[opensuse] Upgrade to OpenSUSE 11
I had a machine hard drive go south so I upgraded that machine to opensuse 11. I have other machines in my lab and I want to upgrade them from 9.1 to 11.0. I have tried to find some information in the documentation, but I couldn't find a thread. My highest priority is to have smooth running machines. Is it better to start from a bare hard drive and reinstall everything or to upgrade the current installation if this is even possible? Will it keep all/some of my applications/settings? If the answer is written somewhere point me near it and I will ferret out the answer myself. I appreciate your help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 2008-10-02 at 00:13 -0700, Ray Madigan wrote:
I had a machine hard drive go south so I upgraded that machine to opensuse 11. I have other machines in my lab and I want to upgrade them from 9.1 to 11.0. I have tried to find some information in the documentation, but I couldn't find a thread. My highest priority is to have smooth running machines.
Is it better to start from a bare hard drive and reinstall everything or to upgrade the current installation if this is even possible?
Will it keep all/some of my applications/settings?
If the answer is written somewhere point me near it and I will ferret out the answer myself. I appreciate your help.
I don't think you can upgrade on one step, nor easily. You will have to go by jumps or one, two, perhaps 3 versions. As the distance increases so does "glitches". On the admin book of each version you can read the known issues when upgrading to that version. And after each jump, you have to review the resulting system, specially the *rpm* config files. Get a full backup done first. Ah! Notice that on an upgrade, if the onlines repos are not found, any package that was previously installed and is not found on the dvd, is removed from the resulting system. And 9.x I think could not use both the dvd and the online repo. For instance, mysql is removed, and you have to install it again; luckily, the configuration and databases are not removed. So you should save a list of installed rpms and review the final result manually. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjkf10ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9U9lQCdHltZs52vPjPVcw2SMJ2SY5Pu rZwAnjvmWZNHIB37nfa69uBNsqCpiTDg =3GaT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ray Madigan skrev:
I had a machine hard drive go south so I upgraded that machine to opensuse 11. I have other machines in my lab and I want to upgrade them from 9.1 to 11.0. I have tried to find some information in the documentation, but I couldn't find a thread. My highest priority is to have smooth running machines.
Is it better to start from a bare hard drive and reinstall everything or to upgrade the current installation if this is even possible?
Will it keep all/some of my applications/settings?
If the answer is written somewhere point me near it and I will ferret out the answer myself. I appreciate your help.
Hi Generally, a "clean new install" is (in my optics) preferable to any upgrade. It's easy to keep most settings, bookmarks and all if the existing install has a separate /home partition. This way, one may elect to new-install - reusing (i.e. NOT formatting) the /home partition. If one doesn't have a separate /home partition, you could "rsync -avz" the entire /home to some external storage, then new-install (partitioning with a separate /home for future installs...) and hence copy the home files back into place. Not elegant, but it has worked for me. Perhaps some others on the list?? -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Ray Madigan skrev:
I had a machine hard drive go south so I upgraded that machine to opensuse 11. I have other machines in my lab and I want to upgrade them from 9.1 to 11.0. I have tried to find some information in the documentation, but I couldn't find a thread. My highest priority is to have smooth running machines.
Is it better to start from a bare hard drive and reinstall everything or to upgrade the current installation if this is even possible?
Will it keep all/some of my applications/settings?
If the answer is written somewhere point me near it and I will ferret out the answer myself. I appreciate your help.
Hi if its any help, I attempted an upgrade from 9.1 to 10.3 but ended up with a lot of dependency problems and did not succeed. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 2008-10-02 at 10:02 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Generally, a "clean new install" is (in my optics) preferable to any upgrade. It's easy to keep most settings, bookmarks and all if the existing install has a separate /home partition.
Not true if you have a number of system configurations: postfix, amavis, mysql, apache... I find an upgrade preferable. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjkj9wACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XMPgCaA1xgH5aHWs4nzIX55ktQ0CKT AugAnRQloQ0WRicgepHJMfc66gC7fk01 =yfO1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:39:44 Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Thursday 2008-10-02 at 10:02 +0200, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
Generally, a "clean new install" is (in my optics) preferable to any upgrade. It's easy to keep most settings, bookmarks and all if the existing install has a separate /home partition.
Not true if you have a number of system configurations: postfix, amavis, mysql, apache... I find an upgrade preferable.
Personally, I would be backing up /etc, /home and perhaps /usr/share (some apps keep config files under that path). Format and do a clean reinstall, then restore app-specific configs from the previous version. I wouldn't blindly copy /home back - just the data files. Some of the config files are likely to have changed between 9.x and 11.x so it is safer (IMHO) to allow 11.0 to recreate all the user-specific configs (all the dot directories). That is just my preference. I did this recently from 10.3 to 11.0 on my work laptop with zero major problems and just a couple of minor glitches that were easily resolved (so minor that I can't even remember specifically what they were). Hope this helps. -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au ===================================================
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 2008-10-02 at 20:33 +0930, Rodney Baker wrote:
Not true if you have a number of system configurations: postfix, amavis, mysql, apache... I find an upgrade preferable.
Personally, I would be backing up /etc, /home and perhaps /usr/share (some apps keep config files under that path).
I'd do a full backup in any case. For instance, if it happens that the new version doesn't work on your machine, you can go back to the old version easily.
Format and do a clean reinstall, then restore app-specific configs from the previous version. I wouldn't blindly copy /home back - just the data files. Some of the config files are likely to have changed between 9.x and 11.x so it is safer (IMHO) to allow 11.0 to recreate all the user-specific configs (all the dot directories).
That is just my preference. I did this recently from 10.3 to 11.0 on my work laptop with zero major problems and just a couple of minor glitches that were easily resolved (so minor that I can't even remember specifically what they were).
I upgraded from 10.3 to 11.0 without any major glitches :-) However, I would hesitate to do 9.1->11.0, even in steps: Not in one jump, because it would be surely problematic. Not in steps, because it would take days. As an experiment, yes, of course. Or if bored. Or if there are too many configurations (a server). It is certainly possible in steps: my machine has been upgraded from 8.x upwards. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjkrd0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V1dACfWnkCmLd1LR7VSx1nYBm1HhSr 9NgAniglFeIKSg8iDIZcp+63zk8tVn7T =WA9B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ray Madigan wrote:
I had a machine hard drive go south so I upgraded that machine to opensuse 11. I have other machines in my lab and I want to upgrade them from 9.1 to 11.0. I have tried to find some information in the documentation, but I couldn't find a thread. My highest priority is to have smooth running machines.
Is it better to start from a bare hard drive and reinstall everything or to upgrade the current installation if this is even possible?
Will it keep all/some of my applications/settings?
If the answer is written somewhere point me near it and I will ferret out the answer myself. I appreciate your help.
If you have a standard lab config for all of the machines and the hardware is reasonably similar on those machines I would look at. a) creating a new clean config and test it thoroughly... b) cloning it c) rolling the clone out to the other machines... If there are differences, identify what is common to all, identify the differences on each machine then clone the common component, and apply differences as appropriate. This may save a lot of grief in the long run. You could also use this as an opportunity to standardise a few things if you have not done so already.. Of course backup everything in sight (in at least twice in different ways :-) ). A loooong time ago I got caught when after backing up and zapping a machine only to find the backup was toast... Never again!... Its all in the preparation ... :-) - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjkk3kACgkQasN0sSnLmgJiswCgvKyTAKnV1zwUZ+KdsAIauttS mYEAniUZXYsDEeMRnR+1bc7mmlJhbkxk =DQut -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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