Using Linux/SuSE at the Desktop--Telnet or X?
Dear SuSE Wizards, I have sold an application for years that has a *nix backend but traditionally terminals or PC with terminal emulators running Telnet clients at the front end. What do I use if I want to run Linux at the Desktop with Linux at the Server? Basically, I think I'm looking for a Telnet Client like what is offered by the James River Group but not for windoze but for Linux. Any ideas? Is there something already in there that does a nice job? (I am familiar with Putty and it is decent, but I'm looking for a few more bells and whistles so that it might even be GUI. TIA -- Andrew Lietzow The ACL Group, Inc.
Andrew Lietzow wrote:
Dear SuSE Wizards,
I have sold an application for years that has a *nix backend but traditionally terminals or PC with terminal emulators running Telnet clients at the front end. What do I use if I want to run Linux at the Desktop with Linux at the Server?
Basically, I think I'm looking for a Telnet Client like what is offered by the James River Group but not for windoze but for Linux.
Linux, in fact all Unixes, come with a telnet client as standard. It'll be installed as a matter of course when you install practically any distribution except perhaps the most starved of embedded systems. Just type "telnet <hostname>" at a console prompt. However, the use of Telnet is not encouraged in this day and age as it offers zero security - everything, including the password you use to log into the remote machine, is passed down the line in clear-text. These days ssh is more to be preferred. All server/workstation linux distributions that I know of also include OpenSSH to do this job. Think of ssh as telnet with encryption, plus a few other tricks, like X forwarding (simplifying running X applications on remote machines). You don't need to have any ssh-aware support in your server-side application - people can just log in using ssh and run it in the same way as they'd log in using telnet and run it. kssh, part of KDE, is a simple but friendly GUI front-end to ssh. However, for your application it would be simpler and nicer just to create a KDE application shortcut that puts them straight into the remote application - ie: with an Execute line something like "ssh <hostname> <application>" and select "Run in terminal window". Then users just have to click on that button on their desktop and they're in - especially if you set up keys and a keychain rather than requiring them to enter passwords. If the console app ever gets replaced by a GUI app, it's easy just to add in a "-X" in front of the hostname and don't run in a terminal window, and it should run seamlessly. -- Rachel
I'm not sure what you want to do. All Linux systems come with telnet clients as well as tools like ssh for secure logins. Also, Linux has a complete set of X servers et. all so you can run X applications on the server with the display on your desktop. On 22 May 2002 at 12:16, Andrew Lietzow wrote:
Dear SuSE Wizards,
I have sold an application for years that has a *nix backend but traditionally terminals or PC with terminal emulators running Telnet clients at the front end. What do I use if I want to run Linux at the Desktop with Linux at the Server?
Basically, I think I'm looking for a Telnet Client like what is offered by the James River Group but not for windoze but for Linux.
Any ideas? Is there something already in there that does a nice job? (I am familiar with Putty and it is decent, but I'm looking for a few more bells and whistles so that it might even be GUI.
TIA
-- Andrew Lietzow The ACL Group, Inc.
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I think I know what you want, something which does telnet "pretty" rather than just telnet, allows you to setup the system using a gui tool rather than environment variables and so on. The closest i've found in linux is gnome-telnet, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be in suse8. you can download it from http://www.cyest.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4 as an rpm though, you will need to install it with rpm -ivh --nodeps gnome-telnet*.rpm because one of the required packages is named differently in suse (itll still work, as long as you have ssh installed). it supports telnet and ssh, which is the preffered system now (and again your linux server will support it "out of the box". Ewan On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 20:10, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I'm not sure what you want to do. All Linux systems come with telnet clients as well as tools like ssh for secure logins. Also, Linux has a complete set of X servers et. all so you can run X applications on the server with the display on your desktop.
On 22 May 2002 at 12:16, Andrew Lietzow wrote:
Dear SuSE Wizards,
I have sold an application for years that has a *nix backend but traditionally terminals or PC with terminal emulators running Telnet clients at the front end. What do I use if I want to run Linux at the Desktop with Linux at the Server?
Basically, I think I'm looking for a Telnet Client like what is offered by the James River Group but not for windoze but for Linux.
Any ideas? Is there something already in there that does a nice job? (I am familiar with Putty and it is decent, but I'm looking for a few more bells and whistles so that it might even be GUI.
TIA
-- Andrew Lietzow The ACL Group, Inc.
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Dear Ewan and SuSE wizards, Yes, you are correct. I am aware of all of the CUI type telnet clients and was looking for something "pretty" and as close to GUI as possible. The Jame River Group product is very good (TelnetPro), providing a lot of nice features, but not really supporting SSH in their TelnetPro version just yet (on Linux). I'll check out this gnome-telnet and see how it looks, both above and under the hood.... Thanx!!! Andrew Lietzow The ACL Group, Inc. On Wednesday 22 May 2002 03:45 pm, Ewan Leith wrote:
I think I know what you want, something which does telnet "pretty" rather than just telnet, allows you to setup the system using a gui tool rather than environment variables and so on.
The closest i've found in linux is gnome-telnet, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be in suse8. you can download it from http://www.cyest.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4 as an rpm though, you will need to install it with rpm -ivh --nodeps gnome-telnet*.rpm because one of the required packages is named differently in suse (itll still work, as long as you have ssh installed).
it supports telnet and ssh, which is the preffered system now (and again your linux server will support it "out of the box".
Ewan
On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 20:10, Jerry Feldman wrote:
I'm not sure what you want to do. All Linux systems come with telnet clients as well as tools like ssh for secure logins. Also, Linux has a complete set of X servers et. all so you can run X applications on the server with the display on your desktop.
On 22 May 2002 at 12:16, Andrew Lietzow wrote:
Dear SuSE Wizards,
I have sold an application for years that has a *nix backend but traditionally terminals or PC with terminal emulators running Telnet clients at the front end. What do I use if I want to run Linux at the Desktop with Linux at the Server?
Basically, I think I'm looking for a Telnet Client like what is offered by the James River Group but not for windoze but for Linux.
Any ideas? Is there something already in there that does a nice job? (I am familiar with Putty and it is decent, but I'm looking for a few more bells and whistles so that it might even be GUI.
TIA
-- Andrew Lietzow The ACL Group, Inc.
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