I would like to install Suse Linux on a Pentium 1 90 mhz 32mb system. I realize that with only 32 mb of memory I can not use Yast. I hope to use this system as a basic Lunix learning tool and possibly as a Samba and/or Apache server. I don't plan on using any GUI (KDE, GNOME, etc.), strictly command line. I also have an older Toshiba notebook with that has a Pentium II and 32 mb memory. I'd like to put Linux on that, just to play with / learn Linux. With this system I also assume I would not be able to use Yast (needs 64 mb memory) and would probably have to use the command line. Is this possible? Am I crazy to try installation without Yast? Can Samba and Apache run effectively on a low end Pentium with only 32 mb memory? I thank you for any suggestions and comments. Matt
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:52:56 -0800
"Matt Stamm"
I would like to install Suse Linux on a Pentium 1 90 mhz 32mb system. I realize that with only 32 mb of memory I can not use Yast. I hope to use this system as a basic Lunix learning tool and possibly as a Samba and/or Apache server. I don't plan on using any GUI (KDE, GNOME, etc.), strictly command line.
I also have an older Toshiba notebook with that has a Pentium II and 32 mb memory. I'd like to put Linux on that, just to play with / learn Linux. With this system I also assume I would not be able to use Yast (needs 64 mb memory) and would probably have to use the command line.
Is this possible? Am I crazy to try installation without Yast? Can Samba and Apache run effectively on a low end Pentium with only 32 mb memory?
Yeah, it's all possibe. I've done it on a p-100 with 32 megs ram. Tips: 1. Use the second cdrom to boot and choose "text mode install' 2. Install minimum system without X, then work on installing X after you are running from the command line. 3. Apache runs good. Although you could try a lightweight httpd server. On http://freshmeat.net search for "monkey" or "cherokee". -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:52:56AM -0800, suselist@jemka.com wrote:
I would like to install Suse Linux on a Pentium 1 90 mhz 32mb system. I realize that with only 32 mb of memory I can not use Yast. I hope to use this system as a basic Lunix learning tool and possibly as a Samba and/or Apache server. I don't plan on using any GUI (KDE, GNOME, etc.), strictly command line.
I also have an older Toshiba notebook with that has a Pentium II and 32 mb memory. I'd like to put Linux on that, just to play with / learn Linux. With this system I also assume I would not be able to use Yast (needs 64 mb memory) and would probably have to use the command line.
Is this possible? Am I crazy to try installation without Yast? Can Samba and Apache run effectively on a low end Pentium with only 32 mb memory?
You can't install SuSE without YaST, but you can run YaST in text mode. You might have a bit of a problem getting SuSE 8.x on; you'll almost certainly have to do some manual partitioning to get a swap partition. I have SuSE 7.2 running as my mailserver on a 486 DX2/66 with 32 MB; it was initially installed and running on 16 MB, but whenever I received a big batch of email, the combination of processing that mail, and the regular Mailman queue runner caused the machine to swap itself into oblivion. If you can find extra memory, put it in. Otherwise, you should probably be able to do it, but it'll be a tight squeeze if you want to use 8.1. HTH... -- David Smith Work Email: Dave.Smith@st.com STMicroelectronics Home Email: David.Smith@ds-electronics.co.uk Bristol, England GPG Key: 0xF13192F2
A little off base... -When did SuSE get so bloated to REQUIRE 64Mb's of memory and so much HD space? I remember installing 6.4 and being able to de-select almost every package and having it VERY usable in text mode. -Does anyone know why a ftp install takes so much ram? Possibly in-efficient programming? The ftp client is so small and so are teh network drivers. I think SuSE needs to trim the fat around their installer program. I still have many low-end machines that make excellent one-task machines (dns server, dhcp server, web server... etc.) and im disappointed SuSE's os and install programs are becoming resource hungry. If i could install the machine I can trim it down as much as i want...but if i cant even install it... :( On Tuesday 11 March 2003 07:55 am, Dave Smith wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:52:56AM -0800, suselist@jemka.com wrote:
I would like to install Suse Linux on a Pentium 1 90 mhz 32mb system. I realize that with only 32 mb of memory I can not use Yast. I hope to use this system as a basic Lunix learning tool and possibly as a Samba and/or Apache server. I don't plan on using any GUI (KDE, GNOME, etc.), strictly command line.
I also have an older Toshiba notebook with that has a Pentium II and 32 mb memory. I'd like to put Linux on that, just to play with / learn Linux. With this system I also assume I would not be able to use Yast (needs 64 mb memory) and would probably have to use the command line.
Is this possible? Am I crazy to try installation without Yast? Can Samba and Apache run effectively on a low end Pentium with only 32 mb memory?
You can't install SuSE without YaST, but you can run YaST in text mode.
You might have a bit of a problem getting SuSE 8.x on; you'll almost certainly have to do some manual partitioning to get a swap partition.
I have SuSE 7.2 running as my mailserver on a 486 DX2/66 with 32 MB; it was initially installed and running on 16 MB, but whenever I received a big batch of email, the combination of processing that mail, and the regular Mailman queue runner caused the machine to swap itself into oblivion.
If you can find extra memory, put it in. Otherwise, you should probably be able to do it, but it'll be a tight squeeze if you want to use 8.1.
HTH...
-- #------------------------ #Eric Bambach #Eric@CISU.net #------------------------
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:29:04 -0600
Eric
A little off base... -When did SuSE get so bloated to REQUIRE 64Mb's of memory and so much HD space? I remember installing 6.4 and being able to de-select almost every package and having it VERY usable in text mode. -Does anyone know why a ftp install takes so much ram? Possibly in-efficient programming? The ftp client is so small and so are teh
I feel the same way as you....nostalgia for the good old simple install. I don't think it's inefficient programming; it's more "catering to the market". Most of the installs are going on modern equipment, with the minimum 64 megs ram,(even that is small nowadays); and those doing the installations want a easy "point and click" install like a MS install. No thinking needed. You just boot right up into X, and get on the internet. I'm amazed how alot of new linux users don't even know they can hit <control-alt-F1-6> and get a real console. I think the new yast2 sucks, but I'm sure each release will improve it. The same thing happens every major upgrade. The *.1 versions always are a little hard to deal with, then by *.3 and *.4 everyone is happy. You still can choose "bare minimum install without X", and then manually remove a hundred megs or so. It would be nice to have a yast2 option of "expert manual install --manual selection of packages --nodependencies checked --nothing installed automatically". That would be kind of like the old days. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
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