This is a (little) nitpicky, but it's another one of the things I miss from Windows. In Windows, I had my print driver configured to print jobs in reverse order, which caused it to be in the output tray in the correct order. I've noticed that I can tell PDF files to print this way (and there may be other applications that can do this), but the real fix would seem to be in the print spooler if it can be done at all - then all jobs would do it. Does anyone know if/how this might be accomplished? -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 07:58, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
This is a (little) nitpicky, but it's another one of the things I miss from Windows.
In Windows, I had my print driver configured to print jobs in reverse order, which caused it to be in the output tray in the correct order.
I've noticed that I can tell PDF files to print this way (and there may be other applications that can do this), but the real fix would seem to be in the print spooler if it can be done at all - then all jobs would do it.
Does anyone know if/how this might be accomplished? -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right). Ken Schneider
Op dinsdag 15 april 2003 14:04, schreef Ken Schneider:
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 07:58, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
This is a (little) nitpicky, but it's another one of the things I miss from Windows.
In Windows, I had my print driver configured to print jobs in reverse order, which caused it to be in the output tray in the correct order.
I've noticed that I can tell PDF files to print this way (and there may be other applications that can do this), but the real fix would seem to be in the print spooler if it can be done at all - then all jobs would do it.
Does anyone know if/how this might be accomplished? -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right).
The same in kprinter. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:12, Richard Bos wrote:
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right).
The same in kprinter.
What is kprinter? C'mon guys; I know it's fun teasing the newbie by letting him know that what he wants to do is possible without giving a clue how to do it. <g> Could one of you *PLEASE* (hard to beg on a keyboard) point me at something describing how to set it up. You don't need to type detailed instructions - just a "try looking here" would be greatly appreciated. -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:04, Ken Schneider wrote:
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right).
Newbie Mode On: I have no idea what "qtcups as the printer" means. I'm using Cups (the SuSE default). A quick search shows qtcups as a library that can be used in writing a program, is that what you're referring to? If so, that is on an application by application basis - not a system option that would solve the problem for all printouts. If it is setup with Cups - I'll do it; please point me at an area to look at for information. -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 08:13, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:04, Ken Schneider wrote:
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right).
Newbie Mode On: I have no idea what "qtcups as the printer" means. I'm using Cups (the SuSE default). A quick search shows qtcups as a library that can be used in writing a program, is that what you're referring to? If so, that is on an application by application basis - not a system option that would solve the problem for all printouts. If it is setup with Cups - I'll do it; please point me at an area to look at for information.
-- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
Specify qtcups as the name of the printer. Ken Schneider
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:16, Ken Schneider wrote:
Specify qtcups as the name of the printer.
There's obviously more to setting it up than just this. I can create a printer named qtcups using my Epson drivers, but (a) it will have the same capability / limitations as my other definitions. What do I specify as a driver? -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 08:42, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:16, Ken Schneider wrote:
Specify qtcups as the name of the printer.
There's obviously more to setting it up than just this.
I can create a printer named qtcups using my Epson drivers, but (a) it will have the same capability / limitations as my other definitions. What do I specify as a driver?
-- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
You don't setup a printer called qtcups, it is a program (you may not have it installed, if not install it using YaST). Then specify qtcups as the printer name which will run the program called qtcups. This will give you more options for printing. Ken Schneider
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 08:06, Ken Schneider wrote:
You don't setup a printer called qtcups, it is a program (you may not have it installed, if not install it using YaST). Then specify qtcups as the printer name which will run the program called qtcups. This will give you more options for printing.
Thanks. That gives me a direction to go in. -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
Ken Schneider wrote:
You don't setup a printer called qtcups, it is a program (you may not have it installed, if not install it using YaST). Then specify qtcups as the printer name which will run the program called qtcups. This will give you more options for printing.
Actually, qtcups is deprecated, as per its man page. You should be using `kprinter'. What people have been trying to say, Michael, is that KDE printing is basically good to go. You set up your printers in KDE using the KDE configurator, and then QT-linked applications will run through those printers. On the other hand, other applications, like Mozilla, can be told to print using the command `kprinter' instead of `lpr'. This will feed the print job to the standard KDE dialog box that allows you to pick which printer you want to send to, along with its options, and it makes non-QT apps then follow your printing setup. Now none of this addresses how you actually get print jobs to spool backwards in your printer configuration. I'm not in Linux right now to check. (I'm in XP; my copy of 8.2 should be here this morning...) I would start looking at http://www.cups.org/ for some documentation on how to do this. In fact, as I google a little, I see that the option "OutputOrder=Reverse" ought to make the printer do what you want. The configuration GUI's may or may not expose this feature (though something else I read leads me to believe it does, perhaps just at print time), but you could always add it manually to the printer's definition in cupsd.conf. Sounds to me like you just need to fix your printer... Regards, dk
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On April 15, 2003 09:32 am, David Krider wrote:
On the other hand, other applications, like Mozilla, can be told to print using the command `kprinter' instead of `lpr'.
The command to use is: kprinter --stdin
The configuration GUI's may or may not expose this feature (though something else I read leads me to believe it does, perhaps just at print time), but you could always add it manually to the printer's definition in cupsd.conf.
All the options are in the kprinter dialog box, just hit the expand button. Charles - -- "Linux, because up-time matters gawk; talk; date; wine; grep; touch; unzip; touch; gasp; finger; gasp; mount;\ fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean; make mrproper; sleep." - --Drunken Bastard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+nAzW3epPyyKbwPYRAsPcAKCwugMvQ7Uf8ugmSzaui8AABibNugCgiwRK VwLPDnwXuqyZgtkAreCLTyY= =Wg4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 08:32, David Krider wrote:
Actually, qtcups is deprecated, as per its man page. You should be using `kprinter'. What people have been trying to say, Michael, is that KDE printing is basically good to go. You set up your printers in KDE using the KDE configurator, and then QT-linked applications will run through those printers. On the other hand, other applications, like Mozilla, can be told to print using the command `kprinter' instead of `lpr'. This will feed the print job to the standard KDE dialog box that allows you to pick which printer you want to send to, along with its options, and it makes non-QT apps then follow your printing setup.
Now none of this addresses how you actually get print jobs to spool backwards in your printer configuration. <Snip> In fact, as I google a
I found that. It was a good exercise for me. little, I see that the option That was what I needed. I got hung up looking at qtprint / kprinter / etc, and wasn't looking at Cups. When I searched there, I found the command "lpoptions", which if used as root sets default options for the defined printers. I set this to outputorder=reverse and my printers now give me properly collated output. Thanks
Sounds to me like you just need to fix your printer...
You're right ... and now I have -- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
The 03.04.15 at 09:06, Ken Schneider wrote:
You don't setup a printer called qtcups, it is a program (you may not have it installed, if not install it using YaST). Then specify qtcups as
There is no qtcups package or file on the suse 8.1 cds. Not even on the descriptions! -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On 04/15/2003 08:42 PM, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:16, Ken Schneider wrote:
Specify qtcups as the name of the printer.
There's obviously more to setting it up than just this.
qtcups is not the name you assign a printer (nor kprinter), but a program (front end) for CUPS. It provides a graphical dialog box to set various printer options graphically, like the printer dialog boxes in Windows. IIANM, kprinter has replaced or intergrated qtcups in the newer kde3 (3.1, 3.1.1), and IS installed if you installed a newer kde (I don't know when it was integrated, along with KUPS, the CUPS configuration program). It has given KDE a very nice printing arrangement. You shouldn't install (or don't need) qtcups if you have a newer kde3 installed. HTH -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 08:13, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
On Tuesday 15 April 2003 07:04, Ken Schneider wrote:
If you use qtcups as the printer it will give you that option (reverse order selection on the right).
Newbie Mode On: I have no idea what "qtcups as the printer" means. I'm using Cups (the SuSE default). A quick search shows qtcups as a library that can be used in writing a program, is that what you're referring to? If so, that is on an application by application basis - not a system option that would solve
Please see question below: (XXXXX) At 08:16 04/15/2003 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote: the
problem for all printouts. If it is setup with Cups - I'll do it; please point me at an area to look at for information.
-- Penguins eat butterflies, don't they?
Specify qtcups as the name of the printer.
XXXXX How does the software know what kind of a printer you have? It could be a XXXXX Postscript Laserjet, or a color deskjet, or even an old dot-matrix. XXXXX Is qtcups smart enough to figure it out? XXXXX --doug
Ken Schneider
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