Hi All, Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6? Thanks Dylan -- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet
On Friday 04 Jun 2004 17:34 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 18.29, Dylan wrote:
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6?
I'm running 9.1 successfully on a K6 right now
Oh, that's excellent - for some reason I thought it was no longer supported - which kernel are you using? Cheers Dylan -- "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" -Dark Helmet
On Friday 04 June 2004 18.47, Dylan wrote:
On Friday 04 Jun 2004 17:34 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 18.29, Dylan wrote:
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6?
I'm running 9.1 successfully on a K6 right now
Oh, that's excellent - for some reason I thought it was no longer supported - which kernel are you using?
kernel-default, from the distribution
On Friday 04 June 2004 11:51 am, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 18.47, Dylan wrote:
On Friday 04 Jun 2004 17:34 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 18.29, Dylan wrote:
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6?
I'm running 9.1 successfully on a K6 right now
Oh, that's excellent - for some reason I thought it was no longer supported - which kernel are you using?
kernel-default, from the distribution
What kind of chipset does it have for the drive? Is the DMA working? My Compaq with the opti chipset hasnt been supported by SuSE since 2.4.19 although each subsequent kernel has properly detected the K6 cpu. And yes, I have sent in feedback on it twice but so far it has been properly ignored. I had to email Alan Cox just to find out why my dma wouldnt work. Took him a couple of seconds to tell me the opti621 driver wasnt being compiled or installed. Still no joy from SuSE. Richard
On Friday 04 June 2004 02:59 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 21.33, Richard Atcheson wrote:
What kind of chipset does it have for the drive?
VIA
Is the DMA working?
Yes Thanks Anders, I'm a bit curious, if you look at your kernel config, does it show it to be using the K6 or the generic 586 kernel?
It just occured to me that each of the kernel configs list mine as the generic rather than the K6, however I can do menuconfig/xconfig and select the K6 and build the opti module which means my dma does wonders. I wonder if the hardware scan sees my Laptop as a generic old thing rather than the K6 and if it does, how can I convince the SuSE install to use the K6 with opti chipset. Interestingly though, I have booted with the Knoppix 3.3 and 3.4 and it sees and configures for the K6 with opti chipset so it cant be all that difficult. BTW, once the DMA starts working SuSE up to 9.1 just works wonders. ra
On Saturday 05 June 2004 01.04, Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 02:59 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 21.33, Richard Atcheson wrote:
What kind of chipset does it have for the drive?
VIA
Is the DMA working?
Yes
Thanks Anders, I'm a bit curious, if you look at your kernel config, does it show it to be using the K6 or the generic 586 kernel?
It just occured to me that each of the kernel configs list mine as the generic rather than the K6, however I can do menuconfig/xconfig and select the K6 and build the opti module which means my dma does wonders. I wonder if the hardware scan sees my Laptop as a generic old thing rather than the K6 and if it does, how can I convince the SuSE install to use the K6 with opti chipset. Interestingly though, I have booted with the Knoppix 3.3 and 3.4 and it sees and configures for the K6 with opti chipset so it cant be all that difficult.
SuSE doesn't recompile the kernel on install, and neither (I believe) does knoppix. If knoppix provides you with a K6 specific kernel, then that has been precompiled for you on the CD. SuSE has no such K6 specific precompiled kernel, and to the best of my knowledge they have never had one. I get the default kernel when I install, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. Why they don't provide the opti module I have no idea. But as you discovered, recompiling a suse kernel is very easily done.
On Friday 04 June 2004 06:16 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why they don't provide the opti module I have no idea.
But as you discovered, recompiling a suse kernel is very easily done.
Yes but on a dma-less k6 @ 333 it takes 24 hours plus to do it all! That's a lot of waiting and hardly worth doing everytime the kernel gets upgraded. ra
On Saturday 05 June 2004 02.24, Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 06:16 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why they don't provide the opti module I have no idea.
But as you discovered, recompiling a suse kernel is very easily done.
Yes but on a dma-less k6 @ 333 it takes 24 hours plus to do it all!
Is that seriously your only computer? You don't have anything more modern? You know you don't have to be on the K6 just to compile a kernel targeted at it, right?
On Friday 04 June 2004 07:28 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Is that seriously your only computer? Not hardly, but it's my only laptop until Dell gets me my replacement next week- I hope. You don't have anything more modern?
Of course, I'm computer poor with 6 or 7 running here. I even have one running windows for my annual taxes.
You know you don't have to be on the K6 just to compile a kernel targeted at it, right?
I kinda figured that was an option, expecially since the kernels that I get have been done to on another computer, but it seemed easier to just download the source and do the compile on the laptop rather than messing with doing the transfers etc.I guess I could make an rpm on one of the other machines. Although I have used checkinstall to make an rpm a couple of times, I dont know how to properly package all the module stuff so I haden't tried but I guess I should. Sure would be nicer if I didnt have to go through all that, though. Compiling kernels and modules is not real high on my fun list.
?????
That's a *LOT* longer than it took to compile a Slackware kernel on my old 66 MHz 486 DX2.
yes, it shouldn't take so long but I apparently had a bad cache or something in my harddrive. I replaced it with a like unit and my disk access times halved. Still, it takes to long to make it fun. If I hadn't gone to wireless I would still be using the 2.4.19 kernel. ra
Richard Atcheson wrote:
On Friday 04 June 2004 06:16 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
Why they don't provide the opti module I have no idea.
But as you discovered, recompiling a suse kernel is very easily done.
Yes but on a dma-less k6 @ 333 it takes 24 hours plus to do it all! That's a lot of waiting and hardly worth doing everytime the kernel gets upgraded. ra
????? That's a *LOT* longer than it took to compile a Slackware kernel on my old 66 MHz 486 DX2.
Dylan wrote:
Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6?
Prolly 13.13 :-). I just fetched boot.iso. As soon as I burn it I'm installing to a K6/III+ 500. -- "For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities -- his eternal power and divine nature -- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:20 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
On Friday 04 June 2004 18:29, Dylan wrote:
Can anyone tell me which version of SuSE is the last to support the K6?
I used SuSE 8.0 Pro on a K6-II 500mhz with VIA MPV3 based board. It ran beautifully. Unfortunately the board was rubbish (FIC - don't buy), and when I decided to ad some more substantial graphics (nVidia TNT2), the machine kept freezing up and I eventually found out that the board couldn't supply enough power for the card. I also had SUSE 8.0 or 8.1, can't remember, on a K6-II 300mhz, overclocked, on a Gigabyte board with SiS or ALi chipset (can't remember either). This ran beautifully and stably as well and outperformed a 500mhz Celeron with intel board.... I'm pretty sure the kernel devs wouldn't have dropped support for the CPU in the meantime. -- Kind regards Hans du Plooy Newington Consulting Services hansdp at newingtoncs dot co dot za
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Anders Johansson
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Dylan
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Felix Miata
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Hans du Plooy
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James Knott
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Richard Atcheson