** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy. Just recieved my pkg 8.1 ... I'm "updating" a testbed to see what happens <G> but it seems, so far, easy peasy and the only thing that might give a reletive newbie any pause is the "conflict" resolutions ... So that is where I will look for dificulties , when it's completeed. Most Omonshiroii is that it says there is more than 1hr to go on the first disk ! That's a lot of stuff on one disk !... Of course the update would take more than a first time install as.. there is a lot of stuff on that box that is only there to try out befire deploying, or someone said this was "cool , what to you think" ? Or attempts to get really new betas ( in some cases alphas ) to install and or run w/ various configurations .. and other general junque... But I can't believe no one commented on the "flip pak" packaging of the disks yet.. so far I've had two reactions completely oposing views "That's really cool" or "I don't like that at all" ... I suspect it will depend on more useage before there is a definative result ... ( for a clean install it should be a really nice package ... that's my own opinion as well as to add software since you only need to have access to one or two disks then... I still wish I had the capability to use the dvd .. a real set and forget install then <VBG> -- j afterthought Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't drink and drive?
jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy.
Just recieved my pkg 8.1 ...
*sigh*. It looks like the people of Northern Neptune will get 8.1 before me. Yet again.
I'm "updating" a testbed to see what happens <G> but it seems, so far, easy peasy and the only thing that might give a reletive newbie any pause is the "conflict" resolutions ... So that is where I will look for dificulties , when it's completeed.
Most Omonshiroii
I'm sorry, but I can't even begine to guess what that means :)
is that it says there is more than 1hr to go on the first disk ! That's a lot of stuff on one disk !...
Updates always take a lot longer than clean installs. There's usually a lot to do besides just installing packages. Such as determining which packages to install/update and removing the old ones. With a slow disk that can take aeons.
I still wish I had the capability to use the dvd .. a real set and forget install then <VBG>
Or you could copy the contents of the CDs to a hard drive and install from there. /me wants 8.1 //Anders
On Friday 11 October 2002 04:00 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy.
Just recieved my pkg 8.1 ...
*sigh*. It looks like the people of Northern Neptune will get 8.1 before me. Yet again.
There's an upside to that. You have all the basic gotchas handled on the mailing list. I've already foud a few pointers about working around a quirk in the new YOU. I think there were a couple other issues already treated that I found answers to simply by looking over the postings here.
Most Omonshiroii
I'm sorry, but I can't even begine to guess what that means :)
I don't think it's French.
is that it says there is more than 1hr to go on the first disk ! That's a lot of stuff on one disk !...
Updates always take a lot longer than clean installs. There's usually a lot to do besides just installing packages. Such as determining which packages to install/update and removing the old ones. With a slow disk that can take aeons.
I'd like to benchmark a DVD install against an over the net on switched 100-BaseT Eathernet.
I still wish I had the capability to use the dvd .. a real set and forget install then <VBG>
Or you could copy the contents of the CDs to a hard drive and install from there.
How does that work? I've glanced at that, but never really understood it. Do you just create a partition which will be left out of the original install, copy the DVD (or CDs) there, mount it with a manual install, and let it rip? That may actually prove very fast if you have two harddrives. One for the DVD image, and one for the installation.
/me wants 8.1
After there was a sniper attack in both towns where I'm most likely to shop for it, and it wasn't available there on the 7th, I simply ordered it on the net. It took about 3 days to get here.
//Anders
STH
hattons@speakeasy.net wrote:
On Friday 11 October 2002 04:00 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy.
Just recieved my pkg 8.1 ...
*sigh*. It looks like the people of Northern Neptune will get 8.1 before me. Yet again.
There's an upside to that. You have all the basic gotchas handled on the mailing list.
That's not an upside. I like problem solving. Imagine how boring life would be if every problem had been solved.
Updates always take a lot longer than clean installs. There's usually a lot to do besides just installing packages. Such as determining which packages to install/update and removing the old ones. With a slow disk that can take aeons.
I'd like to benchmark a DVD install against an over the net on switched 100-BaseT Eathernet.
Unless you have a really crappy harddrive, I'd bet the net install would win hands down.
I still wish I had the capability to use the dvd .. a real set and forget install then <VBG>
Or you could copy the contents of the CDs to a hard drive and install from there.
How does that work? I've glanced at that, but never really understood it. Do you just create a partition which will be left out of the original install, copy the DVD (or CDs) there, mount it with a manual install, and let it rip?
Yes, something like that. I use an nfs mount on another computer, so it won't be touched by the install at all. //Anders
On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 17:48, Anders Johansson wrote:
There's an upside to that. You have all the basic gotchas handled on the mailing list.
That's not an upside. I like problem solving.
Imagine how boring life would be if every problem had been solved.
Hey, I just bought 8.1 today and I like problem solving, too! However, I don't like solving the same problem over and over from release to release. I can't get the (SuSE advertised) wireless WEP wizard in SuSE 8.1 to accept anything but key [1] while my card and hub use key [4]. I modified the ifcfg-eth-pcmcia-0 file by hand to include key number, but the SuSE scripts choked on it. Is anyone using a wireless orinoco with a WEP key other than key [1]? I spent a great deal of energy on this when 8.0 came out and I don't get paid enough to debug it again ;) P.S. Sorry about the thread hijack, Anders, but it tied in nicely with problem solving. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Sing blue silver Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
On Friday 11 October 2002 15:18, Keith Winston wrote: On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 17:48, Anders Johansson wrote: > > There's an upside to that. You have all the basic gotchas > > handled on the mailing list. > > That's not an upside. I like problem solving. > > Imagine how boring life would be if every problem had been solved. Hey, I just bought 8.1 today and I like problem solving, too! However, I don't like solving the same problem over and over from release to release. I can't get the (SuSE advertised) wireless WEP wizard in SuSE 8.1 to accept anything but key [1] while my card and hub use key [4]. I modified the ifcfg-eth-pcmcia-0 file by hand to include key number, but the SuSE scripts choked on it. Is anyone using a wireless orinoco with a WEP key other than key [1]? I spent a great deal of energy on this when 8.0 came out and I don't get paid enough to debug it again ;) P.S. Sorry about the thread hijack, Anders, but it tied in nicely with problem solving. Best Regards, Keith Wow! I was just posting my request for help and just sent it right when this came out. There is a wireless WEP wizard in SuSE 8.1? Please, if possible, could you tell me how you accessed that? I'm trying without success to get a DWL-650 card working with 8.1. Glen
On Fri, 2002-10-11 at 18:20, Glen wrote:
Wow! I was just posting my request for help and just sent it right when this came out. There is a wireless WEP wizard in SuSE 8.1?
Please, if possible, could you tell me how you accessed that? I'm trying without success to get a DWL-650 card working with 8.1.
If you go into YaST2, Network/Basic, and Add a new network card, one of the buttons at the bottom of screen (after hostname, routing, etc) is called "Wireless". Here, you can enter your Mode, ESSID, WEP key, etc and these values are stored in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-ethx-pcmcia-x where the x's depend on the number of other cards defined in your system. Good luck getting the key to work, though, unless you use the 1st key on your hub/card. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Sing blue silver Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
Anders Johansson
There's usually a lot to do besides just installing packages. Such as determining which packages to install/update and removing the old ones.
By far the most time is spent in updating the rpm database. Philipp -- Philipp Thomas work: pthomas@suse.de Development SuSE Linux AG private: pth@t-link.de
I have the Sound Blaster Live value card and the sound on my system works...to a degree (SuSE 8.1, 2.5 GHz w/ 1 gig RAM). However, KMix has no bearing on the settings; I can't control volume, base, treble, CD...nothing. I have to manually adjust the sound levels via the speakers. ALSA is loaded and I have no idea what to do to get the sound control back to KMix. Any ideas? TIA! Zach
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