On Friday 29 Oct 2010 21:04:50 Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Friday, 2010-10-29 at 18:09 +0100, Bob Williams wrote:

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My CD/DVD drive has recently become only partially visible to applications. I use a Windows program, EAC (Exact Audio Copy) running under wine, to rip audio CDs, but it has recently stopped seeing my CD drive. I installed grip, to see if it was a wine problem, but this also can't read audio CDs in the drive. Well, it does very briefly as the drive gets mounted, in other words I see the list of tracks flash on and then off again. Grip can eject CDs, so the drive isn't completely invisible.

My guess is that some other tool is grabbing the unit. Any of those automatic automounter tools in kde or gnome. Set them to not intervene - details vary depending on desktop.

I use KDE. I tried disabling automounting of removable devices in System Settings, but it didn't make any difference :( Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi Carlos, On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 03:48:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Friday, 2010-10-29 at 22:46 +0100, Bob Williams wrote:

El 2010-10-29 a las 22:46 +0100, Bob Williams escribió:

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On Friday 29 Oct 2010 21:04:50 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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My guess is that some other tool is grabbing the unit. Any of those automatic automounter tools in kde or gnome. Set them to not intervene - details vary depending on desktop.

I use KDE. I tried disabling automounting of removable devices in System Settings, but it didn't make any difference :(

Not only the automounter, but also the gadgets that grab the reader if an audio cd is detected, then the other one that grabs it if it sees a movie, then the other one that... you see the trend? :-)

Yes, I see the trend, but I don't know what do with it :( Must have stayed up too late last night. I've looked for Configuration/Settings in each multimedia app, but nowhere is there a setting to stop each app from mounting/loading the contents of the drive. I know you use Gnome, but perhaps if you could be a bit more specific about what you would do there, I could translate it into KDE-ese. Many thanks. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 13:00:07 Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Saturday, 2010-10-30 at 11:55 +0100, Bob Williams wrote:

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On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 03:48:05 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Not only the automounter, but also the gadgets that grab the reader if an audio cd is detected, then the other one that grabs it if it sees a movie, then the other one that... you see the trend? :-)

Yes, I see the trend, but I don't know what do with it :( Must have stayed up too late last night.

I've looked for Configuration/Settings in each multimedia app, but nowhere is there a setting to stop each app from mounting/loading the contents of the drive. I know you use Gnome, but perhaps if you could be a bit more specific about what you would do there, I could translate it into KDE-ese.

I'll try, but I don't know the equivalent KDE names.

In gnome, I go to the control center, and in the "look and feel" section there is an item named "removable drives and media", without icon. This dialog has tabs for storage, multimedia, cameras, pdas, printers and input devices.

Storage has entries for browsing and mounting devices when inserted, or burning blank dvds. The multimedia tab has entries for playing audio cds when inserted, or pay video if a video cd/dvd is inserted, or play music when a portable player is inserted.

You see, it is quite complete, although sometimes I'd like more fine grain.

Many thanks, Carlos. I think the KDE System Settings > Removable Devices (configure automatic handling of removable storage media) is equivalent to your Gnome Control Centre > Look and Feel > Removable Drives and Media. I have tried disabling all autoplay options here, without changing EAC's or grip's ability to read the contents of the drive. In fact EAC cannot even see the hardware, let alone read the contents of the inserted media. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 15:25:46 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Bob Williams [10-30-10 08:29]:

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I have tried disabling all autoplay options here, without changing EAC's or grip's ability to read the contents of the drive. In fact EAC cannot even see the hardware, let alone read the contents of the inserted media.

then you probably have a failing drive/cable/controller.

Wouldn't that affect KsCD or (s)mplayer playing audio CDs? Or the device notifier detecting a disc in the drive and offering me options? Or Firefox reading the Linux Magazine DVD in the drive? Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 16:18:15 Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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Wouldn't that affect KsCD or (s)mplayer playing audio CDs? Or the device notifier detecting a disc in the drive and offering me options? Or Firefox reading the Linux Magazine DVD in the drive?

Bob

It's possible. But if you have a loose cable somewhere, information could be sporadic. Instead of questioning a plausible idea from a guy attempting to help, how about cracking the case and taking a look?

Fair enough. Both power and data cables secure, no difference after removing and reseating them at both ends (well, not the power cable where it emerges from the PSU). In the configuration wizard for EAC, it says "EAC detected the following drive(s) in your system. Please select which drives EAC should autoconfigure." But the list is empty. On the other hand, K3b can interrogate the drive without difficulty. -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 01:11:10 Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

On 10/30/2010 11:48 AM, Bob Williams wrote:

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In the configuration wizard for EAC, it says "EAC detected the following drive(s) in your system. Please select which drives EAC should autoconfigure." But the list is empty.

On the other hand, K3b can interrogate the drive without difficulty.

I occasionally use a program in Wine, DVDFab, and it doesn't find the cd drom either til I manually mount it. Does EAC find it if you mount the drive then run EAC?

I shall need to brush up on the mount command to remember how to do that. What fstype is an audio CD? But it never used to need these extra steps. I've used EAC for several years, and it always finds the hardware automatically. IOW, start EAC, put an audio CD in the drive and the EAC window is immediately populated with the tracks on the CD, including length, size, gap length, etc. Something has changed in the last 3 weeks. -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 12:37:30 Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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I shall need to brush up on the mount command to remember how to do that. What fstype is an audio CD?

But it never used to need these extra steps. I've used EAC for several years, and it always finds the hardware automatically. IOW, start EAC, put an audio CD in the drive and the EAC window is immediately populated with the tracks on the CD, including length, size, gap length, etc.

Something has changed in the last 3 weeks.

mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom-device /mnt/mountpoint

It's possible during one of the updates something somewhere got changed.

barrowhillfarm:~ # mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so barrowhillfarm:~ # dmesg | tail [77787.635996] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [77787.636010] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] [77787.636017] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track [77787.636028] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 64 [77787.636105] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16 I'm not sure what the above means. -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 13:25:24 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Bob Williams [10-31-10 09:19]:

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I'm not sure what the above means.

are you a member of group "cdrom"?

16:50 barrowhillfarm:~> groups users wheel video music vboxusers No. Those earlier commands (to mount the cdrom) were executed as root. -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.2 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.31.14-0.1-desktop, KDE 4.5.2 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 10/31/2010 09:18 AM, Bob Williams wrote:

barrowhillfarm:~ # mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so

This happens with every audio CD? WHen I mount an audio cdrom using $ mount /dev/sr0 it mounts it fine for me...... What if you don't specify a mount type and just do # mojnt /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom ? -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi; On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Bob Williams wrote:

As root:

barrowhillfarm:~ # mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: you must specify the filesystem type

An audio cd has no filesytem. It cannot be mounted. Regards; Ismail -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi; On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Bob Williams wrote:

On Sunday 31 Oct 2010 16:58:08 İsmail Dönmez wrote:

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Hi;

On Sunday, October 31, 2010, Bob Williams wrote:

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As root:

barrowhillfarm:~ # mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: you must specify the filesystem type

An audio cd has no filesytem. It cannot be mounted.

Regards; Ismail

Just to muddy the waters, I've upgraded from 11.2 to 11.3. This required using the CD/DVD drive to writet the .iso file, using K3B, as well as reading from the drive to perform the upgrade. All went well, and I am now booted into 11.3 (but with KDE 4.4.4 ATM).

I can happily report that EAC now works again, and is able to read audio CDs.

 :)

Ah thats good news! Regards, ismail -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org