Hi, Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 25 2007 20:50, Ron Eggler wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend. If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 01:20:54 am Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 25 2007 20:50, Ron Eggler wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated!
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
I use IPP, how do i use "Publish Printer"? - I don't see a link that's called like that. Thanks, Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2] [2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to CUPS. I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the Windows computer at the CUPS server. However, you may need a printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported. But then you'd need that, even if directly connected to the printer. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 26 2007 11:42, James Knott wrote:
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to CUPS. I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the Windows computer at the CUPS server. However, you may need a printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported.
Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka "raw").. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example, if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or... [1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 09:42:31 am Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 11:42, James Knott wrote:
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to CUPS. I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the Windows computer at the CUPS server. However, you may need a printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported.
Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka "raw").. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example, if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...
[1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)
Would the result on paper be the same? -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 08:42:12 am James Knott wrote:
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
I have never had to download a driver, postscript or other, to talk to CUPS. I simply configure CUPS for the printer and then point the Windows computer at the CUPS server. However, you may need a printer driver for Windows, if the printer is not already supported. But then you'd need that, even if directly connected to the printer.
Exactly, but that still doesn't resolve the issue of my "No access" problem. Thanks for any further help! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 05:50:01 am Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 07:30, James Knott wrote:
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
[2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip Huh, don't i need to use the vendor's driver anyways? (If not included in Windows)
-- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 04:30:44 am James Knott wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Uhm, how do I do either or, i can't remember to have set such an option in cupsd.conf :o Thanks, Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 04:30:44 am James Knott wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Except for older versions of Windows, you shouldn't have to download anything. Just configure to use http or ipp printing.
Uhm, how do I do either or, i can't remember to have set such an option in cupsd.conf :o
Microsoft has downloads available that enable internet printing support in Windows 98 and 2000, which will allow Windows to use a CUPS printer over the network. This is built into XP already. I don't recall the details, but you are then able to configure the printer in Windows, though you have to specifically configure it, as browsing for the printer does not work. You don't have to do anything special in CUPS. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Microsoft has downloads available that enable internet printing support in Windows 98 and 2000, which will allow Windows to use a CUPS printer over the network. This is built into XP already. I don't recall the Really? That is funny. I just got a new Compaq notebook with Vista. I was trying to get a Netgear PS110 print server working but couldn't until I searched the net to find one document that decribed the process to install an option unix printing module that allowed me to use the unix interface to the PS110. So, it seems that for Vista what was once integrated is now optional.
Maybe once I finish setting up a PC with SuSE 10.2 I can test printing from the Vista computer through the SuSE computer Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
Microsoft has downloads available that enable internet printing support in Windows 98 and 2000, which will allow Windows to use a CUPS printer over the network. This is built into XP already. I don't recall the Really? That is funny. I just got a new Compaq notebook with Vista. I was trying to get a Netgear PS110 print server working but couldn't until I searched the net to find one document that decribed the process to install an option unix printing module that allowed me to use the unix interface to the PS110. So, it seems that for Vista what was once integrated is now optional.
Maybe once I finish setting up a PC with SuSE 10.2 I can test printing from the Vista computer through the SuSE computer
Damon Register I think you're still heading in the wrong direction "Unix" printing is usually something like LPR, which is not what I'm referring to. In XP, using the add printer wizard, I select network printer and then the next setting shows an option "Connect to a printer on the internet or on a home or office network" which has a box for entering a URL for the
Damon Register wrote: printer. Do you not have something like that? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Ron, I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:21:45 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Ron,
I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? Does every Windows user need to be added? I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this: server:~ # lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' Enter password: {no password so i hit [enter]} Enter password again: {[enter] again} lppasswd: Sorry, password rejected. Your password must be at least 6 characters long, cannot contain your username, and must contain at least one letter and number. server:~ # So does it require a Windows password? Hmm weird, there must be a possibility to just open it up somehow i think, no? -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:21:45 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons! Ron,
I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? Does every Windows user need to be added? I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this: server:~ # lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' Enter password: {no password so i hit [enter]} Enter password again: {[enter] again} lppasswd: Sorry, password rejected. Your password must be at least 6 characters long, cannot contain your username, and must contain at least one letter and number. server:~ #
So does it require a Windows password? Hmm weird, there must be a possibility to just open it up somehow i think, no?
Ron
There is and that is/should be the default! See /etc/cups/cups.conf:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 08:01:09 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:21:45 am David C. Rankin wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Hi,
Okay, after playing around a little bit for a while i still gotta come and ask here. I got my printer setup on my suse 10.1 server system and i can print just fine with my Suse 10.2 client but not with the Windows client(s). In Windows i can browse for the printer and it shows it up nicely. Double click tells me that it'll download the driver to the system but then it still can't find it and i will need to install it manually. Anyways, once done this, i can nicely add it to my windows printer(s) but when i try to print something it tells me "Access denied, unable to connect". I'm not reallly sure what's wrong since i can print from my suse 10.2 client just fine. Can anyone help me? This would be appreciated! Thanks tons!
Ron,
I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication? Does every Windows user need to be added? I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this: server:~ # lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' Enter password: {no password so i hit [enter]} Enter password again: {[enter] again} lppasswd: Sorry, password rejected. Your password must be at least 6 characters long, cannot contain your username, and must contain at least one letter and number. server:~ #
So does it require a Windows password? Hmm weird, there must be a possibility to just open it up somehow i think, no?
Ron
There is and that is/should be the default! See /etc/cups/cups.conf:
# # You may wish to limit access to printers and classes, either with Allow # and Deny lines, or by requiring a username and password. # ## Anonymous access (default) AuthType None
## Require a username and password (Basic authentication) #AuthType Basic #AuthClass User
## Require a username and password (Digest/MD5 authentication) #AuthType Digest #AuthClass User
## Restrict access to local domain #Order Deny,Allow #Deny From All #Allow From .mydomain.com </Location>
confirm sbove section, looks similar on my system
# # You definitely will want to limit access to the administration functions. # The default configuration requires a local connection from a user who # is a member of the system group to do any admin tasks. You can change # the group name using the SystemGroup directive. # AuthType BasicDigest
Ah here I have AuthType Basic. Try adding Digest
AuthClass Group AuthGroupName sys
## Restrict access to local domain Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From 127.0.0.1 I allow from 192.168.0.* (so I can control it from he whole subnet) Allow From @LOCAL Allow From 66.76.63.60 Don't have above two lines
Encryption Required </Location>
Okay, changed above line by adding digest, restarted cups but in Windows it still says "Access denied, unable to connect" isn't this weird? :o
P.S. How did the intel video 1680x1050 problem come out???
Oh, didn't get it working, i'm still on 1280x1024 but i've purchsed a GeForce 7300 card on ebay which is stuck in a PostOffice in NewYork :( ... No idea how long it would take till it gets here... Thanks for any further help to get the printer issue sorted out. Getting back to my graphics later :) -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
I use IPP, how do i use "Publish Printer"? - I don't see a link that's called like that.
Publish Printer is a button in the CUPS web interface.
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
[2] http://jengelh.hopto.org/f/cups6c.zip Huh, don't i need to use the vendor's driver anyways? (If not included in Windows)
Two or more ways: - rasterization(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - printed page - postscriptize(Windows) - rasterize(CUPS) - printed page (- postscriptize(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - rasterization(printer) - printed page) The 3rd one does not always work, due to crappy printers that just lock up because they feel like they do not have enough memory.
Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka "raw").. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example, if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...
[1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)
Would the result on paper be the same?
Generally yes.
I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication?
By default, CUPS lets everyone print from localhost. If you use "Publish Printer" you can print from everywhere.
Does every Windows user need to be added?
If you run with smb printing instead of ipp, it will do "the right thing", since you can force smb that authentication is a must. As far as the linux world is considered, you always need to login to the system anyway before sending a print job, so no problem here.
I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:
lppasswd is not required in 10.2, it will use PAM. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
I use IPP, how do i use "Publish Printer"? - I don't see a link that's called like that.
Publish Printer is a button in the CUPS web interface.
I'm either blind or.... my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631): ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my printer: "Deskjet_D4200" and following link buttons: Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer| Delete Printer|Set As Default and Add Printer So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or something? :o
Well it does want a driver, and that is reasonable. I for my part prefer the CUPS Postscript one available somewhere at the cups site; a package that does both b/w and color is at [2]
Huh, don't i need to use the vendor's driver anyways? (If not included in Windows)
Two or more ways: - rasterization(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - printed page - postscriptize(Windows) - rasterize(CUPS) - printed page (- postscriptize(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - rasterization(printer) - printed page)
The 3rd one does not always work, due to crappy printers that just lock up because they feel like they do not have enough memory.
Huh? Sorry, you lost me here...not sure what you're talking about here :(
Well well, hold it. Sometimes there is a reason you want Windows to send Postscript instead of raster or printer-specific command (aka "raw").. which is what most printer drivers actually do. For example, if you want job logging[1] or let CUPS do the rasterization, or...
[1] gv /var/spool/cups/d01234-001 yup, that's all and you know what your users printed. :)
Would the result on paper be the same?
Generally yes.
I don't know if my original post got through, if so I apologize, but in addition to the above make sure you see "man lppasswd" and make sure the windows user and password have an entry in lppasswd because windows tries to auth by sending the windows login and password.
Really? Can't i just open it up for the whole network with no authentication?
By default, CUPS lets everyone print from localhost. If you use "Publish Printer" you can print from everywhere.
Does every Windows user need to be added?
If you run with smb printing instead of ipp, it will do "the right thing", since you can force smb that authentication is a must. As far as the linux world is considered, you always need to login to the system anyway before sending a print job, so no problem here.
A little earlier (a few weeks ago) I wanted to go the "easy" way via samba and then i got recommended to forget about Samba and rather just share it by CUPS. That's why I'm actually doing it the CUPS way and i'd really like to get it working that way. So i really appreciate everybody's help to get my printer shared and accessible to Windows clients. Thanks!
I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:
lppasswd is not required in 10.2, it will use PAM.
but still i would like to not use it. Thanks for any further help! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
If you use SMB printing from Windows, you can use samba's authentication controls (i.e. authenticated or guest mode) and all is well.
I use IPP, how do i use "Publish Printer"? - I don't see a link that's called like that.
Publish Printer is a button in the CUPS web interface.
I'm either blind or.... my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631): ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my printer: "Deskjet_D4200" and following link buttons: Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer| Delete Printer|Set As Default and Add Printer So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or something? :o
Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2 (1.2.7)...
Two or more ways: - rasterization(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - printed page - postscriptize(Windows) - rasterize(CUPS) - printed page (- postscriptize(Windows) - relay(CUPS) - rasterization(printer) - printed page)
The 3rd one does not always work, due to crappy printers that just lock up because they feel like they do not have enough memory.
Huh? Sorry, you lost me here...not sure what you're talking about here :(
Different ways of how to chain the print job transformation.
If you run with smb printing instead of ipp, it will do "the right thing", since you can force smb that authentication is a must. As far as the linux world is considered, you always need to login to the system anyway before sending a print job, so no problem here.
A little earlier (a few weeks ago) I wanted to go the "easy" way via samba and then i got recommended to forget about Samba and rather just share it by CUPS. That's why I'm actually doing it the CUPS way and i'd really like to get it working that way. So i really appreciate everybody's help to get my printer shared and accessible to Windows clients.
Well if you do not care about authentication, either smb or ipp works.
I tried: lppasswd -a 'Ron Eggler' and got this:
lppasswd is not required in 10.2, it will use PAM.
but still i would like to not use it.
That's what I said. CUPS will use the system password databse, and that's a good thing, is not it? Less passwords to remember. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:32, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend. I'm either blind or.... my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631): ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote: printer: "Deskjet_D4200" and following link buttons: Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer| Delete Printer|Set As Default and Add Printer So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or something? :o
Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2 (1.2.7)...
I have 10.2, cups 1.2.7 and I have Home|Administration|Classes|Documentation/Help|Jobs|Printers Under "Printers" all of my defined printers have a "Publish Printer" option. As well, under "Home", there is a button "Manage Server" and following that there is a checkbox option "Share published printers connected to this system" What version of SUSE are you using and what version of CUPS? Which RPM packages do you have installed? -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:15:08 am Don Raboud wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:32, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
I'm either blind or.... my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631): ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my printer: "Deskjet_D4200" and following link buttons: Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer| Delete Printer|Set As Default and Add Printer So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or something? :o
Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2 (1.2.7)...
I have 10.2, cups 1.2.7 and I have Home|Administration|Classes|Documentation/Help|Jobs|Printers
Under "Printers" all of my defined printers have a "Publish Printer" option.
As well, under "Home", there is a button "Manage Server" and following that there is a checkbox option
"Share published printers connected to this system"
Hm, looks differentlu here... :o
What version of SUSE are you using and what version of CUPS? Which RPM packages do you have installed?
Suse 10.1 and cups 1.1.23 Tried to Download and install the latest version from the sources tho but it wiped all my images in the web config utility(that was weird) So I didn't really see anything but i actually saw a "alt" text that said "UNpublisgh printer" so i guess it would be published already - anyways after experiencing this weird 'image problem' i went back to the version offered by yast(1.1.23) Installed are following packages (search after cups in yast) -cups -cups-SUSE-ppds-dat -cups-backends -cups-client -cups-devel -cups-drivers -cups-drivers-stp -cups-libs -gtklp -xpp -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 29 September 2007 08:41:45 am Ron Eggler wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:15:08 am Don Raboud wrote:
On Friday 28 September 2007 07:32, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 27 2007 21:45, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:12:34 pm Jan Engelhardt wrote:
On Sep 26 2007 18:48, Ron Eggler wrote:
> If you use IPP printing from Windows, you need to use "Publish > Printer" in the CUPS webfrontend.
I'm either blind or.... my cups has following link on tthe homepage (192.168.0.2:631): ESP|Administration|Classes|Help|Jobs|Printers|Software and when i click on printers (where i assume it to be) i get my printer: "Deskjet_D4200" and following link buttons: Print Test Page|Stop Printer|Reject Jobs|Modify Printer|Configure Printer| Delete Printer|Set As Default and Add Printer So I'm really not sure what you see. Am I looking at the wrong page or something? :o
Hm, I have cups 1.2.11, which is a bit newer than the one from 10.2 (1.2.7)...
I have 10.2, cups 1.2.7 and I have Home|Administration|Classes|Documentation/Help|Jobs|Printers
Under "Printers" all of my defined printers have a "Publish Printer" option.
As well, under "Home", there is a button "Manage Server" and following that there is a checkbox option
"Share published printers connected to this system"
Hm, looks differentlu here... :o
What version of SUSE are you using and what version of CUPS? Which RPM packages do you have installed?
Suse 10.1 and cups 1.1.23 Tried to Download and install the latest version from the sources tho but it wiped all my images in the web config utility(that was weird) So I didn't really see anything but i actually saw a "alt" text that said "UNpublisgh printer" so i guess it would be published already - anyways after experiencing this weird 'image problem' i went back to the version offered by yast(1.1.23)
Installed are following packages (search after cups in yast) -cups -cups-SUSE-ppds-dat -cups-backends -cups-client -cups-devel -cups-drivers -cups-drivers-stp -cups-libs -gtklp -xpp -- chEErs Ron
Okay, Now it gets weird. I did following: - mv /etc/cups /etc/cups~ # to have a copy just in case - cd cups-13.3./sorces/ - ./configure - make - make install - cp the old config back again to new /etc/cups folder - had to add the printer again in http://server:631 - have an 'unpublish printer' button only which changes to 'publish prinetr' if clicked - Still get "Access denied, unable to connect" from Windows but can print flawlessly from my Linux client. There must be something wrong with my config... Hm. I would really appreciate if someone could have a look at my config file which I made available for download at http://www.4shared.com/file/25342589/2f34460d/cupsd.html Thank you very much! Ron -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09/30/2007 08:20 AM, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Saturday 29 September 2007 08:41:45 am Ron Eggler wrote:
Suse 10.1 and cups 1.1.23 Tried to Download and install the latest version from the sources tho but it wiped all my images in the web config utility(that was weird) Why my I ask would you do that. SUSE is an rpm based distro for a reason. Get the latest rpms for your version at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/SUSE_Linux_10.1/. Also note, there were big changes in cups from 1.1.23.to 1.2.11. You will need to re setup all your printers.
Okay,
Now it gets weird. I did following: - mv /etc/cups /etc/cups~ # to have a copy just in case - cd cups-13.3./sorces/ - ./configure - make - make install
Checkinstall would have made going back a lot easier. See if make uninstall works, and use the correct rpms for your system. I am using 10.2, but I find 1.2.11 to be an excellent version. BTW, your printing subsystem is quite an important system, I would not advise lightly upgrading it to the latest and greatest (i.e. bleeding edge) without a lot of research. 1.2.11 is not the latest version possible, but the latest pre built for your version in the build service. It has now been tested by many folks, and judging from the lack of emails here (and I would assume bug reports in bugzilla), it is a version ready for prime time. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 29 September 2007 05:47:26 pm Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
On 09/30/2007 08:20 AM, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Saturday 29 September 2007 08:41:45 am Ron Eggler wrote:
Suse 10.1 and cups 1.1.23 Tried to Download and install the latest version from the sources tho but it wiped all my images in the web config utility(that was weird)
Why my I ask would you do that. SUSE is an rpm based distro for a reason. Get the latest rpms for your version at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Printing/SUSE_Linux_10.1/. Also note, there were big changes in cups from 1.1.23.to 1.2.11. You will need to re setup all your printers.
Joe, Great, thank you. installed 1.2.11 now from given repo. :)
Okay, then had to go thru the "new" conf file to find ghow I can enable remote
administration via webbrowser.
changes
<Location />
added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line
Okay,
Now it gets weird. I did following: - mv /etc/cups /etc/cups~ # to have a copy just in case - cd cups-13.3./sorces/ - ./configure - make - make install
Checkinstall would have made going back a lot easier. See if make uninstall works, and use the correct rpms for your system. I am using 10.2, but I find 1.2.11 to be an excellent version. BTW, your printing subsystem is quite an important system, I would not advise lightly upgrading it to the latest and greatest (i.e. bleeding edge) without a lot of research. 1.2.11 is not the latest version possible, but the latest pre built for your version in the build service. It has now been tested by many folks, and judging from the lack of emails here (and I would assume bug reports in bugzilla), it is a version ready for prime time. HTH.
-- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64
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Ron Eggler wrote:
Joe, Great, thank you. installed 1.2.11 now from given repo. :) Okay, then had to go thru the "new" conf file to find ghow I can enable remote administration via webbrowser. changes <Location /> added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line
added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line
added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line [save and exit] [restart /etc/init.d/cups]
but I'm still not able to login to "http://192.168.0.2:631" What went wrong here, what did I forget? Thanks lots for your help!
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Ron Eggler wrote:
Joe, Great, thank you. installed 1.2.11 now from given repo. :) Okay, then had to go thru the "new" conf file to find ghow I can enable remote administration via webbrowser. changes <Location /> added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line
added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line
added "Allow 192.168.0.*" as a new line [save and exit] [restart /etc/init.d/cups]
but I'm still not able to login to "http://192.168.0.2:631" What went wrong here, what did I forget? Thanks lots for your help!
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631 but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o Thanks for any further help! -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 15:58 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631
but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o
Ouh? Weird... I would then try with wireshark (aka ethereal) to track the connection attempt. No, first I would look at cups logs; you can also increase their verbosity. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHADMZtTMYHG2NR9URAudFAKCQoftES9X0ogymFAUlkn+zKJQysQCeN+Ct nHp/XsSeKvSXHMaQiPOgmac= =xN/Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:36:45 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 15:58 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631
but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o
Ouh?
Weird...
I would then try with wireshark (aka ethereal) to track the connection attempt. No, first I would look at cups logs; you can also increase their verbosity.
How do I increase their verbosity? been checking by: "tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log" I'm behind a hardware router/firewall so i'm not really scared about your wireshark threat ;) -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 18:09 -0700, Ron Eggler wrote:
I would then try with wireshark (aka ethereal) to track the connection attempt. No, first I would look at cups logs; you can also increase their verbosity.
How do I increase their verbosity? been checking by: "tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log"
There is also an access_log file. Ok, verbosity: # # LogLevel: controls the number of messages logged to the ErrorLog # file and can be one of the following: # # debug2 Log everything. # debug Log almost everything. # info Log all requests and state changes. # warn Log errors and warnings. # error Log only errors. # none Log nothing. # #LogLevel info LogLevel debug2
I'm behind a hardware router/firewall so i'm not really scared about your wireshark threat ;)
No, but your cups/windows setup should :-p - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHAMletTMYHG2NR9URAju9AJ4179v4TELwbE3SX99M/FOsh+W5ZACeJLz+ EwtWdMkALuNBXLeCVxBValY= =fqUQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 September 2007 16:58, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
but I'm still not able to login to "http://192.168.0.2:631" What went wrong here, what did I forget? Thanks lots for your help!
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631
but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o
How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows machine? By typing "192.168.0.2:631" in a browser? I don't know if that would work. In the add printer dialog in windows, you select network printer and at some point you can select a specific url. If the printer queue name on 192.168.0.2 is "printer_name" then the appropriate url would be http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name If you've already done this then never mind... (I don't remember the beginning of the thread...) -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-30 at 17:51 -0600, Don Raboud wrote:
Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631
but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o
How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows machine? By typing "192.168.0.2:631" in a browser? I don't know if that would work.
Yes, it should work. He is typing "http://192.168.0.2:631" on the browser, and that should work, it is the administrative interface. That's different from printing, but it is an easy network test. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHAEF+tTMYHG2NR9URAnBsAKCEpgFh/IYfyJAQt6QvCZdu+ttgIgCfYW0I J7W3smNa/jSU0Vy3xXO2pWg= =lT3Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 30 September 2007 04:51:16 pm Don Raboud wrote:
On Sunday 30 September 2007 16:58, Ron Eggler wrote:
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:55:16 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
but I'm still not able to login to "http://192.168.0.2:631" What went wrong here, what did I forget? Thanks lots for your help!
This one: # Only listen for connections from the local machine. Listen localhost:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock
Oh okay, I added following line below "Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock"
Listen 192.168.0.*:631
but it still wouldn't let me in by typing 192.168.0.2:631 and i do not have a firewall active so we can forget bout this... :o
How exactly are you trying to connect to the printer from the windows machine? By typing "192.168.0.2:631" in a browser? I don't know if that would work.
In the add printer dialog in windows, you select network printer and at some point you can select a specific url. If the printer queue name on 192.168.0.2 is "printer_name" then the appropriate url would be
http://192.168.0.2:/631/printers/printer_name
If you've already done this then never mind... (I don't remember the beginning of the thread...)
I have been able to find and add the printer in Windows flawlessly, it just wouldn't let me print. :o But since I updated cups last night i'm now fighting with the remote administration in cupsd.conf... :-O -- chEErs Ron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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