On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

On Friday 14 August 2009 14:16:10 Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Arun Khan wrote:

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On Wednesday 12 Aug 2009, Juan De Vincenzo wrote:

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Thanks and great job!

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Also, please let me know if for any reason I infringed any licenses or anything, since as you can see I included the OpenSUSE logo. Hope it is ok.

Logos are usually copy righted and cannot be used without specific consent from the owner.  To be on the safe side I would suggest you remove them.

What are the rules for the opensuse community using the opensuse logo?

See http://news.opensuse.org/2009/03/02/opensuse-trademark-guidelines- released/

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I seriously hope the logo can remain on these pdfs.  They are a quality piece of support literature.  And it is now being hosted on the opensuse wiki which has the logo all over it.

Is there a way to submit them to the opensuse board etc. for approval to use the logo?

Yes, see above.

I think in this specific case, ask on the opensuse-project mailing list if the policy is not clear (haven't checked it myself),

Andreas

The actual guideline is at http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/5/51/OpenSUSE_Trademark_Guidelines.pdf To me it is not clear in this case. ie. Several use cases are addressed, but I don't think this one is. I'll post a question on the opensuse-project mailing list. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Friday is not the day with the most free time, but I just wanted to explain that what led me to include the logo there was that I saw it used and transformed in many websites and personal blogs, I thought it wouldn't be a problem to include it there, since the contents of the cheat sheet where taken from the actual Zypper Usage page, I only changed some of the programs used on the examples but just for the sake of succintness. But I asked on my first e-mail because I just wanted to be sure. So, let's see what they reply is to Greg e-mail. Aside to Greg, thanks a lot for taking the initiative, I didn't have the time, plus I wasn't really sure how to present the topic. Regards for everyone, Juan On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Brian K. White wrote:

Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Friday 14 August 2009 14:16:10 Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Arun Khan wrote:

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On Wednesday 12 Aug 2009, Juan De Vincenzo wrote:

<snip>

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Thanks and great job!

...

Also, please let me know if for any reason I infringed any licenses or anything, since as you can see I included the OpenSUSE logo. Hope it is ok.

Logos are usually copy righted and cannot be used without specific consent from the owner.  To be on the safe side I would suggest you remove them.

What are the rules for the opensuse community using the opensuse logo?

See http://news.opensuse.org/2009/03/02/opensuse-trademark-guidelines- released/

...

I seriously hope the logo can remain on these pdfs.  They are a quality piece of support literature.  And it is now being hosted on the opensuse wiki which has the logo all over it.

Is there a way to submit them to the opensuse board etc. for approval to use the logo?

Yes, see above.

I think in this specific case, ask on the opensuse-project mailing list if the policy is not clear (haven't checked it myself),

Andreas

The actual guideline is at

http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/5/51/OpenSUSE_Trademark_Guidelines.pdf

To me it is not clear in this case.  ie. Several use cases are addressed, but I don't think this one is.  I'll post a question on the opensuse-project mailing list.

Greg

Perhaps another approach is just write the info directly in the wiki and let the wiki itself supply the logo naturally. I don't know how formattable the opensuse wiki is but I know mediawiki in general does allow for that much formatting by a regular user. And, I don't know if the opensuse wiki has it, but I know I installed a simple plugin to my mediawiki that provides a link on every page that generates a pdf of that page.

Maybe the opensuse wiki doesn't allow for these right now, but they are small changes that opensuse might be convinced to add, with this document as the example and justification for the request.

A nice, functional and truly helpful "good thing(tm)" document like that shouldn't be held up because of issues like the right to incorporate the logo, and neither should it have to look less snazzy in order to be allowed to exist.

If it were possible to write it in wiki instead of in office/pdf/etc... that would solve everything and it would be a more elegant arrangement with one easily maintainable copy of the data instead of multiple redundant pdf files that aren't easily editable.

-- bkw

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