->/etc/sysconfig editor, and then to desktop->display manager->display manager and change the value to kdm.
Finish and quit out of yast and run 'rcxdm start' and you should see your regular login screen again
Tsk! I am surprised that Chris, silly boy, didn't know about this simple bug and how to fix it. Cheers. --
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 22 April 2005 13:33, Basil Chupin wrote:
Tsk! I am surprised that Chris, silly boy, didn't know about this simple bug and how to fix it.
huh?
I was being sarcastic, Anders :-). One buys a new product, tries to install it and has problems; and one is then told, "Oh yeah, there is a bug and this is how you fix it". I haven't checked, but is there an advisory on the SuSE site about this bug and how to fix it? Cheers. --
Basil Chupin wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 22 April 2005 13:33, Basil Chupin wrote:
Tsk! I am surprised that Chris, silly boy, didn't know about this simple bug and how to fix it.
huh?
I was being sarcastic, Anders :-).
One buys a new product, tries to install it and has problems; and one is then told, "Oh yeah, there is a bug and this is how you fix it". I haven't checked, but is there an advisory on the SuSE site about this bug and how to fix it?
Cheers.
Thanks to Anders for the solution. After this was fixed you and yast stopped! Fixed that by doing a repair through the install - repair options on the dvd. Now I hope things work ok for a while. Just for the record I knew someone was being sarcastic you see, I'm not silly or a boy. Chris
Hi, On Saturday 23 April 2005 12:31, Basil Chupin wrote:
One buys a new product, tries to install it and has problems; and one is then told, "Oh yeah, there is a bug and this is how you fix it". I haven't checked, but is there an advisory on the SuSE site about this bug and how to fix it?
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/04/dregen_xdm93.html Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
Hartmut Meyer wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday 23 April 2005 12:31, Basil Chupin wrote:
One buys a new product, tries to install it and has problems; and one is then told, "Oh yeah, there is a bug and this is how you fix it". I haven't checked, but is there an advisory on the SuSE site about this bug and how to fix it?
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/04/dregen_xdm93.html
Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
Thank you for this information, Hartmut. I'll now put this URL into my Bookmarks ('cause it's an adventure trying to find this on the Novell site - it was so simple on the SuSE site). Cheers. -- Indecent, a: if it's long enough, thick enough, and in deep enough, it's in decent.
Basil Chupin wrote:
Hartmut Meyer wrote:
Hi,
On Saturday 23 April 2005 12:31, Basil Chupin wrote:
One buys a new product, tries to install it and has problems; and one is then told, "Oh yeah, there is a bug and this is how you fix it". I haven't checked, but is there an advisory on the SuSE site about this bug and how to fix it?
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/04/dregen_xdm93.html
Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
Thank you for this information, Hartmut. I'll now put this URL into my Bookmarks ('cause it's an adventure trying to find this on the Novell site - it was so simple on the SuSE site).
Cheers.
This advice refers to upgrade. I got the bug happening and I did a fresh install. I put this here in case soem one does a search. Hopefully they will not be put off by the reference to upgrade. Chris.
Op maandag 25 april 2005 02:17, schreef Chris:
http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2005/04/dregen_xdm93.html
Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
Thank you for this information, Hartmut. I'll now put this URL into my Bookmarks ('cause it's an adventure trying to find this on the Novell site - it was so simple on the SuSE site).
Cheers.
This advice refers to upgrade. I got the bug happening and I did a fresh install. I put this here in case soem one does a search. Hopefully they will not be put off by the reference to upgrade.
In my case it is also after a fresh installation. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
The Monday 2005-04-25 at 19:32 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Thank you for this information, Hartmut. I'll now put this URL into my Bookmarks ('cause it's an adventure trying to find this on the Novell site - it was so simple on the SuSE site).
Well, it is easy to find going to "http://portal.suse.com/", which I have had bookmarked for months or even years :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2005-04-25 at 19:32 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Thank you for this information, Hartmut. I'll now put this URL into my Bookmarks ('cause it's an adventure trying to find this on the Novell site - it was so simple on the SuSE site).
Well, it is easy to find going to "http://portal.suse.com/", which I have had bookmarked for months or even years :-)
Well you see, I don't have problems with SuSE :-* so I have never had the need to bookmark that URL. But I will now. Cheers. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
The Wednesday 2005-04-27 at 22:16 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Well you see, I don't have problems with SuSE :-* so I have never had the need to bookmark that URL. But I will now.
A few versions back, it was even easier, because there was an rpm to get our local SDB server. Alas, it no longer exists. :-/ Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection! -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2005-04-27 at 22:16 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Well you see, I don't have problems with SuSE :-* so I have never had the need to bookmark that URL. But I will now.
A few versions back, it was even easier, because there was an rpm to get our local SDB server. Alas, it no longer exists. :-/
Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection!
Shortsighted, isn't it? There is one very intelligent site I have come across (and which I use when necessary) which is LEADTEK in Taiwan. The application for the TV cards I have is nearly 30Mb big so what Leaktek have intelligently done is to archive the program using RAR and also break it up into 5Mb chunks. They did this, as they state on their site, for those who don't have broadband and can, therefore, using dial-up, download one part at a time at their convenience, and after they have all the parts they run the first chunk (an executable) which then merges the other 5 chunks into the one complete application. Wish there were more sites with brains around. Cheers. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
The Thursday 2005-04-28 at 18:59 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
A few versions back, it was even easier, because there was an rpm to get our local SDB server. Alas, it no longer exists. :-/
Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection!
Shortsighted, isn't it?
Ah, but somethings, like update deltas for YOU are a very good idea. They started using inclremental patches in 8.something, but they didn't always create them: aparently they were not inmediate (easy) to make.
There is one very intelligent site I have come across (and which I use when necessary) which is LEADTEK in Taiwan. The application for the TV cards I have is nearly 30Mb big so what Leaktek have intelligently done is to archive the program using RAR and also break it up into 5Mb chunks. They did this, as they state on their site, for those who don't have broadband and can, therefore, using dial-up, download one part at a time at their convenience, and after they have all the parts they run the first chunk (an executable) which then merges the other 5 chunks into the one complete application. Wish there were more sites with brains around.
Well, I'm content if I can stop the ftp transfer, and continue another time. I do that with big download, like kernels, spread over dozens of connections on several days. I have seen some sites compressing with two different compresors, one on top of the other. Surprisingly, sometimes they get a noticiable size reduction (even if one of them was an autodecompress file, with a .exe stub). -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Basil, On Thursday 28 April 2005 01:59, Basil Chupin wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2005-04-27 at 22:16 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: ...
Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection!
Shortsighted, isn't it?
The opposite, I'd say. But it is presumptuous.
...
-- Understanding only begins with the act of perception.
Define "perception." And defend referring to it is an "act." Randall Schulz
Hi, On Wednesday 27 April 2005 21:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2005-04-27 at 22:16 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Well you see, I don't have problems with SuSE :-* so I have never had the need to bookmark that URL. But I will now.
A few versions back, it was even easier, because there was an rpm to get our local SDB server. Alas, it no longer exists. :-/
Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection!
No. The technolgy behind the SUSE support data base has changed and with this change it was no longer possible to provide a local version of it (as it used to be). The SUSE support data base used to be a "stand allone apllication" (http://sdb.suse.de) but it is now integral part of the portal (http://portal.suse.com) which offers quite a bit more than just the SDB. There was a script that extracted the current content of the (old) SDB and dumped it to the local filesystem. This was then provided as a RPM with the distribution. I'm not saying it couldn't have been developed (again). Wheter or not that is the case I simply don't know. Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
The Thursday 2005-04-28 at 13:32 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
A few versions back, it was even easier, because there was an rpm to get our local SDB server. Alas, it no longer exists. :-/
Maybe they think that every body has a full-time internet connection!
No.
The technolgy behind the SUSE support data base has changed and with this change it was no longer possible to provide a local version of it (as it used to be). The SUSE support data base used to be a "stand allone apllication" (http://sdb.suse.de) but it is now integral part of the portal (http://portal.suse.com) which offers quite a bit more than just the SDB.
I know, I remember that.
There was a script that extracted the current content of the (old) SDB and dumped it to the local filesystem. This was then provided as a RPM with the distribution.
I'm not saying it couldn't have been developed (again). Wheter or not that is the case I simply don't know.
Right, that's what I'm thinking about. ;-) My only alternative is to use wget to replicate the html articles locally, and then perhaps configure htdig to get my local engine running. As a matter of fact, I no longer rely on the suse sdb search engine, because it fails to find what I'm looking for (it doesn't even find articles I remember, and I printed). Instead, I go to the historical list, and visually inspect all titles till I see one that looks promissing for the problem I try to solve. :-/ -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Hi, On Monday 02 May 2005 13:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
As a matter of fact, I no longer rely on the suse sdb search engine, because it fails to find what I'm looking for (it doesn't even find articles I remember, and I printed).
That would be a case of articles not being associated with the right set of search words. But this can be changed. You could send an e-mail to sdb@suse.de suggesting one or more words to be added to the search list for a certain support data base article.
Instead, I go to the historical list, and visually inspect all titles till I see one that looks promissing for the problem I try to solve.
Did you see the fulltext search option? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut
The Monday 2005-05-02 at 15:33 +0200, Hartmut Meyer wrote:
On Monday 02 May 2005 13:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
As a matter of fact, I no longer rely on the suse sdb search engine, because it fails to find what I'm looking for (it doesn't even find articles I remember, and I printed).
That would be a case of articles not being associated with the right set of search words. But this can be changed.
You could send an e-mail to sdb@suse.de suggesting one or more words to be added to the search list for a certain support data base article.
I'll try to remember next time :-)
Instead, I go to the historical list, and visually inspect all titles till I see one that looks promissing for the problem I try to solve.
Did you see the fulltext search option?
Yes. It might be that I didn't on occasion, or that the site was in the process of moving. As I said, I'll be more careful next time, and try to report - which, as my connection time is limited, I can't do much. Hold on, you said emailing... right, that's easier :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
There's a bug that gives you the xdm display manager instead of the normal kdm
To solve, do this: log in as user root and run the command 'rcxdm stop'. Then run the command yast.
Then go to System->/etc/sysconfig editor, and then to desktop->display manager->display manager and change the value to kdm.
Finish and quit out of yast and run 'rcxdm start' and you should see your regular login screen again
thanks anders. i've updated five of my machines to 9.3 and just started having this same problem on two of them last night. i was going to ask about it but now i just get to say thanks! fyi: the two machines i'm having problems with are the only two of these five that authenticate using NIS. my first thought was that this was somehow related to the problem but apparently not. thanks again.
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:46:32 +0200, you wrote:
On Thursday 21 April 2005 03:32, Chris wrote:
I loaded 9.3 up and install went well. I did the on line update part except the Nvidia ones. Rebooted did the you thing for the Nvidia. Rebooted fine. Diddled with a few personal setting such as screen saver and wallpaper. Shutdown and later fired up twice. Then I went to fire up and could only get a grey/blue screen that asks for log on and gives a console only. Its an x screen and does not allow for further options without knowledge on how to use the console a lot more than I do.
There's a bug that gives you the xdm display manager instead of the normal kdm
To solve, do this: log in as user root and run the command 'rcxdm stop'. Then run the command yast.
Then go to System->/etc/sysconfig editor, and then to desktop->display manager->display manager and change the value to kdm.
Finish and quit out of yast and run 'rcxdm start' and you should see your regular login screen again
Thanks Anders! I hit the same bug today, but luckily I paid attention when you explained the fix. Took me about 5 minutes (it took that long because I couldn't figure out how to open a console in xdm) FWIW - it didn't trigger until I installed the updates from YOU... maybe that's where the bug snuck in? Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments.
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