1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux? 2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ... I used before an e-book compiler, but this one is based on Internet Explorer, therefore not useful to promote "how to avoid Windows" information, ...hehehehehehe 3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once. 4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.) Any chance to do all or some of my wishes???? bye Ronald
On Friday 13 October 2006 20:26, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ... I used before an e-book compiler, but this one is based on Internet Explorer, therefore not useful to promote "how to avoid Windows" information, ...hehehehehehe
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once.
4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
Any chance to do all or some of my wishes????
bye
Ronald
And I assume you don't want to buy Acrobat? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
Look for pdflib. It is free for non-commercial use, with a few features removed. There is also a commercial version. Runs on Linux. APIs for various languages (both compiled and scripted). On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 12:26 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ... I used before an e-book compiler, but this one is based on Internet Explorer, therefore not useful to promote "how to avoid Windows" information, ...hehehehehehe
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once.
4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
Any chance to do all or some of my wishes????
bye
Ronald
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-10-14 at 12:26 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
pdftk is probably the closest. Othewise, you need Acrobat, the paid version, and it doesn't run on linux, afaik.
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ...
You need windows and that hardware encription key or whatever it is called. Linux is about freedom.
4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
No way. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFMMGXtTMYHG2NR9URAqTXAJ9/Xi086yrIY9bFZ1Q+hk00GC+/AQCeMqiK M8+jvn5/udXt+lYDQ8quMjI= =fdYI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos, On Saturday 14 October 2006 03:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
No way.
No way with pdftk? Because this is a feature of PDF files that Adobe Reader respects. Whether other PDF viewers do as well or whether there's some magical way the PDF file can prevent printing without the cooperation of the viewing application, I don't know, but it's definitely a feature of the current PDF spec. In Adobe Reader when you open a document with any of a variety of these restrictions (or add-ons such as high-resolution color printing instructions or other attachments), Reader will notify the users of any such special status the document bears.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Randall Schulz
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-10-14 at 06:28 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Saturday 14 October 2006 03:53, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
No way.
No way with pdftk? Because this is a feature of PDF files that Adobe Reader respects. Whether other PDF viewers do as well or whether
I mean there is no way to impede print-screen from working, except perhaps, using tempest fonts. Of course you can block the file from printing internally - if the reader program complies, obviously. I know of roundabouts. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFMOkhtTMYHG2NR9URAmmfAKCPcMRFkFT+QgCg+gU0QxZTkOU6ogCbBVzs 0QzS/IMIa1nperJTSIB0bKA= =J3aE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
I don't know if OpenOffice will do all of that, but give it a try. I use it for all generation of PDFs.
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once.
OpenOffice will definitely help you with that - although I think you might have to use just one page-size instead of two.
Any chance to do all or some of my wishes????
Adobe Acrobat. /Per Jessen, Zürich
On Saturday 14 October 2006 06:26, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
i don't know if PDF supports non-static images. Links are supported by OpenOffice exports to PDF. In fact, text in the form http:/... are exported as links whether you want them to be or not. i've tried to disable them (or at least cause them to not be blue text with underlining) but haven't found a way to do so.
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again.
There is no way to control which computers a user copies a PDF to, nor a PDF-standard way to say "bind THIS password to THAT computer."
It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ... I used before an e-book compiler, but this one is based on Internet Explorer, therefore not useful to promote "how to avoid Windows" information, ...hehehehehehe
But it sounds like you're trying to promote exactly the behaviour for which we all avoid windows - lock-in.
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once.
OpenOffice scripting could certainly do something like this. Don't ask me how, but i'm quite certain it could be done with scripting.
4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
You can't do that, as far as i know. This feature would have to be implemented in every single PDF viewer, and it's simply not implemented in every viewer.
Any chance to do all or some of my wishes????
You're trying to apply lots of logic to the inside of a data file. By design, data files do not typically contain logic. The applications contain the logic to allow you to view the data. It sounds to me like you want to make your own document format and the software for editing/viewing it. Good luck! -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
On Saturday 14 October 2006 06:26, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. I want that the pages than are search able, can have links included, can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. It is open how to do that. It could be a call home function or a password depending on a hash over the used hardware, ... I used before an e-book compiler, but this one is based on Internet Explorer, therefore not useful to promote "how to avoid Windows" information, ...hehehehehehe
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page. I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once.
4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.)
Any chance to do all or some of my wishes????
bye
Ronald
Hi Ronald, Although I personally don't like the ideas of copy protecting, disallowing this and that... maybe http://www.pdfzone.com is of interest for you, especially the DRM article http://www.pdfzone.com/article2/0,1895,1876716,00.asp about how to make the portable documents unportable ;-) There is also http://www.pdfzone.com with a lot of info. Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
On Saturday 14 October 2006 18:05, Daniel Bauer wrote: ... second address should have been: http://www.planetpdf.com/ -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
The short answer is yes, you can do a lot of this. The way I would do this in SuSE is to use LaTeX with the hyperref package. This is a little harder than using (say) OpenOffice but is more flexible and produces much higher quality output than you can get from any word processor. I can send you an example pdf file to give you an idea. You probably need a manual to use LaTeX easily, though much of LaTeX is devoted to typesetting penalty copy. The book by Leslie Lamport is excellent. The LaTeX graphics Companion describes hyperref and pdfTeX (another way tof generating pdf) in detail. On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 12:26 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
1. I want to make "real" pdf files, not just pictures converted into pdf files. Both Openoffice and LaTeX do this. I want that the pages than are search able, LaTeX supports this through hyperref. can have links included, Both LaTeX and OpenOffice will do this. can have sound and movie files included (not sure if that is possible, if not than I would solve it with links) I'm not sure it's possible either within a PDF file, but you can certainly link to video and sound. How can I do that? Is there a program available under Linux?
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. I don't know if LaTeX or pdfTex offer these options but you could investigate. Probably you could use Acrobat to do the conversion for you from a PDF file you created.
You can use forms in LaTeX/hyperref and you could ask users for a password on the first page. That may be enough to do what you want, especially as no file is truly uncopiable.
3. I want to brand the pdf file, like with an additional page and info on each page.
Possible in both LaTeX and OpenOffice.
I am thinking on adding at an A4 page a small strip on the right side with this info. The original should be only A4, but the branded copies should be A4 plus 1 cm info at the right side (A4 is 297 x 210, the new pages should be 297 x 220). I am looking for a function convert original-book to branded-book with-info "That copy is for Alexander, brought to you by ...." to do that on each page at once. LaTeX is better designed to do this because word-processors are not designed to print regular information on sidemargins. 4. I want disallow to print the pages with the print function (I know with print screen you still can print it.) I don't know if you can do this.
-- JDL
John D Lamb wrote:
The short answer is yes, you can do a lot of this. The way I would do this in SuSE is to use LaTeX with the hyperref package. This is a little harder than using (say) OpenOffice but is more flexible and produces much higher quality output than you can get from any word processor.
Initially I looked at using LaTeX for generating PDFs, but found the learning curve much too steep when compared to openoffice. Also, IMHO the PDFs produced by OpenOffice can easily match the quality of those produced by e.g. LaTeX. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr5/month/user.
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 12:06, Per Jessen wrote:
John D Lamb wrote:
The short answer is yes, you can do a lot of this. The way I would do this in SuSE is to use LaTeX with the hyperref package. This is a little harder than using (say) OpenOffice but is more flexible and produces much higher quality output than you can get from any word processor.
Initially I looked at using LaTeX for generating PDFs, but found the learning curve much too steep when compared to openoffice. Also, IMHO the PDFs produced by OpenOffice can easily match the quality of those produced by e.g. LaTeX.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
... and Scribus offers a lot of pdf functionality, too ... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
Per Jessen schreef:
John D Lamb wrote:
The short answer is yes, you can do a lot of this. The way I would do this in SuSE is to use LaTeX with the hyperref package. This is a little harder than using (say) OpenOffice but is more flexible and produces much higher quality output than you can get from any word processor.
Initially I looked at using LaTeX for generating PDFs, but found the learning curve much too steep when compared to openoffice. Also, IMHO the PDFs produced by OpenOffice can easily match the quality of those produced by e.g. LaTeX.
LaTeX and OpenOffice are animals of a totally different kind. If you don't want to do anything really fancy you could use lyx (is in the Suse distro) as wysiwyg (almost) front end to LaTeX. Latest and greatest can be downloaded from the guru repository. Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704
On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 12:06 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
this in SuSE is to use LaTeX with the hyperref package. This is a little harder than using (say) OpenOffice but is more flexible and produces much higher quality output than you can get from any word processor.
Initially I looked at using LaTeX for generating PDFs, but found the learning curve much too steep when compared to openoffice. Also, IMHO the PDFs produced by OpenOffice can easily match the quality of those produced by e.g. LaTeX.
In fairness, comparing LaTeX with OpenOffice is like comparing a pipe organ with a saxophone. LaTeX is a professional typesetting system, probably the most powerful there is. It has better wordspacing and hyphenation. It types maths better and it gives access to a larger range of pdf features. It can also use any PostScript (and with some effort) any TrueType font and handle multiple-character ligatures while openoffice has difficulty with simple ligatures and em dashes. It also hnadles expert fonts much better. The price of this flexibility is a steeper learning curve, though it's not very hard to create a simple document. And most people prefer the output, especially if you use some of the PostScript fonts that most people prefer to computer modern roman. Sometimes OpenOffice is what you want, especially if you just want simple office documents or pdfs with limited features. A saxophone is probably easier to play well than a pipe organ, many people prefer the sound, and certainly it's a lot easier to carry around with you. -- JDL
On Friday 13 October 2006 23:26, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again. uh, I want to recommend a book to you...
"Free Software Free Society: selected essays of Richard M. Stallman" I am a believer in Copyleft-- all rights reversed. Stallman talks a lot about copyright law in general, copyleft concept, and freedom. I agree with Carlos' sentiment... linux, at least GNU/Linux is about freedom... in fact... I'm to the point where anything that needs to be copy protected--- I don't need. -- Kind regards, M Harris <><
Hello, [ Apologies for sending you a direct copy, M. Harris. You might consider removing the "Reply-To" from your outgoing list postings. ] On Sunday 15 October 2006 20:02, M Harris wrote:
On Friday 13 October 2006 23:26, Ronald Wiplinger wrote:
2. I want to make a pdf as copy protected, whatever that means in detail. I want to write information in pdf, but I want that the user can open it, with a password, but cannot copy it to another computer and open it there again.
uh, I want to recommend a book to you...
"Free Software Free Society: selected essays of Richard M. Stallman"
I am a believer in Copyleft-- all rights reversed.
Stallman talks a lot about copyright law in general, copyleft concept, and freedom. I agree with Carlos' sentiment... linux, at least GNU/Linux is about freedom... in fact... I'm to the point where anything that needs to be copy protected--- I don't need.
This seems to me a complete non-sequitur. We don't know what the OP's needs are beyond those he stated. Namely, the ability to protect access to a PDF document.. Surely you can accept that sometimes there is a need to publish documents and still restrict their distribution (or access to them, failing the ability to restrict the dissemination of the bits). Furthermore, a document is not a program. The arguments that Stallman puts forth w.r.t. to software do not necessarily apply to every imaginable published work. Lastly, I doubt the OP believes or wishes that you "need" his document.
M Harris <><
Randall Schulz
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