Brad Bendily
I have recently setup Suse 9.0 on a machine and configured it to be used as a Kiosk station. I used ReiserFS as the file systems on my 3 partitions I created. Since I've the machine up we have had two power outages. The problem is that when the machine starts up again the file systems don't get mounted and I get brought to the root login prompt and get asked to login and run fsck (or reiserfsck). And it trys to replay journals and do all that stuff. The first time it happened I recovered and it all worked. Today when it happened it wiped out my /home partition and everything was lost. Mostly.
I have my work desktop setup with ext3 partitions and the same power outage didn't affect this box.
I thought ReiserFS should be able to handle the instant reboots. Should I convert the kiosk PC to ext3? Or am I missing something in my ReiserFS setup? I'm having very similar problems resulting in my filesystems containing /var and /home being corrupted several times - very disappointing.
Making an "reiserfsck --rebuild-tree" gives me most of the file systems back but I always end up with a bunch of files in lost+found and some really lost files. I'm using SuSE 9.0, kernel 2.4.21-202-default. The file systems are created on volumes of lvm-1.0.7-105, and the file systems use reiserfs-3.6.9-33. On an IBM T40 thinkpad which of course shouldn't matter. Any hint would be highly appreciated.
Brad B-- CLE
Regards, -- Ejnar
I'm having very similar problems resulting in my filesystems containing /var and /home being corrupted several times - very disappointing.
Making an "reiserfsck --rebuild-tree" gives me most of the file systems back but I always end up with a bunch of files in lost+found and some really lost files.
I'm using SuSE 9.0, kernel 2.4.21-202-default. The file systems are created on volumes of lvm-1.0.7-105, and the file systems use reiserfs-3.6.9-33. On an IBM T40 thinkpad which of course shouldn't matter.
Any hint would be highly appreciated.
I was having similar problems and it turned out to be an overloaded/old power supply. After replacing the PS all filesystem problems disappeared. If you have an older PC and have added newer larger hard drives, they will use more power and add more strain to the older PS. Also adding more devices over the years will add to the strain. Just an FYI. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
On Thursday 29 April 2004 09:40, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
I'm having very similar problems resulting in my filesystems containing /var and /home being corrupted several times - very disappointing.
Making an "reiserfsck --rebuild-tree" gives me most of the file systems back but I always end up with a bunch of files in lost+found and some really lost files.
I'm using SuSE 9.0, kernel 2.4.21-202-default. The file systems are created on volumes of lvm-1.0.7-105, and the file systems use reiserfs-3.6.9-33. On an IBM T40 thinkpad which of course shouldn't matter.
Any hint would be highly appreciated.
I was having similar problems and it turned out to be an overloaded/old power supply. After replacing the PS all filesystem problems disappeared.
If you have an older PC and have added newer larger hard drives, they will use more power and add more strain to the older PS. Also adding more devices over the years will add to the strain.
That just doesn't make sense. Newer drives use LESS power than the original drives. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Thursday 29 April 2004 11:01 pm, John Andersen wrote:
I was having similar problems and it turned out to be an overloaded/old power supply. After replacing the PS all filesystem problems disappeared.
If you have an older PC and have added newer larger hard drives, they will use more power and add more strain to the older PS. Also adding more devices over the years will add to the strain.
That just doesn't make sense. Newer drives use LESS power than the original drives.
John
Depends. If you compare like sizes and speeds then maybe the newer drive uses less power. If you upgrade to a larger capacity and/or faster speed then it probably uses more power than what it replaced. Power supplies tend to lose their vigor over time. Adding additional devices to them over the years may cause problems. Weak power masquerades as all kinds of symptoms that can be very misleading and difficult to troubleshoot. Stan
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, S.R.Glasoe wrote:
On Thursday 29 April 2004 11:01 pm, John Andersen wrote:
I was having similar problems and it turned out to be an overloaded/old power supply. After replacing the PS all filesystem problems disappeared.
If you have an older PC and have added newer larger hard drives, they will use more power and add more strain to the older PS. Also adding more devices over the years will add to the strain.
That just doesn't make sense. Newer drives use LESS power than the original drives.
John
Depends. If you compare like sizes and speeds then maybe the newer drive uses less power. If you upgrade to a larger capacity and/or faster speed then it probably uses more power than what it replaced.
Power supplies tend to lose their vigor over time. Adding additional devices to them over the years may cause problems. Weak power masquerades as all kinds of symptoms that can be very misleading and difficult to troubleshoot.
This is all well and good, but the machine having the problem is brand new and the drive isn't that big. So I don't really think it's a power supply issue. It works ok, until the power goes out then reiserFS doesn't recover. It's a journaling file system and therefore should be able to survive when it is not shutdown properly. Right? BB
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 09:59, Brad Bendily wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, S.R.Glasoe wrote:
Depends. If you compare like sizes and speeds then maybe the newer drive uses less power. If you upgrade to a larger capacity and/or faster speed then it probably uses more power than what it replaced.
Power supplies tend to lose their vigor over time. Adding additional devices to them over the years may cause problems. Weak power masquerades as all kinds of symptoms that can be very misleading and difficult to troubleshoot.
This is all well and good, but the machine having the problem is brand new and the drive isn't that big. So I don't really think it's a power supply issue. It works ok, until the power goes out then reiserFS doesn't recover. It's a journaling file system and therefore should be able to survive when it is not shutdown properly. Right?
BB
Power outages are hard on the hardware and will cause problems whether new or not. Brown outs and surges are the worst and could have damaged the PS. If you are having problems with many power outages you should invest in a UPS to protect your equipment. -- Ken Schneider unix user since 1989 linux user since 1994 SuSE user since 1998 (5.2)
On Friday 30 April 2004 8:59 am, Brad Bendily wrote:
This is all well and good, but the machine having the problem is brand new and the drive isn't that big. So I don't really think it's a power supply issue. It works ok, until the power goes out then reiserFS doesn't recover. It's a journaling file system and therefore should be able to survive when it is not shutdown properly. Right?
BB
That's why I've switched from Reiser to XFS. Don't have those recovery issues after power outages, resetting after lock-ups, etc. Saw a note that that there is an issue with XFS and SUSE 9.1 and an SDB article in german that doesn't seem to be posted yet... http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/2004/04/91_xfsfix.html Stan
On Friday 30 April 2004 10:04 am, S.R.Glasoe wrote:
Saw a note that that there is an issue with XFS and SUSE 9.1 and an SDB article in german that doesn't seem to be posted yet... http://portal.suse.com/sdb/de/2004/04/91_xfsfix.html
Stan
FYI it is now available in at least English and German... Stan
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