According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem? Paul Abrahams
Have a try with v-com products (formerly ontrack). I use Partition commander, because it's really less expensive than other identical products, and was never deceived. HTH Le Lundi 23 Février 2004 17:44, Paul W. Abrahams a écrit :
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
Paul Abrahams
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Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
Paul Abrahams
I found that I had that problem with partition magic some times but also found that it ran OK providing I booted from the PM floppy disks I created. It only seemed to freeze and/or refuse to read the partition when it was run from within windows. I also use qtparted. There are two good sources for this and they are the knoppix and the system rescue disk ISOs, they both have worked fine for me. The URLs are: http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php http://www.knoppix.com/
I like Partition Expert from Acronis. It is win/dos based, but works great with linux. Less expensive than PM. Jim Flanagan On Tuesday 24 February 2004 00:42, Neville Cobb wrote:
Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
Paul Abrahams
I found that I had that problem with partition magic some times but also found that it ran OK providing I booted from the PM floppy disks I created. It only seemed to freeze and/or refuse to read the partition when it was run from within windows.
I also use qtparted. There are two good sources for this and they are the knoppix and the system rescue disk ISOs, they both have worked fine for me. The URLs are:
http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php http://www.knoppix.com/
linuxjim wrote:
I like Partition Expert from Acronis. It is win/dos based, but works great with linux. Less expensive than PM.
Jim Flanagan
I've tried Acronis and have experienced 2 difficulties. One when I made a few changes to a drive and it crashed leaving all sorts of problems. The other is that I found it harder to see the logical paritions within the extended. When creating another logical I couldn't tell if it was in in the extended or whether it was creating another primary (it was not obvious on the screen).
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 02:25 am, linuxjim wrote:
I like Partition Expert from Acronis. It is win/dos based, but works great with linux. Less expensive than PM.
Jim Flanagan
And it uses a linux kernel at the heart of it... which is why they can support so many file systems. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 02/24/04 09:56 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "I've learned- that you can keep puking long after you think you're finished."
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 2:25 am, linuxjim wrote:
I like Partition Expert from Acronis. It is win/dos based, but works great with linux. Less expensive than PM.
Well, I already have PM and I'm reluctant to go out to buy another piece of software with no particular assurance that it will be of any help in solving my quite specific problem. I suppose that at least for diagnostic purposes it would be helpful to know the data structures on a hard drive that specify how it's partitioned, given that Linux thinks there's nothing wrong with it and both PM and Ranish think it's corrupted. Ranesh at least can read it; PM rejects it. PM has worked well for me except in cases where it can't interpret the partition information at all. Paul Abrahams
Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
Well, I already have PM and I'm reluctant to go out to buy another piece of software with no particular assurance that it will be of any help in solving my quite specific problem. I suppose that at least for diagnostic purposes it would be helpful to know the data structures on a hard drive that specify how it's partitioned, given that Linux thinks there's nothing wrong with it and both PM and Ranish think it's corrupted. Ranesh at least can read it; PM rejects it. PM has worked well for me except in cases where it can't interpret the partition information at all.
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ has a lot of good tools. The one I use isn't free and doesn't run from Linux though: http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee.htm URL below might be helpful too. -- "I place economy among the first and most important of republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared." President Thomas Jefferson Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html
The Monday 2004-02-23 at 22:44 -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
PM and linux programs seem to dissagree on some partition concepts. PM may say that a certain table is wrong and linux progrs find the same perfect. You also have fdisk and sfdisk - see the note at the end of "man fdisk" for a comparison. fdisk has a "v" verify command, by the way. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Tuesday 24 February 2004 11:02 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
PM and linux programs seem to dissagree on some partition concepts. PM may say that a certain table is wrong and linux progrs find the same perfect.
My impression is that cfdisk will accept anything that PM churns out, but not conversely. I would really like to understand the specifics of the disagreement.
fdisk has a "v" verify command, by the way.
I tried it on the drive that PM rejected, and fdisk indicated it's OK (by displaying the number of unallocated sectors). Paul Abrahams
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2004-02-23 at 22:44 -0500, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
PM and linux programs seem to dissagree on some partition concepts. PM may say that a certain table is wrong and linux progrs find the same perfect.
You also have fdisk and sfdisk - see the note at the end of "man fdisk" for a comparison.
fdisk has a "v" verify command, by the way. I have to correct you there Carlos, at least on 9.0
The verify command exists only on sfdisk as -V, not on fdisk/cfdisk. It cannot be -v as on fdisk version v2.11z under 9.0 the -v option gives you the version, as it states in the man pages. Confirm or tell the student he's is smoking grass please. TIA -- The Little Helper ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Licenced ex-Windows user (apart from Quicken) Registered Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Currently using SuSE 9.0 Professional with KDE 3.1 ========================================================================
* Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
It cannot be -v as on fdisk version v2.11z under 9.0 the -v option gives you the version, as it states in the man pages.
Confirm or tell the student he's is smoking grass please.
Definitely grass, probably enhanced with something stronnngggg. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Thursday 26 February 2004 4:34 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
[02-26-04 12:56]: It cannot be -v as on fdisk version v2.11z under 9.0 the -v option gives you the version, as it states in the man pages.
Confirm or tell the student he's is smoking grass please.
Definitely grass, probably enhanced with something stronnngggg.
Actually it's the v command from within fdisk -- close but no cigar. Paul Abrahams
The Thursday 2004-02-26 at 13:00 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
fdisk has a "v" verify command, by the way. I have to correct you there Carlos, at least on 9.0
The verify command exists only on sfdisk as -V, not on fdisk/cfdisk.
It cannot be -v as on fdisk version v2.11z under 9.0 the -v option gives you the version, as it states in the man pages.
Confirm or tell the student he's is smoking grass please.
X'-) I was not referring to a command line option, but to a command once the program has started; available commands are displayed entering "m": | u change display/entry units | v verify the partition table <---------- | w write table to disk and exit | x extra functionality (experts only) Of course, I don't have 9.0, they could have changed it - I don't know. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2004-02-26 at 13:00 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
fdisk has a "v" verify command, by the way.
I have to correct you there Carlos, at least on 9.0
The verify command exists only on sfdisk as -V, not on fdisk/cfdisk.
It cannot be -v as on fdisk version v2.11z under 9.0 the -v option gives you the version, as it states in the man pages.
Confirm or tell the student he's is smoking grass please.
X'-)
I was not referring to a command line option, but to a command once the program has started; available commands are displayed entering "m":
| u change display/entry units | v verify the partition table <---------- | w write table to disk and exit | x extra functionality (experts only)
Of course, I don't have 9.0, they could have changed it - I don't know. My apologies sir.. I misunderstood where you were using the syntax :|
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www.knoppix.com Version 3.3 date 2-9-2004 contains QTparted which you run from console as root. Look and feel similar to PM. CWSIV On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 19:44, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:
According to a couple of different partitioning programs (Partition Magic and Ranesh), something is seriously wrong with the partition table on my second hard drive. Partition Magic can't even list its contents. Nevertheless neither cfdisk nor Yast finds anything wrong with it. Are there any other Linux partitioning programs that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem?
Paul Abrahams
On 29 Feb 2004 17:27:35 -0800
Carl William Spitzer IV
www.knoppix.com Version 3.3 date 2-9-2004 contains QTparted which you run from console as root.
Look and feel similar to PM. I really like QTParted. Some features that PM8 does not have, such as recognition and resizing or Reiserfs. Also note that I loaded QTParted on my SuSE system, and it had some serious bugs, but the version on the Knoppix is stable.
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Jerry Feldman
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Bruce Marshall
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Carl William Spitzer IV
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Carlos E. R.
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Felix Miata
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Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
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Jerry Feldman
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linuxjim
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Neville Cobb
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Patrick Shanahan
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Paul W. Abrahams
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Yves Baudrier