Re: [opensuse] ZFS on SuSE-anyone, Mac Has it...
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (not to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder).. It appears Apple has found a way to release ZFS as part of Snow Leopard: http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/11/2028220 Not sure this is germane but it seem interesting. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:23:43 John Andersen wrote:
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (not to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder)..
Fires can do both. A simmering fire is one that has just started, but hasn't caught yet, hasn't reached its full strength. A smoldering fire is one that is chugging along at low strength - "no flame, but with lots of smoke" is how the dictionary puts it. Usually the last stage of a fire, when the oxygen has been used up
It appears Apple has found a way to release ZFS as part of Snow Leopard:
Hardly surprising. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, which is BSD licensed. The CDDL is compatible with the BSD license Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Anders Johansson
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:23:43 John Andersen wrote:
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (not to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder)..
Fires can do both. A simmering fire is one that has just started, but hasn't caught yet, hasn't reached its full strength.
In my (limited) experience, simmering applies to cooking of food, not the state of a fire. Perhaps usage is different in the EU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simmering -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:49:18 John Andersen wrote:
In my (limited) experience, simmering applies to cooking of food, not the state of a fire. Perhaps usage is different in the EU.
wikipedia is never a reliable source http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi- bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=simmer 2 a: to be in a state of incipient development google "simmering fire" and you'll find that it's not commonly used, but it is used by some respectable sources Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 14:23, John Andersen wrote:
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (note to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder)..
It appears Apple has found a way to release ZFS as part of Snow Leopard:
FreeBSD is licensed under the BSD open-source license, not GPL, so presumably the issues are not precisely the same. There are too many things named Mach for me to readily discover what is the license for the Mach used in Mac OS X.
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/11/2028220
Not sure this is germane but it seem interesting.
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John Andersen wrote:
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (not to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder)..
It appears Apple has found a way to release ZFS as part of Snow Leopard:
Mac OS is BSD...and the BSD license is basically this: "University of California Berkeley owns this code. You can use it, and do whatever you want with it, but WE own it."
Not sure this is germane but it seem interesting.
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Evens Garde escribió:
the BSD license is basically this: "University of California Berkeley owns this code. You can use it, and do whatever you want with it, but WE own it."
No, the University of California does not own code released under a BSD license. -- "Progress is possible only if we train ourselves to think about programs without thinking of them as pieces of executable code.” - Edsger W. Dijkstra Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Evens Garde escribió:
the BSD license is basically this: "University of California Berkeley owns this code. You can use it, and do whatever you want with it, but WE own it."
No, the University of California does not own code released under a BSD license.
Please find any BSD code WITHOUT the following string: "Copyright, Regents of the University of California at Berkeley" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 22:59, Evens Garde wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Evens Garde escribió:
the BSD license is basically this: "University of California Berkeley owns this code. You can use it, and do whatever you want with it, but WE own it."
No, the University of California does not own code released under a BSD license.
Please find any BSD code WITHOUT the following string:
"Copyright, Regents of the University of California at Berkeley"
I think the distinction is that any developer can choose to release code under the BSD license, but in doing so certainly does not have to assign the copyright to The Regents of the University of California. But software developed by employees of the U.C. system, regardless of license, has its copyright held by The Regents of the University of California. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Andersen wrote:
And further fuel to the allegedly simmering fire (not to Jim, fires don't simmer, they smolder)..
It appears Apple has found a way to release ZFS as part of Snow Leopard:
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/11/2028220
Not sure this is germane but it seem interesting.
http://www.wizy.org/wiki/ZFS_on_FUSE The CDDL is incompatible with the GPL, so until that it changed, it will never be in the kernel. I don't expect Sun to change its licensing terms to aid a direct competitor to Solaris. We expect to have other options, such as btrfs, available in the not-too-distant future. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhR/GIACgkQLPWxlyuTD7LgTACeI15IisUDr6X4FWHBNdm5iJzq 7KIAn3xBnqSMb8FwWVK3kl9IOGLMpK4d =YQEa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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