[opensuse] SuSE 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2 Problem
Hi ! Yesterday I have upgraded from SuSE 11.4 to 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2, and today morning run into unexpected problem. Thunderbird can't download new massages because: ************************ There is not enough disk space to download new messages. Try deleting old mail, emptying the Trash folder, and compacting your mail folders, and then try again. ************************ However, I have more then 250GB free on home partition. Root partition also have a lot of free space. I moved all messages from inbox, cleaned trash and junk folders, compacted all mailboxes, even restarted computer. Nothing helps. Looks like this is Thunderbird bug. Anyone can suggest how to solve this problem? Thanks in advance. PS. Firefox 10.0.2 work fine without any problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Subject : [opensuse] SuSE 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2 Problem
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Date & Time: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:31:28 +0200
"andreil1@starlett.lv"
Yesterday I have upgraded from SuSE 11.4 to 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2, and today morning run into unexpected problem. Thunderbird can't download new massages because: ************************ There is not enough disk space to download new messages. Try deleting old mail, emptying the Trash folder, and compacting your mail folders, and then try again. ************************
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On 01/03/12 18:31, andreil1@starlett.lv wrote:
Hi !
Yesterday I have upgraded from SuSE 11.4 to 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2, and today morning run into unexpected problem. Thunderbird can't download new massages because: ************************ There is not enough disk space to download new messages. Try deleting old mail, emptying the Trash folder, and compacting your mail folders, and then try again. ************************
However, I have more then 250GB free on home partition. Root partition also have a lot of free space. I moved all messages from inbox, cleaned trash and junk folders, compacted all mailboxes, even restarted computer. Nothing helps. Looks like this is Thunderbird bug.
Anyone can suggest how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
PS. Firefox 10.0.2 work fine without any problem.
Thunderbird works fine under 12.1. Have you emptied your /tmp ( /tmp as in the / directory) [and the /var/tmp] directory? There appears to be a problem somewhere and these 2 directories are not cleared for some reason as they were in earlier releases of oS. To clean out /tmp, do ALT-CTRL-F1 and login as root then do 'init 1' and login as root once again; do 'rm -rf /tmp/*' which will clean out /tmp; then do 'init 5' to get back to your logon screen. See also /etc/sysconfig/cron and set the appropriate parameters to keep /tmp and /var/tmp cleaned by cron. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi ! Thanks for everyone who replied ! The same problem (without solution) is described here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276143 After trying several versions of Thunderbird from 7.x to 10.x, checking permissions, etc., I found a culprit which is clearly relate to same oddity or bug in Thunderbird itself. In short, stopping quota system solved the problem. Quota itself wasn't a cause because there are lot of space available. On 03/01/2012 11:06 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 01/03/12 18:31, andreil1@starlett.lv wrote:
Hi !
Yesterday I have upgraded from SuSE 11.4 to 12.1 and Thunderbird 10.0.2, and today morning run into unexpected problem. Thunderbird can't download new massages because: ************************ There is not enough disk space to download new messages. Try deleting old mail, emptying the Trash folder, and compacting your mail folders, and then try again. ************************
However, I have more then 250GB free on home partition. Root partition also have a lot of free space. I moved all messages from inbox, cleaned trash and junk folders, compacted all mailboxes, even restarted computer. Nothing helps. Looks like this is Thunderbird bug.
Anyone can suggest how to solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
PS. Firefox 10.0.2 work fine without any problem.
Thunderbird works fine under 12.1.
Have you emptied your /tmp ( /tmp as in the / directory) [and the /var/tmp] directory?
There appears to be a problem somewhere and these 2 directories are not cleared for some reason as they were in earlier releases of oS.
To clean out /tmp,
do ALT-CTRL-F1 and login as root then do 'init 1' and login as root once again;
do 'rm -rf /tmp/*' which will clean out /tmp;
then do 'init 5' to get back to your logon screen.
See also /etc/sysconfig/cron and set the appropriate parameters to keep /tmp and /var/tmp cleaned by cron.
BC
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On 02/03/12 09:18, andreil1@starlett.lv wrote:
Hi !
Thanks for everyone who replied !
The same problem (without solution) is described here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276143
After trying several versions of Thunderbird from 7.x to 10.x, checking permissions, etc., I found a culprit which is clearly relate to same oddity or bug in Thunderbird itself. In short, stopping quota system solved the problem. Quota itself wasn't a cause because there are lot of space available.
The URL you mention above does not provide the final answer to the question, and your reference to "the quota system" being stopped (by you): what "quota system"? where is it? and how did you "stop" it? BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-02 02:53, Basil Chupin wrote:
The URL you mention above does not provide the final answer to the question, and your reference to "the quota system" being stopped (by you): what "quota system"? where is it? and how did you "stop" it?
There is a filesystem quota in Linux which can be enabled. If a user reaches the limit, even though there could be free space, his programs would receive the no free space error, IIRC. http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/htmlsingle/openSUSE/opensuse-startup.h... 10.3.5. Managing Quotas - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9QLxMACgkQIvFNjefEBxpi7gCgiwoVeBLSejZaaVv7qmbFZjpv MJIAnR0C+gU/QU/BUEcr3wapmmO/K4qC =LBbh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/03/12 13:23, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 02:53, Basil Chupin wrote:
The URL you mention above does not provide the final answer to the question, and your reference to "the quota system" being stopped (by you): what "quota system"? where is it? and how did you "stop" it? There is a filesystem quota in Linux which can be enabled. If a user reaches the limit, even though there could be free space, his programs would receive the no free space error, IIRC.
http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/htmlsingle/openSUSE/opensuse-startup.h... 10.3.5. Managing Quotas
Thanks Carlos. In all the years that I have been using openSUSE I have never heard of this so this is a revelation to me (as many things are :-) ) . BUT, this quota thing is NOT installed by default when one installs oS but has to be deliberately installed. So I wonder how or why the OP happened to have it installed? I wonder if he will tell us. BC -- I'd rather live one more day as a wolf than an entire life as a lamb. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-02 03:51, Basil Chupin wrote:
10.3.5. Managing Quotas
Thanks Carlos.
In all the years that I have been using openSUSE I have never heard of this so this is a revelation to me (as many things are :-) ) .
Welcome . I happened to notice this when it was introduced years ago, and I remembered. I have never used it, though.
BUT, this quota thing is NOT installed by default when one installs oS but has to be deliberately installed.
Yes, of course.
So I wonder how or why the OP happened to have it installed? I wonder if he will tell us.
Well, it can be a shared computer. Or he could have set it up to learn about the methodology and then forgot to remove it until it hits years later :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9QitsACgkQIvFNjefEBxqRKgCeIwXNxvzSoKSJy3WCMOrI+FFT HP4AoMorNiQ4VIoQdFTWl+uh0LtYqFMM =z0Jl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2012-03-02 03:51, Basil Chupin wrote:
10.3.5. Managing Quotas
Thanks Carlos.
In all the years that I have been using openSUSE I have never heard of this so this is a revelation to me (as many things are :-) ) .
Welcome . I happened to notice this when it was introduced years ago, and I remembered. I have never used it, though.
It's primarily useful on multi-user systems. It prevents one user from filling up the whole file system thereby denying service to others. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.9°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Have you emptied your /tmp ( /tmp as in the / directory) [and the /var/tmp] directory?
There appears to be a problem somewhere and these 2 directories are not cleared for some reason as they were in earlier releases of oS.
You have to enable it - see /etc/sysconfig/cron. I think it was discussed making it the default, but afaik, sofar the default has been to not automatically clear out /tmp. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.8°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-02 10:00, Per Jessen wrote:
You have to enable it - see /etc/sysconfig/cron.
I understand it is ignored if you use systemd. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9QnJYACgkQIvFNjefEBxoLGACdEWt7v5GHT45sZ7L0b7EPEyEe nBkAoMBOTb2KC6i17QMcEaHzTSNFXGFD =ibhj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-03-02 10:00, Per Jessen wrote:
You have to enable it - see /etc/sysconfig/cron.
I understand it is ignored if you use systemd.
Okay, I wasn't aware of that. I don't auto-clean tmp files myself, but if /etc/sysconfig/cron is ignored, there is probably an equivalent that works with systemd. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.4°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-03-02 11:16, Per Jessen wrote:
Okay, I wasn't aware of that. I don't auto-clean tmp files myself, but if /etc/sysconfig/cron is ignored, there is probably an equivalent that works with systemd.
Yes, there is, but I don't have it on memory :-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9QpgQACgkQIvFNjefEBxr6VwCfZYFBWKV31Cxglf7ft8ClkeSD 8iUAoIoupavO+AlDFqL5K7jXQrzfpp2G =B2Kc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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andreil1@starlett.lv
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Basil Chupin
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Carlos E. R.
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Masaru Nomiya
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Per Jessen