On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:57:59 PDT Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

Quanta on 7.3 is a text editor with superb highlighting better than programmers file editor. Is bluefish the WYSIWYG equivalent?

Neither Quanta and Bluefish are WYSIWYG. However the next version of Quanta will be (very Dreamweaver like) once the integration of the Kafka part is finish. You can get a semi working version if you check out Quanta CVS. Charles -- "Never make any mistaeks." (Anonymous, in a mail discussion about to a kernel bug report.)

Scott Jones wrote, On 08/03/2003 03:31 AM:

Aside from the fact that NS is, for all intents and purposes, no more, what they need to do with 4.x is drive a stake through it's heart, cut off it's head and bury it at the crossroads at midnight.

Though I would agree NS 4.x is dead, I wouldn't say NS is no more. I use NS 7.1, and it is quite nice, based on Mozilla 1.4. (It is even gcc 3.2 compiled from Netscape, nice for my 8.2.) It also has an html editor (Composer), though I also like and use Quanta. I would also agree, though, that the code should be standards based, and that is one main reason I use Quanta, as it seems better at this than Composer. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

just curious...how do these gui development tools compare with dreamweaver? I've seen and used it....it is VERY nice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl William Spitzer IV" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] CSS GUI Development tool in Linux?

Which means the current state requires having netscape 4.8 and quanta up and tabbing arround and checking with refresh your changes. If you want to get into websetting I suggest learning raw html4 coding and adding javascript and DHTML afterwards. If you have the big bucks go for O'Reilly books otherwise try the local discount chain for books published 1999 or later. No since in starting out with the latest most expensive books which assume you already read the older ones.

Start signing up for email lists from those sites hosting free scripts. Not everything which works in both NS4 and IE4 will work in Konquerer. Also beware of scripts which require NS6+ or are IE5.x only. they will limit your sites audience. Interesting 8.0 had NS6 but NS4.8 is part of 8.2.

I hope NS has the courage to open source the 4.8 and let us grow the browser for them.

CWSIV

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 02:12:57 -0500 Scott Jones writes:

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On Thursday 31 July 2003 22:58, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

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Quanta on 7.3 is a text editor with superb highlighting better

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programmers file editor. Is bluefish the WYSIWYG equivalent?

Neither Quanta and Bluefish are WYSIWYG.

<tongue align=cheek> Well, they're kinda WYSIWYG. WYSI raw HTML, WYG is a web page. </tongue>

-- Scott Jones (scott at exti dot net)

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just curious...how do these gui development tools compare with dreamweaver? I've seen and used it....it is VERY nice

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl William Spitzer IV" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] CSS GUI Development tool in Linux?

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Which means the current state requires having netscape 4.8 and quanta up and tabbing arround and checking with refresh your changes. If you want to get into websetting I suggest learning raw html4 coding and adding javascript and DHTML afterwards. If you have the big bucks go for O'Reilly books otherwise try the local discount chain for books

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1999 or later. No since in starting out with the latest most expensive books which assume you already read the older ones.

Start signing up for email lists from those sites hosting free

I have been trying Quanta. Its nice enough with its own display with <F6>. I think its better than the Win311 tools. I have not tried Dreamweaver and I hesitate to use any of the more "friendly" windows programs some of them install security holes. I beleive thats called bring coals to new castle. I note that much of the free JS scripts do not work in konquerer in 7.3 so if your doing developement I suggest Mozilla, and NS. Most of what will work there will work in IE. Though I am considering a joke page for the detection of IE which will direct the viewer to the NS ftp site and switch about ten seconds later. CWSIV On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:07:09 -0500 "pheonix1t" writes: published scripts.

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Not everything which works in both NS4 and IE4 will work in Konquerer.

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Also beware of scripts which require NS6+ or are IE5.x only. they will limit your sites audience. Interesting 8.0 had NS6 but NS4.8 is part of 8.2.

I hope NS has the courage to open source the 4.8 and let us grow the browser for them.

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