[opensuse] howto to start with compiz/3d gadgets
Hello, I not really found of gadgets and most 3d effets I've seen loks like this, but having got a new laptop, I would like to install them, let only to make vista owners jalous :-) However the wiki is overcrowded by unusefull doc :-(. I find, with some difficulty, how to install the nvidia driver (for 10.3, it seems much easier than before and the wiki page should be cleaned to show this first) and i'm sure it works, as 3d games now run. I also run as root a gnome script (said to work also for kde). but then I'm stuck. I see no of the special effects (I restarted de X server, even reboot) and have no idea of how to start the dawn thing :-() of course if I manage to get this running, I will fix the wiki page.. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 19:38 +0100, jdd wrote:
Hello,
I not really found of gadgets and most 3d effets I've seen loks like this, but having got a new laptop, I would like to install them, let only to make vista owners jalous :-)
However the wiki is overcrowded by unusefull doc :-(.
I find, with some difficulty, how to install the nvidia driver (for 10.3, it seems much easier than before and the wiki page should be cleaned to show this first) and i'm sure it works, as 3d games now run.
I also run as root a gnome script (said to work also for kde).
but then I'm stuck. I see no of the special effects (I restarted de X server, even reboot) and have no idea of how to start the dawn thing :-()
So we can assume that you have done any suggested changes to the X server setup. The following is accurate for kde. I do not know if it is the same for gnome. You should run something called fusion-icon. It starts what needs to be started, and provides an icon in the services tray from where you can access all the various configuration options. If this does not make it work, you probably have some details left with the X server. For some reason, this is not set up by default. In addition, some update not too long ago took away whatever system scripts that may have set this up, requiring me to once again add a call to starting this in my Autostart folder. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Dec 6, 2007 12:08 AM, jdd
I find, with some difficulty, how to install the nvidia driver (for 10.3, it seems much easier than before and the wiki page should be cleaned to show this first) and i'm sure it works, as 3d games now run.
It is just 1-click to install driver: http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp One command to setup xorg.conf (as root): nvidia-xconfig --composite --render-accel --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 (Above two steps are the very first section "The easy way" on http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA) One click to install compiz-fusion: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/compiz-fusi... Reboot and all the goodies should be running by default. Cheers -J
I also run as root a gnome script (said to work also for kde).
but then I'm stuck. I see no of the special effects (I restarted de X server, even reboot) and have no idea of how to start the dawn thing :-()
of course if I manage to get this running, I will fix the wiki page..
thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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CyberOrg wrote:
One click to install compiz-fusion:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/compiz-fusi...
Reboot and all the goodies should be running by default.
this complete the trick (but In have still to learn how the cube works :-() however it loaded a number of seemingly unusefull gnome apps thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Dec 6, 2007 4:04 PM, jdd
this complete the trick (but In have still to learn how the cube works :-()
How each plugin work: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins
however it loaded a number of seemingly unusefull gnome apps
Unlikely, as compiz doesn't depend on any other external applications, kde or gnome, can you name one app you think compiz loaded? Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
CyberOrg wrote:
It is just 1-click to install driver:
http://opensuse-community.org/nvidia.ymp
One command to setup xorg.conf (as root):
nvidia-xconfig --composite --render-accel --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
(Above two steps are the very first section "The easy way" on http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA)
One click to install compiz-fusion:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/compiz-fusi...
Reboot and all the goodies should be running by default.
I was with you until the reboot - I'm confused as to why a reboot would even be mentioned. This is not windows after all, so a reboot is not needed just to change a setting or restart a service. Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 06 December 2007 09:43:40 am Sloan wrote:
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
Joe
Yes, But it is alot easier to say reboot isn't it? Don't want to confuse people that don't quite understand what they are doing. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ben Kevan wrote:
On Thursday 06 December 2007 09:43:40 am Sloan wrote:
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
Joe
Yes,
But it is alot easier to say reboot isn't it? Don't want to confuse people that don't quite understand what they are doing.
I suppose a reboot just seems like a lot of fuss compared to simply restarting xdm. Do you suppose I've been away from windows too long, and am now unable to relate to how the other half lives? In any case, I hate to reinforce the stereotypes that windows folk bring with them, making them think they have to reboot every time they turn around. IMHO it's better to give them a chance to break the old habits, show them it's possible to use a computer without constantly rebooting. Joe -- root@ashpool:~> uptime 10:18am up 965 days 21:49, 1 user, load average: 3.12, 2.44, 2.32 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Dec 6, 2007 11:13 PM, Sloan
I was with you until the reboot - I'm confused as to why a reboot would even be mentioned. This is not windows after all, so a reboot is not needed just to change a setting or restart a service.
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
No, we are installing new kernel module that replaces the module with which you booted. And it is simpler to say reboot than to educate how to do that without rebooting. Cheers -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
CyberOrg wrote:
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
No, we are installing new kernel module that replaces the module with which you booted.
Ah, interesting - I'll have to go back and read that procedure more closely. I've installed compiz/xgl or beryl on my own desktops more than once but never rebooted to make it effective, and don't recall any sort of kernel change. If it's a matter of possibly confusing windows refugees, perhaps a button could be added that says "activate compiz now" to avoid forcing the choice between a reboot or having to type an intimidating command. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sloan wrote:
I was with you until the reboot - I'm confused as to why a reboot would even be mentioned. This is not windows after all, so a reboot is not needed just to change a setting or restart a service.
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
Joe
Yes, as long as the driver kernel module did *not* change with the
1-click install of the nvidia driver, then in addition to rcxdm restart,
there would be a need to rmmod
David C. Rankin wrote:
Sloan wrote:
I was with you until the reboot - I'm confused as to why a reboot would even be mentioned. This is not windows after all, so a reboot is not needed just to change a setting or restart a service.
Wouldn't "rcxdm restart" do the trick? If not, what am I missing?
Joe
Yes, as long as the driver kernel module did *not* change with the 1-click install of the nvidia driver, then in addition to rcxdm restart, there would be a need to rmmod
modprobe and a depmod thrown in for good measure in order to avoid some serious conflicts. My laptop has ATI so I used to scary driver conflicts, nvidia may be different, but a reboot is often simpler that sorting out module conflicts.
Wow sounds like ATI is a very sad scene. I haven't used ATI cards for some years because the ATI cards were the only cards that would lock my system up every time I tried to start certain 3D FPS games, while the voodoo graphics, intel and nvidia drivers never did that. On SLED, the nvidia drivers get installed automatically during the OS install if you are online and let the online update run. On opensuse, once you add the nvidia repo and do an online update, the nvidia drivers get installed, and a CTL-ALT-BKSP gets you a new X session with hardware OpenGL support. At home I'm running Intel 945 video on my main desktop and I have to admit it's been nice not having to worry about driver issues at all. The video isn't the fastest in the world, but it's good enough to play quake 3 arena, run google earth and some nice 3D screensavers. It sounds like good times are coming for ATI video card users though, if you can hang on until then. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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