On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:46:18 +1100 Basil Chupin wrote:

On 05/11/11 17:30, Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:14:10 +1100 Basil Chupin wrote:

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I have my home directory encrypted.

A couple of hours ago I did an update of my installation (11.4, 32-bit, KDE) which included an update to the kernel and what-ever and now suddenly my encrypted home directory shows up(in the taskbar) as a separate, mounted, device. Also, it shows up in Dolphin twice: as a 362GB Encrypted Container and again as a 362GB Hard Drive.

Is this something which was an intended result of the updates or is it something which has gone awry? Anyone know?

BC

Hi Basil,

If "I did an update" describes a normal, plain vanilla, 'online update' to fetch and install security& bug patches, did you remember to restart the system after the kernel update?

Hi Carl,

Thanks for your response.

You're welcome!

I rather expected an answer from someone which stated, "Yes, this is a new way it will be done in the future". Or "Ooops, not the intended result of [my/our] fiddling with what worked perfectly for years" :-) .

Did you get a response other than mine? I don't recall seeing one.

Having my encrypted home partition showing up as a separate device does not worry me as the system is still working correctly and without any crashes.

So your problem is 'fixed' in the sense that it's functioning properly? That's good! It's just presented differently in the UI than it had been, previously?

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If "I did an update" describes an effective change of distribution from the stock 11.4 + normal updates to something different, like Tumbleweed or Trinity, etc., that's another matter, entirely, and only you can answer your question in the subject line, "What happened?" :-)

Hmmmm, your reference here to Tumbleweed does not bode well for Tumbleweed..... Are you saying that all the effort being put into Tumbleweed is a waste of time because if one uses it for what it is intended, as I understand its intention to be, then "all bets are off", as they say in the moving pictures, and anyone using Tumbleweed will be ignored when they mention a problem?

I made no assertions concerning Tumbleweed; merely pulled the name from thin air as part of a separate line of questioning: What 'flavor' of oS were you running /before/ you applied the updates, and, what were the specific updates that you applied? I guess these questions were the central point of my response. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

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And you neglected to mention which KDE version.

regards,

Carl

I am using, and have been for many weeks, 11.4 with kernel (when I wrote my question, just updated to) 3.1.0 and KDE (also updated at that same time to) 4.7.3[.x].

BC

So, in the end, you acknowledge that you are /not/ running a 'stock' or 'standard' openSUSE 11.4 installation, which questions are appropriate for this list. Instead, you are experimenting with kernel 3.1.0 on 11.4... Why not ask at http://forums.opensuse.org/english/ or on opensuse-factory? regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:39:09 -0600 "David C. Rankin" wrote:

Sheeze! And I thought I was the one that resisted progress in refusing to be a 4-year beta tester for KDE4....

There needs to be clear identification of those openSuSE devs who are involved in tumbleweed AND who are willing to tackle bugs associated with it. This mentality of "We won't help because 'it's build service' or 'it's tumbleweed' has got to be a thing of the past if we are going to harness all resources moving into the future." Ironing out tumbleweed so it becomes a seamless system of packing upstream releases and updating 'openSuSE' will need everyone involved.

So who/what are/is the goto people/bugzilla for problems with tumbleweed?

Hi David, Could you please start a new thread when changing topics? This thread was /not/ about KDE or Tumbleweed. Thx! Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/08/2011 07:13 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 09/11/11 11:39, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 11/07/2011 11:46 PM, Basil Chupin wrote: <snip>

So who/what are/is the goto people/bugzilla for problems with tumbleweed?

Hi David,

Have you read this?:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog...

BC

Thanks Basil, Priceless. The absolute very best part of the thread is this part: <quote> Comments StarTrek foretold the past way.....now@gmail.com Nov 09, 2011 12:37am GMT Sorry, but I'd have to do the death scene from StarTrek, when Khan goes bat-guano -crazy spewing the epic death scene from Moby Dick. I really REALLY came to despise KDE. I was seeing REAL cpu hoggage going on from some of the stupid information gathering schemes running that I couldn't turn off nor remove. I really don't care for some daemon to waste 24 hours reading and indexing my files and documents. Then Unity appeared... Joachim: Our shields are dropping. Khan: Then raise them! Joachim: [pounds fists on console] I can't! Khan: The override. Where's the override? Joachim: There isn't one, we're running KDE! Khan: To the last, I will grapple with thee... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee! </quote> We have seen the ebb and flow, back and forth, between community and developers in all distros over time. We have see the very worst corporatization has to offer and the best that spinoff and fragmentation can offer. Maintaining the middle-ground is what we should all shoot for. Tumbleweed is the way of the future. Rotating release offers such enormous cost saving from a distro standpoint, all distros will end up with the model for development with frozen slices at appropriate times offered for commercial long term support (the $LTS version). This is a win for the community and a win for the distro. When opensuse only has 'opensuse' to support as a community project and not (opensuse 11.2, opensuse 11.3 and opensuse 11.4), the developer talent currently locked into 'maintaining' community versions can be freed to develop 'the' community version. Arch Linux is a shining example of how this model works and how a distro with 1/1000th the resources as opensuse can be no more than 3-days behind upstream with a comparable package offering. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org