Java development on SuSE
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9. I went on the kaffe website (as it's supposed to be GPL'd) and they claimed there were suse rpms available but their link gives a 404 and searching in yast "install software" gives no results. Freebuilder development appears to have come to a halt as well. I'm about to download borland Jbuilder 9 personal (when the traffic dies down tommorrow morning when all the left sideans have gone to sleep), but I'm worried about it screwing up my perfectly working default Java runtime environment as came with SuSE 9. What I really want to be able to do is guarantee that programs I do develop with JBuilder run properly with the JRE that comes from Sun, but am not sure if there are any free (as in no cost as I'm strapped for cash being a penniless student type) gui development environments for the Sun java.
Hey Paul.I know all about being a penniless student. I'm currently using Netbeans 3.5.1 and that seems to work just fine. Here's the link to their download site. http://www.netbeans.org/downloads/ide/index.html Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Paul Cooke [mailto:pc005b5848@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:12 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Java development on SuSE I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9. I went on the kaffe website (as it's supposed to be GPL'd) and they claimed there were suse rpms available but their link gives a 404 and searching in yast "install software" gives no results. Freebuilder development appears to have come to a halt as well. I'm about to download borland Jbuilder 9 personal (when the traffic dies down tommorrow morning when all the left sideans have gone to sleep), but I'm worried about it screwing up my perfectly working default Java runtime environment as came with SuSE 9. What I really want to be able to do is guarantee that programs I do develop with JBuilder run properly with the JRE that comes from Sun, but am not sure if there are any free (as in no cost as I'm strapped for cash being a penniless student type) gui development environments for the Sun java. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 21 January 2004 23:11, Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
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What I really want to be able to do is guarantee that programs I do develop with JBuilder run properly with the JRE that comes from Sun, but am not sure if there are any free (as in no cost as I'm strapped for cash being a penniless student type) gui development environments for the Sun java.
You could try Eclipse http://www.eclipse.org/. I'm really not an expert but it seems a decent IDE and it works fine with my J2SDK1.4.2 from Sun (free d/l). Resulting applications seem ok running on other java JREs... Jake
Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I'm interested in this topic also. I have a project in mind and am thinking of using Java. I have heard good things about Eclipse and have downloaded it (http://www.eclipse.org/), but have not yet had time to really evaluate it. There are lots of free and pay plugins for it. I would be interested to know what you think of JBuilder. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
I have used JBuilder in the past, but only on a Windows platform. Never tried it on linux. I do have to admit though, it's a pretty damn good IDE for development. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Sabatke [mailto:jsabatke@execpc.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:35 PM To: SuSE Discussion Subject: Re: [SLE] Java development on SuSE Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I'm interested in this topic also. I have a project in mind and am thinking of using Java. I have heard good things about Eclipse and have downloaded it (http://www.eclipse.org/), but have not yet had time to really evaluate it. There are lots of free and pay plugins for it. I would be interested to know what you think of JBuilder. -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Jim, whilst I do not really have an opinion about JBuilder on Linux (even though I have been familiar with JBuilder on Windows), I can only encourage you to start using Eclipse. Not only is it open source, but there's plenty of contributions available in the form of plugins, whether XML-centric or for easy of deployment on Tomcat, etc. I am one of the committers of the Castor (JDO) open source project, and I am using Eclipse on SuSe 8.2 without any problems. Part of my daily work environment are Sun's JDK 1.4.2, Eclipse 3.0 milestone 6, Tomcat 4.1.x, mySQL, etc. Everything works out of the box, and install really is easy. Where Eclipse really shines is its tremendous support for code control and refactoring and UML. If you are into patterns, Eclipse has support for many of the original GOF patterns out of the box, and that's without having to spend several thousand dollars/pounds/euros for e.g the professional version of Together/J to get the same functionality. Werner On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:35:17 -0600, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I'm interested in this topic also. I have a project in mind and am thinking of using Java. I have heard good things about Eclipse and have downloaded it (http://www.eclipse.org/), but have not yet had time to really evaluate it. There are lots of free and pay plugins for it.
I would be interested to know what you think of JBuilder.
-- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Hi, I would suggest to consider also IBM Websphere Studio that is a very good IDE based on Eclipse and available also for Linux. You can find information and trial downloads at the following URL: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info1/websphere/index.jsp?tab=products/studio&S_TACT=103BGW01&S_CMP=campaign Best Regards Mario Pesce http://www.wisepenguin.com At 05:35 PM 1/21/04 -0600, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I'm interested in this topic also. I have a project in mind and am thinking of using Java. I have heard good things about Eclipse and have downloaded it (http://www.eclipse.org/), but have not yet had time to really evaluate it. There are lots of free and pay plugins for it.
I would be interested to know what you think of JBuilder.
-- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Mario Pesce wrote:
Hi,
I would suggest to consider also IBM Websphere Studio that is a very good IDE based on Eclipse and available also for Linux.
You can find information and trial downloads at the following URL:
Best Regards
Mario Pesce http://www.wisepenguin.com
Hmmm, anyone know of a neutral online comparison between IDEs? -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
Op donderdag 22 januari 2004 22:03, schreef Jim Sabatke:
Mario Pesce wrote:
Hi,
I would suggest to consider also IBM Websphere Studio that is a very good IDE based on Eclipse and available also for Linux.
You can find information and trial downloads at the following URL:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info1/websphere/index.jsp?tab=products/st udio&S_TACT=103BGW01&S_CMP=campaign
Best Regards
Mario Pesce http://www.wisepenguin.com
Hmmm, anyone know of a neutral online comparison between IDEs?
Perhaps kdevelop: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=features.html Language Support 15 supported languages including Ada, C, C++, Objective-C (via C support), SQL, Fortran, Haskell, Java, PHP, Pascal, Perl, Python, Ruby, Bash, XUL (unofficially). -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:11:51PM +0000, Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
Eclipse is included with SuSE 9.0 Pro, and Netbeans is a free download. http://www.netbeans.org http://www.eclipse.org HTH, Victor
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:11:51PM +0000, Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I use JBuilder Personal 9.0 from Borland for any quick and dirty programs. It's free and written in Java so it's somewhat agnostic of desktop environment.
On Monday 26 January 2004 2:10 pm, expatriate wrote:
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 11:11:51PM +0000, Paul Cooke wrote:
I'm considering geting into Java but have become slightly confused as to what is available as an IDE of Suse 9.
I use JBuilder Personal 9.0 from Borland for any quick and dirty programs. It's free and written in Java so it's somewhat agnostic of desktop environment.
thanks to everyone so far :)
I've gone for Eclipse as it's supplied with SuSE9 pro which is what I've got.
I was tempted with JBuilder personal, but wasn't sure if it would mess up my
existing java environment so I chickened out.
I've got netbeans installed as well, but found it impossible to install as
root so that all users could access it. Even when the installer was copied
into and launched in the required java DK directory with the correct command
line option telling it where the java DK was
$ ./NetBeans.bin -is:javahome
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