[opensuse] Firefox, Xine and Kaffeine
My system, openSUSE 11.0, 32-bit, is always up-to-date, using openSUSE's update facility (zypper). No hardware has been changed on my system for the past several years. I am using Firefox which is the openSUSE version (currently SUSE/3.0.1-7.2 Firefox/3.0.1), and also using the latest Xine and Kaffeine. I have been using this combination (except for the version numbers of course) for years without any problems. Until recently - say past 3 weeks or so (I've been interstate a few times in this period so my timing of events is sort of "shot" :-) ). Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles". The audio is not affected, just the picture. None of this occurred in the past - until, as I stated, recently. However, as soon as I shut down (the openSUSE version of) Firefox the problem with the TV disappears and audio and video are back in sync and behaving as they ought to. This same problem occurs whether I am using (the latest) KDE3.x or KDE4.x. The only common factor seems to be Firefox. Anyone else noticed this behaviour? Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-09-11 at 16:37 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
The audio is not affected, just the picture.
None of this occurred in the past - until, as I stated, recently.
However, as soon as I shut down (the openSUSE version of) Firefox the problem with the TV disappears and audio and video are back in sync and behaving as they ought to.
Start one of those applets that display CPU ussage, and check if the disturbances coincide with cpu spikes. Just an idea. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjIxMcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Xo8ACeOv+rWq//cDx8O3qc7DASMBzO 34UAn33dtWrTi9JpEv7FXYV21E4v9YFy =tITO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2008-09-11 at 16:37 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
The audio is not affected, just the picture.
None of this occurred in the past - until, as I stated, recently.
However, as soon as I shut down (the openSUSE version of) Firefox the problem with the TV disappears and audio and video are back in sync and behaving as they ought to.
Start one of those applets that display CPU ussage, and check if the disturbances coincide with cpu spikes. Just an idea.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
Thanks, will check this out at the first opportunity (off interstate again in the morning so this test will have to wait until I return). Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage. It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 11 September 2008 11:20, Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage.
It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there.
Or check the setting for compiz. For some reason it messes with mine so I got rid of it. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 12:20pm up 8 days 22:46, 4 users, load average: 1.13, 1.27, 1.98 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mike wrote:
On Thursday 11 September 2008 11:20, Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage.
It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there.
Or check the setting for compiz. For some reason it messes with mine so I got rid of it.
Mike
Thanks for the suggestion but I don't have any part of compiz engaged. I just checked. In fact, with the TV going qt the moment and Firefox running I just realised that my typing (of this message) is all "hiccups" with letters appearing on the screen moments after they have they been typed on the keyboard. Come t think of it, I also noticed over the past weeks that when I play Freecell (part of KDE games) I often cannot move the cards which simply jump around when clicked on. Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage.
It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there.
Cheers, Dave
Thanks for this suggestion. Will try it out as soon as I am able. However, cannot really see why this should be done because, as I stated, the standard version of Firefox, with Javascrtipt and Flash, have not caused any hassles before. Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks for this suggestion. Will try it out as soon as I am able. However, cannot really see why this should be done because, as I stated, the standard version of Firefox, with Javascrtipt and Flash, have not caused any hassles before.
You didn't have a problem before, either! You don't know what's changed to create the problem. Either of these features can use CPU and it's only a mouse click to turn them off :) Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks for this suggestion. Will try it out as soon as I am able. However, cannot really see why this should be done because, as I stated, the standard version of Firefox, with Javascrtipt and Flash, have not caused any hassles before.
You didn't have a problem before, either! You don't know what's changed to create the problem. Either of these features can use CPU and it's only a mouse click to turn them off :)
Cheers, Dave
True :-) . But Javascript or Flash have not changed for some many weeks, certainly not in the period I am referring to when the hassles with the TV began. Nevertheless, I will do the test of turning both off to see what the result is. Ciao. -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-09-11 at 21:09 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote:
only a mouse click to turn them off :)
Cheers, Dave
True :-) .
But Javascript or Flash have not changed for some many weeks, certainly not in the period I am referring to when the hassles with the TV began.
It is easy to find out what you have installed and when: rpm -q -a --queryformat "%{INSTALLTIME}\t%{INSTALLTIME:day} \ %{BUILDTIME:day} %-30{NAME}\t%15{VERSION}-%-7{RELEASE}\t%{arch} \ %25{PACKAGER}\n" | sort | cut --fields="2-" | less -S The list is sorted, most recent at the bottom. I know there have been java updates recently. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjJYRQACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XS1QCfVOOYbZ4Yh+K/QY/toyU9hVEb uycAnieCyDUM/Er77OBM/01pTXVsK2GO =reBB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2008-09-11 at 10:20 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage.
It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there.
Curiously, I had a similar problem in 10.3; now I have 11.0 but I still haven't tested this: when watching an .avi movie in xine the sound would stop for a second or two (not the video) when firefox was busy auto-updating a page with javascript. He has the opposite problem, sound stopping. And it is affecting typing ans such, too. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjI/MMACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WPowCglWtMj0GHQJlc6d96CY6v6WJt IhEAoI7RWlGuo3g49UsaC/Li+WZUChV/ =0utP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2008-09-11 at 10:20 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Since some upgrades to something, what is now occurring is that while I am watching (digital) TV using either Xine or Kaffeine and also have Firefox running on anothere Desktop (with a couple or three tabs 'open'), the TV picture freezes, stutters, shakes, "rattles".
I agree with Carlos' suggestion of monitoring CPU usage.
It might also be worth turning off Javascript and/or Flash in Firefox and see if the problem is still there.
Curiously, I had a similar problem in 10.3; now I have 11.0 but I still haven't tested this: when watching an .avi movie in xine the sound would stop for a second or two (not the video) when firefox was busy auto-updating a page with javascript.
He has the opposite problem, sound stopping. And it is affecting typing ans such, too.
Just remembered that I should have included this info in my earlier post: I have set the buffers as per the suggestions in the xine documentation for best performance namely, AUDIO = 400 buffers and VIDEO = 800 buffers (see xine Settings/Setup/Engine) -- I have enough RAM to be able to do this and, as I already stated, this has served me well over the past years. [Kaffeine also uses the xine engine, BTW.] Ciao -- It's not possible to operate honestly using a basis of dishonesty. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Dave Howorth
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Mike