On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:30:11PM +1100, Peter Flodin wrote:

It was even worse before 10.1 because openSUSE the project created SUSE Linux OSS, and Novell distributed SUSE Linux.

I am slowly warming to the idea to leave things as they are now.

Now that the SUSE and SUSE OSS is gone, I also would like to leave it as it is. Otherwise you could start confusing people more. The retail version will always be SUSE. Just keep repeating that openSUSE is the comunity and SUSE is the distribution. Wether people will go woth it is something I doubt. Many people still write SuSE instead of SUSE, no matter how often you explain it to them. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:52:53AM +0100, jdd wrote:

may be keeping writing "openSUSE project" in place of a bare "opensuse" anywhere in the wiki.

Only if you are talking about an openSUSE project. openSUSE community is what this is about, the people. Not everything a comunity does is a project, although many things will be. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

Just keep repeating that openSUSE is the comunity and SUSE is the distribution. Wether people will go woth it is something I doubt. Many people still write SuSE instead of SUSE, no matter how often you explain it to them.

But SuSE is so much nicer then SUSE :-).

may be keeping writing "openSUSE project" in place of a bare "opensuse" anywhere in the wiki.

My idea. That would link OpenSuSE (ow no, thats bReEzAh) with the word 'project' in peoples mind. Conclusion: - Keep it SUSE so 'OpenSUSE' looks nice - Talk about OpenSUSE-project at the wiki' s Someone that does not like that? Azerion

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 07:46:57PM +0000, Thomas Hertweck wrote:

You can explain that hundreds of times, I know the facts, and I will nevertheless write "SuSE" most of the time (and I guess, the same holds for many other people as well). That acronym has been used for many many years (I think it started with something like "S.u.S.E.") - if the brand name changes after such a long time, I don't think it's a big surprise that people still use the old one. And, my personal opinion, I really prefer "SuSE" over "SUSE", from my point of view it was a bad decision changing the name. SuSE was really a unique combination of characters (with a certain meaning, at least when you're familiar with the German language) and that's what a brand name should be. SUSE just looks as if somebody shouts something at you without any real content...

For me it is a kind of respect to honour the way the person wants it to be written. SuSE decided to go to SUSE. That was their decision and wether I like it or not, I respect their choice. So my preference is unimportand. To be honest I like suse much better, because I don't have a CAPS-LOCK key. The fact that it is houghi and not Houghi predates that and was a reaction to usernanames written in h4X0R style. I agree that it will take a while. It is just strange that people are so reluctant to use it, even if they are explained that the choice has been made. If somebody decides to go though life a Ben instead of Benjamin, I asume you respect that as well. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist aber mehr als Werk und Arbeit, und das Sein wichtiger als das Tun - Johannes Müller-Elmau

So why do you start to compare now apples and oranges? I begin to think that you really believe you have to fire off a reply to every email on the opensuse mailing list[1] *sigh*.

I did not like H either after he flamed a newbie. BUT as you can read in multiple mail-conversations he is not that bad. He had good questions in the IRC-meeting (hey, I missed *you*), he does post his mind and so it may be a bit better if you stay relax, dont start that war and if you do not like H. then stop responding to him. I do not force you. If you want that war then start replying in the Kernel-topic ;-) H0ugH1, if I dont count that flame and see thru the way you post you' re critics some time....you are a valuable member of the OpenSUSE-project-community ;-) So, I have saved my ass for a while. Have a nice day Th0m4s, and keep it cewl. We do not want to break eachother down, we try to build something..and sometimes you need to break a rock before it turns into a usable stone.....keep that in mind. 4z3R10N H4x0R