On Thursday 30 August 2001 05:14 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:

Well, that's the nature of the GPL. Anyone can redistribute your code under their own label.

But if SuSE did the work, it's only fair to assume they're a lot more competent, and are going to make a killing at the services needed to maintain the systems.

BTW. Someone I talked to at IBM said that SuSE on 390 wasn't very good. They preferred TurboLinux or Caldera. Has anyone here actually used 'zSeries' with linux, and can comment?

I didn't know that Caldera had a port for the S/390....... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 08/30/01 17:35 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "A bachelor is a selfish, undeserving guy who has cheated some woman out of a divorce."

On Thursday 30 August 2001 05:38 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

* Bruce Marshall (bmarsh@bmarsh.com) [010830 14:35]: ->On Thursday 30 August 2001 05:10 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote: ->> I was unaware that RH had an S/390 port.. ->> ->> I guess SuSE is still letting politics rule the day as far as countries. ->> SuSE's S/390 port has been proven for over a year..yet these stock ->> exchanges are going to be running RH. This is just sad..doing the work ->> and then politics and branding get you screwed... :/ ->> ->> http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=540849 ->> ->> Good for Linux in General, but again the spotlight moves from the truely ->> innovative Linux hackers to the marketing experts. Tis sad. -> ->I guess I missed the part where it says "SuSE will no longer be providing an ->S/390 port."

I think you missed the point. I am talking about SuSE on S/390 being used in the States ..not that they will roll over and let RH have it worldwide and just top work on S/390. Where did you get that I said anything remotely close to that. I see nothing in any statement about that. Look again at the previous mails and see what I was talking about.

I *read* your post..... But I don't see the gloom and doom in the news that you do I guess. *I'm* running SuSE on a S/390. That's all that counts to me...... :o) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 08/30/01 17:53 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "If you want to see a short summer, borrow some money due in the fall."

* Tracer Bullet (tracerb@sprintmail.com) [010830 17:26]: -> ->> On Thursday 30 August 2001 05:38 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote: ->> I guess SuSE is still letting politics rule the day as far as ->> > countries. ->> SuSE's S/390 port has been proven for over a ->> > year..yet these stock ->> exchanges are going to be running RH. ->> > This is just sad..doing the work ->> and then politics and ->> > branding get you screwed... :/ ->> -> http://www.idg.net/go.cgi?id=540849 ->Good for Linux in General, but again the spotlight moves from -> the truely innovative Linux hackers to the marketing experts. ->\************************ ->On Thursday 30 August 2001 05:54 pm, Bruce Marshall, you wrote: ->> I *read* your post..... But I don't see the gloom and doom in ->> the news that you do I guess. ->> ->> *I'm* running SuSE on a S/390. That's all that counts to me...... ->> :o) ->------------------------- ->I must agree with Bruce as well, the article only shows the strength ->Linux in general is gaining. From the information I have gathered, ->IBM is only considering SuSE & TurboLinux for the 390s and other ->servers. I believe this will include stateside as well as Euopean ->areas. There have been no mentions of RH in the articles I have read ->or found yet. -> ->end of line ->Tracer Go to www.infoworld.com and read the article. It states the S/390 will be running a version of Linux by RH. My comment wasn't that SuSE would stop doing S/390 or anything else. It was this tendency for companies such as IBM to push certain distributions in certain countries. I know this because Compaq's head of their newly formed Linux division back in Febuary told me that they target distributions to different regions..RH=U.S. SuSE=Europe and Turbo=Asia. I wouldn't make it up..this is how they said they plan on doing business...it's not set in concrete...they offer SuSE and RH on their site for laptops, workstations and servers..but he said that's how their reps would push if given the chance. I think SuSE will be around for a long time and I really want them around for a long time. I still use the software..I still push the software. I work now at XO Communications and until I started there Linux was banned from the desktop because of a break in 3 years ago...well, now 13 out of 30 developers run it on their desktop and have wiped NT4 off their PeeCee's.. heh. So this "Doom and Gloom" stuff is a load...otherwise why would I have been on this list for the last 3 years and continued to be after I was layed off by SuSE. -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org cat CE|ME|NT|XP > /dev/null