[opensuse] US International English keyboard
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do. Any ideas? tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-11 22:44, James Knott wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do.
I have used that keyboard when I had to use a US keyboard and type in Spanish. Yes, very useful. And it is easier to use than the compose method. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhN0WAACgkQja8UbcUWM1ybUgD9Hrka7545iUa1X1oisCmq5+Lc Iwo3DDCi7wsryGsFAsQA/1L2IMd/qmPzzoKi395QAZxz4IV4uuqAfb7elSDlEgxy =ENYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
12.12.2016 00:44, James Knott пишет:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1.
Layout = English (US) Variant = English (International AltGr dead keys) does it at least under XFCE.
However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
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On 12/11/2016 10:34 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This
allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. Layout = English (US) Variant = English (International AltGr dead keys)
does it at least under XFCE.
I get the upside down exclamation mark "¡". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
12.12.2016 06:40, James Knott пишет:
On 12/11/2016 10:34 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This
allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. Layout = English (US) Variant = English (International AltGr dead keys)
does it at least under XFCE.
I get the upside down exclamation mark "¡".
That's different layout. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 10:40 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 10:34 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This
allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. Layout = English (US) Variant = English (International AltGr dead keys)
does it at least under XFCE.
I get the upside down exclamation mark "¡".
Sorry, I was using the English U.S. International with dead keys. That other one appears to be it. tnx jk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-12 04:40, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 10:34 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This
allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. Layout = English (US) Variant = English (International AltGr dead keys)
does it at least under XFCE.
I get the upside down exclamation mark "¡".
Well, that symbol is used in Spanish and in the Spanish keyboard it is located precisely there: right alt key (alt gr) + 1 - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhOIHkACgkQja8UbcUWM1wgqwD/W6w5dmCVLghgygMPuMFnCikA kuZYRHV6pt88PBvXkvcA/3EjCwJLG1iP1z4clPBqikXjrNiH4rnDPFTpN217bjV4 =CRrC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 03:44 PM, James Knott wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
Can you make a Compose key on your system? You will have to learn to use Compose, but most of it is pretty simple. Compose plus two ordinary characters (no need for a special keyboard layout) produces lots of special characters. Just about all the European language characters, like ä ö ü Ä Ö Ü ß á é í ó ú ç ñ ¿ and the reverse accents and û (the only French hat in use anymore) and £ and ¥ and ¢ and ° and ½ ⅓ ¼ ¾, etc, and µ. You can also do superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.--A.M,Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 11:00 PM, Doug wrote:
On 12/11/2016 03:44 PM, James Knott wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout. This allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
Can you make a Compose key on your system? You will have to learn to use Compose, but most of it is pretty simple. Compose plus two ordinary characters (no need for a special keyboard layout) produces lots of special characters. Just about all the European language characters, like ä ö ü Ä Ö Ü ß á é í ó ú ç ñ ¿ and the reverse accents and û (the only French hat in use anymore) and £ and ¥ and ¢ and ° and ½ ⅓ ¼ ¾, etc, and µ. You can also do superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those.
--doug
Why should I have to create a compose key, when it used to work so well. I'd just press the right Alt key and whatever other key to create the desired character. Why should it now be more difficult? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On December 11, 2016 2:13:57 PM PST, James Knott
On 12/11/2016 11:00 PM, Doug wrote:
On 12/11/2016 03:44 PM, James Knott wrote:
I have long used the U.S. International English keyboard layout.
This
allows me to use special characters. For example, Alt-1 would create a superscript 1. However, I don't see how to do this in 42.2 I can find 3 alternative U.S. English layouts, but none do what I used to be able to do.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
Can you make a Compose key on your system? You will have to learn to use Compose, but most of it is pretty simple. Compose plus two ordinary characters (no need for a special keyboard layout) produces lots of special characters. Just about all the European language characters, like ä ö ü Ä Ö Ü ß á é í ó ú ç ñ ¿ and the reverse accents and û (the only French hat in use anymore) and £ and ¥ and ¢ and ° and ½ ⅓ ¼ ¾, etc, and µ. You can also do superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those.
--doug
Why should I have to create a compose key, when it used to work so well. I'd just press the right Alt key and whatever other key to create the desired character. Why should it now be more difficult?
Correct keyboard selected in settings? Your DE already overriding keyboard choice? Some long forgotten settings you made in your prior installation? Might help if we knew what DE you have? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 05:18 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Correct keyboard selected in settings? Your DE already overriding keyboard choice? Some long forgotten settings you made in your prior installation?
Might help if we knew what DE you have?
I used the Configure Desktop > Input Devices > Keyboard Layouts tab to select the layouts, just as I did before. I'm running KDE and upgraded 13.1 to 42.2. There's an icon on my task bar that shows US. I could use that to select the layout. That still works, but no longer displays which one is selected. I could also press Ctrl & Shift to switch layouts, but that doesn't seem to work now either. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
if you right click on the icon, or go through settings you can set a
name and shortcut for each keyboard and/or set global keyboard toggle
On 11 December 2016 at 23:32, James Knott
On 12/11/2016 05:18 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Correct keyboard selected in settings? Your DE already overriding keyboard choice? Some long forgotten settings you made in your prior installation?
Might help if we knew what DE you have?
I used the Configure Desktop > Input Devices > Keyboard Layouts tab to select the layouts, just as I did before. I'm running KDE and upgraded 13.1 to 42.2.
There's an icon on my task bar that shows US. I could use that to select the layout. That still works, but no longer displays which one is selected. I could also press Ctrl & Shift to switch layouts, but that doesn't seem to work now either.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-12 05:00, Doug wrote: You can also do
superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those.
a¹²³⁴⁵ It works with ^ and number. Without the need for the compose key. But I can't do wit letters, because I get the hat instead: â - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhN0FEACgkQja8UbcUWM1xY3wD9FxkvCxYZ1IREv4IszT6pu8Bb j9FRh5eB4RGOyHXOOyAA/iHd28U+W9+6kBOZLLkQbjKgV1NMZwI4IDrL06+J8nAG =y+5X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 05:16 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can also do
superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those. a¹²³⁴⁵
It works with ^ and number. Without the need for the compose key. But I can't do wit letters, because I get the hat instead: â
It will depend on your layout. Are you using the U.S. International English? This is the layout I often used. I could switch between standard & international U.S. English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards#/media/File:KB_... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-12-11 23:22, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 05:16 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You can also do
superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those. a¹²³⁴⁵
It works with ^ and number. Without the need for the compose key. But I can't do wit letters, because I get the hat instead: â
It will depend on your layout. Are you using the U.S. International English?
No, Spanish. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlhN22IACgkQja8UbcUWM1yBIQD/TVmTHhEhPtB/dbm7JNXzN388 3MMJyL7EvwMSKrEhSiAA/RJGhllMtfkvY22hj+1kMxPJs42Fe97Kef1EKEQUgqgY =AZbu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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On 2016-12-12 05:00, Doug wrote:
You can also do
superscirpts and subscripts, but I don't remember the sequence for those.
a¹²³⁴⁵
It works with ^ and number. Without the need for the compose key. But I can't do wit letters, because I get the hat instead: â
<rt-alt><shift><^> â -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Doug wrote:
Can you make a Compose key on your system? You will have to learn to use Compose, but most of it is pretty simple. Compose plus two ordinary characters (no need for a special keyboard layout) produces lots of special characters. Just about all the European language characters, like ä ö ü Ä Ö Ü ß á é í ó ú ç ñ ¿ and the reverse accents and û (the only French hat in use anymore)
Huh? Did someone get rid of "être", "bientôt", "pêche", "flûte", "fraîche" ? When I was taught French (granted quite some time ago), those words were certainly written with a circonflexe. Looking at the 200ml tub of "Crème fraîche" I bought only last Friday, it's certainly still in use there. https://produkte.migros.ch/valflora-creme-fraiche-nature -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/12/2016 01:06 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
Doug wrote:
Can you make a Compose key on your system? You will have to learn to use Compose, but most of it is pretty simple. Compose plus two ordinary characters (no need for a special keyboard layout) produces lots of special characters. Just about all the European language characters, like ä ö ü Ä Ö Ü ß á é í ó ú ç ñ ¿ and the reverse accents and û (the only French hat in use anymore) Huh? Did someone get rid of "être", "bientôt", "pêche", "flûte", "fraîche" ? When I was taught French (granted quite some time ago), those words were certainly written with a circonflexe.
Looking at the 200ml tub of "Crème fraîche" I bought only last Friday, it's certainly still in use there.
There was a news item earlier this year that said the French Academy had removed the hat from all words except one, where a u would change the meaning of the word with or without the hat. No I don't remember the word, since I don't speak French. Presumably the Internet will confirm this. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.--A.M,Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Doug wrote:
There was a news item earlier this year that said the French Academy had
Not quite true. The source document "Les Rectifications de l'Orthographe" dated 6th december 1990 http://academie-francaise.fr/sites/academie-francaise.fr/files/rectification... is due to the french administration, not the academy. On 10th december 1990 the academy debated the proposal, and gave cautious approval with warnings against "imperative imposition of the recommendations". See http://www.academie-francaise.fr/actualites/lacademie-francaise-et-la-reform...
removed the hat from all words except one, where a u would change the meaning of the word with or without the hat. No I don't remember the word, since I don't speak French. Presumably the Internet will confirm this.
The warning against "imperative imposition" has had it's effect and there has been no significant adoption. The old, familiar style of writing with the circumflex is still legally admissible and is still in use. Roger -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 12/12/2016 à 19:20, Roger Price a écrit :
The warning against "imperative imposition" has had it's effect and there has been no significant adoption. The old, familiar style of writing with the circumflex is still legally admissible and is still in use.
but spell checkers do not follow and color in red some perfectly legal spelling :-( jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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