Re: [opensuse] Errors sending to Opensuse@opensuse.org
On 6/28/07, Jerry Houston
John Bennett wrote:
On 6/28/07, Anders Johansson
wrote: On Wednesday 27 June 2007 13:34:02 John Bennett wrote:
What's the go here? I'm not sending to anything like that address (hansabetrug@yahoo.de)??
Indirectly you are. The list server forwards your mail to all subscribers with you as the sender, which means that if there's a problem with a subscriber, you get the error message.
Forward the error message to opensuse-owner@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
But I only get it when I send from my Thunderbird client in Suse - if I send directly from Gmail it doesn't happen....?
For what it's worth, gmail is, well ... , different. I'm on a couple of other mailing lists where lots of users are on gmail because of the way it stores their mail and handles threads. But a common complaint is that gmail seems to eat messages from them. That is, they post to the list, and everyone else can see what they posted, but the only way they see their own message again is if someone else replies and quotes it.
I tried it, didn't like it, and prefer to use my ISP account and Thunderbird. It's reassuring to see what I've posted to the lists, at the same time everyone else does.
Maybe something like that is going on here?
Yep, now that you mention it, I don't get my own mail either. But the HUGE advantage of GMail is when you move ISPs, and don't have to stuff around changing email addresses, which I have been doing in the last few days.... :-( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 28. Juni 2007 00:46 schrieb John Bennett:
Yep, now that you mention it, I don't get my own mail either. But the HUGE advantage of GMail is when you move ISPs, and don't have to stuff around changing email addresses How often does a normal user change his ISP? Beside there are other freemail providers around the web :) (no critism, just a thought - whoever is happy with Gmail should stay with it)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-06-28 at 08:46 +1000, John Bennett wrote:
But I only get it when I send from my Thunderbird client in Suse - if I send directly from Gmail it doesn't happen....? ... it stores their mail and handles threads. But a common complaint is that gmail seems to eat messages from them. That is, they post to the ... Yep, now that you mention it, I don't get my own mail either. But the
Gmail removes what /he/ thinks are duplicates. After you send an email to the list, the list sends back a copy of that email to you - but as it has the same ID, gmail deletes it. If somebody replies to all on the list, are you are one of those in the "to" or "cc" list, you will only receive the copy that arrives first, the rest are erased. So, if the bounce has the same ID, it will be romved before you see it. Another bug/feature of gmail. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGguu5tTMYHG2NR9URAgvlAJ9OLwjeR+eBSAgTezMpS+l1WYa83wCfds05 oji8DQhFcIF4/IS1baJJkKE= =vLyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Carlos E. R.
Gmail removes what /he/ thinks are duplicates. After you send an email to the list, the list sends back a copy of that email to you - but as it has the same ID, gmail deletes it.
If somebody replies to all on the list, are you are one of those in the "to" or "cc" list, you will only receive the copy that arrives first, the rest are erased.
So, if the bounce has the same ID, it will be romved before you see it.
Another bug/feature of gmail.
But if you relay thru your own isp and only use the gmail "From:" address, you will still receive your own postings to the list :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-06-27 at 21:52 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Another bug/feature of gmail.
But if you relay thru your own isp and only use the gmail "From:" address, you will still receive your own postings to the list :^)
Of course, of course. Still, it is a nuisance that duplicate removal. In some situations it makes you think you didn't receive something which in fact you did - or rather, gmail received and erased without telling you. That's a no-no for a good email provider. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGgx3UtTMYHG2NR9URAht5AKCUcJ6cJKAMapnluh0GkAQvOKD4oACdElTO r4knncEI9yt+gupQ2H2er4I= =qqxq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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John Bennett
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Michael Skiba
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Patrick Shanahan