On 01/01/2017 01:22 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

Yes I am looking in the right place. Perhaps a better question would be: What is the command line to take me to the display and monitor settings, as the GUI seems broken.

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 9:11 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Hi,

are you sure you are looking into the right panel? It's called "Display and Monitor" under "Hardware". Screen locker is located under "Desktop Behavior"

Screen shots or it didn't happen. There is nothing about Screen locker on the Display and Monitor panel. No, I'm not telling you where the text settings are located, because you've already had too much New Year's Grog to read your GUI screen. ;-) -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* dnomhcir@gmx.com [01-01-17 17:53]:

OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.   https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928    

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 10:07 PM From: "John Andersen" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings On 01/01/2017 01:22 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

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Yes I am looking in the right place. Perhaps a better question would be: What is the command line to take me to the display and monitor settings, as the GUI seems broken.

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 9:11 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Hi,

are you sure you are looking into the right panel? It's called "Display and Monitor" under "Hardware". Screen locker is located under "Desktop Behavior"

Screen shots or it didn't happen. There is nothing about Screen locker on the Display and Monitor panel.

No, I'm not telling you where the text settings are located, because you've already had too much New Year's Grog to read your GUI screen. ;-)

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I don't have a 42.x system to try, but the 42.x display module is completely different than my Tw. Screen locking is in "Desktop Behavior" and "Display and Monitor" contains "Displays", "Compositor" and "Gamma" and I configure my second display, a 55" 4k tv under "Displays". -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* John Andersen [01-01-17 18:20]:

On 01/01/2017 03:02 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* dnomhcir@gmx.com [01-01-17 17:53]:

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OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.

https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 10:07 PM From: "John Andersen" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings On 01/01/2017 01:22 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

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Yes I am looking in the right place. Perhaps a better question would be: What is the command line to take me to the display and monitor settings, as the GUI seems broken.

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 9:11 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Hi,

are you sure you are looking into the right panel? It's called "Display and Monitor" under "Hardware". Screen locker is located under "Desktop Behavior"

Screen shots or it didn't happen. There is nothing about Screen locker on the Display and Monitor panel.

No, I'm not telling you where the text settings are located, because you've already had too much New Year's Grog to read your GUI screen. ;-)

-- After all is said and done, more is said than done.

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I don't have a 42.x system to try, but the 42.x display module is completely different than my Tw. Screen locking is in "Desktop Behavior" and "Display and Monitor" contains "Displays", "Compositor" and "Gamma" and I configure my second display, a 55" 4k tv under "Displays".

That is exactly they way my Fresh install of 42.2 works.

Never the less, he posted screen shots that show he is getting something else, not only in the Display and Monitor sub panel, but also in the tool tips.

I'd have to ask if this dnomhcir if this is an upgrade or a fresh install? How does he get back to Display and Monitor?

or is he actually running systemsettings (ver4) rather than systemsettings5? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Ok, I get your problem. There must be something wrong. Could you please run "systemsettings5" from the terminal and click "Display" again? My output then is: kscreen.kcm: LOAD file:///usr/share/kcm_kscreen/qml/Output.qml:54:5: QML MouseArea: Binding loop detected for property "width" kscreen.kcm: Activate output 83 You could try to run "zypper in -f systemsettings5" and see if you get a file-conflict. Simon Am 01.01.2017 um 23:52 schrieb dnomhcir@gmx.com:

OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.

https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 10:07 PM From: "John Andersen" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings On 01/01/2017 01:22 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

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Yes I am looking in the right place. Perhaps a better question would be: What is the command line to take me to the display and monitor settings, as the GUI seems broken.

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 9:11 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Hi,

are you sure you are looking into the right panel? It's called "Display and Monitor" under "Hardware". Screen locker is located under "Desktop Behavior"

Screen shots or it didn't happen. There is nothing about Screen locker on the Display and Monitor panel.

No, I'm not telling you where the text settings are located, because you've already had too much New Year's Grog to read your GUI screen. ;-)

-- After all is said and done, more is said than done.

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A thousand thankyous to you Simon. I ran systemsettings5 and it worked properly. I have the elusive dialog.   I think I should probably re-install the system with a chosen desktop rather than do things piecemeal.   Thanks to others who responded too.   Too late for Netflix today, but tomorrow is another day. Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 11:17 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Ok, I get your problem. There must be something wrong. Could you please run "systemsettings5" from the terminal and click "Display" again? My output then is: kscreen.kcm: LOAD file:///usr/share/kcm_kscreen/qml/Output.qml:54:5: QML MouseArea: Binding loop detected for property "width" kscreen.kcm: Activate output 83 You could try to run "zypper in -f systemsettings5" and see if you get a file-conflict. Simon Am 01.01.2017 um 23:52 schrieb dnomhcir@gmx.com:

OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.

https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928[http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928]

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 10:07 PM From: "John Andersen" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings On 01/01/2017 01:22 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

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Yes I am looking in the right place. Perhaps a better question would be: What is the command line to take me to the display and monitor settings, as the GUI seems broken.

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 9:11 PM From: "Simon Heimbach" To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings Hi,

are you sure you are looking into the right panel? It's called "Display and Monitor" under "Hardware". Screen locker is located under "Desktop Behavior"

Screen shots or it didn't happen. There is nothing about Screen locker on the Display and Monitor panel.

No, I'm not telling you where the text settings are located, because you've already had too much New Year's Grog to read your GUI screen. ;-)

-- After all is said and done, more is said than done.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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* dnomhcir@gmx.com [01-02-17 09:26]:

I have completely re-installed the system (twice) including formatting both the home and root partitions, and installing a minimal xwindow system. But when I log in, the laptop screen resolution is still wrong. It seems to be remembering the scaled mode that I set it to. How can I reset it? I am in the process of installing XFCE4 but I fear this will not have the necessary options.

## your editor/email client has wrap disabled :( ## you fail to provide information! define "minimal xwindow system", "screen resolution", "scaled mode", missing necessary options.... is it really necessary to not install a desktop during the system install? steps you took to get to where you are now? some means of clearing a foggy crystal ball. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* dnomhcir@gmx.com [01-02-17 10:50]:

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your editor/email client has wrap disabled :( ##

Well sorry about that but I am using webmail, and I wasn't aware of such requirements. I don't think there is much I can do other than wrap manually.

it is not a "requirement", just courtesy

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you fail to provide information! define "minimal xwindow system", "screen resolution", "scaled mode", missing necessary options....

When installing opensuse, there is an option to select the desktop environment. If you select "other" there is a minimal xwindow installation which uses xdm and icewm.

Using a laptop LCD there is a default resolution of 1920x1200. If you use a lower resolution, for example, 1024x768, you can scale the display so it fills the screen but writing etc looks bigger.

so you chose a "scaled" mode? of ?

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is it really necessary to not install a desktop during the system install?

No but my system has less than 1G of RAM and performs better without a DE.

ah

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steps you took to get to where you are now?

I installed the system then installed kde and changed the resolution of the screen. I then re-installed the system and wiped everything, thinking that the resolution would return to the default. But it did not.

"wiped everything", reformatted?

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some means of clearing a foggy crystal ball.

I have got the right resolution back using the display settings with XFCE4 but it still starts xwindows with the wrong resolution and changes it when I log in.

so you are not talking about the resolution in your desktop, but the display during boot/grub, iiuc. yast bootloader adjust the display parameters (google if not understood). or you need to better explain to those not sitting in front of your monitor. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Further information: If I goto the virtual console and type xinit -- :1 This starts a new X display. If I then type xrandr It says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192 VGA-0 disconnected primary (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 370mm x 230mm 1920x1200 60.00 + 60.00 1920x1080 59.96 1600x1200 59.87 1680x1050 59.95 1400x1050 59.98 1280x1024 59.89 1440x900 59.89 1280x960 59.94 1280x854 59.89 1280x800 59.81 1280x720 59.86 1152x768 59.78 1024x768 59.92* 800x600 59.86 848x480 59.66 720x480 59.71 640x480 59.38 S-video connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 59.92* 800x600 59.86 848x480 59.66 720x480 59.71 640x480 59.38 DVI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) So the default mode is 1024x768. I want to change that to 1920x1200. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Richmond [01-02-17 12:41]: >> I cannot tell if this is going to wrap or not. I have set it to >> wrap at 72. >> >> Patrick Shanahan wrote: >>>>> When installing opensuse, there is an option to select the >>>>> desktop >>>> environment. If you select "other" there is a minimal xwindow >>>>>> >> installation which uses xdm and icewm. >> >> Using a laptop LCD >> there is a default resolution of 1920x1200. If >> you use a lower >> resolution, for example, 1024x768, you can scale >> the display so >> it fills the screen but writing etc looks bigger. > > so you chose >> a "scaled" mode? of ? Yes, I chose a scaled mode, of 1024x768 >>

I have fixed it! Just in case anyone else comes down this road (including me in the future when I have forgotten) I added these lines to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Monitor "Configured Monitor" Device "Configured Video Device" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1920x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubsection EndSection Patrick Shanahan wrote: probably, for the LCD display, in the display settings of KDE, >> yesterday, before I re-installed the system. >> >>>> "wiped everything", reformatted? >> Yes, I formatted both the /home and root partitions, and grub was >> re-installed. >> >>>>>> some means of clearing a foggy crystal ball. >> >> I have >>>>>> got the >> right resolution back using the display settings >> with XFCE4 but >> it still starts xwindows with the wrong resolution >> and changes >> it when I log in. > >>> so you are not talking about the resolution in your desktop, but >>> the > >> display during boot/grub, iiuc. I am talking about the resolution >> when X starts up. It switches to low resolution when X starts, and >> then changes back after I have logged in through xdm. > > ah, maybe gfx or vga= > > I use vga=1280x1024 > > yast bootloader bootloader options kernel parameters use graphical > console choose > > adds to grub kernel command line: vga=1280x1024 > > >>>> yast bootloader adjust the display parameters (google if not > >> understood). The bootloader parameter is set to 1920x1200 which is >> the highest and desired resolution. >> >>>> or you need to better explain to those not sitting in front of >>>> your

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monitor. > >> >> I am doing my best. > > me toooo >

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On 01/01/2017 02:52 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.

https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928

Well I stand corrected..... Is this an upgrade or fresh install of 42.2? -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

sorry I meant 42.2. :(     Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 at 11:24 PM From: "John Andersen" To: SLE Subject: Re: [opensuse] display and monitor settings On 01/01/2017 03:21 PM, John Andersen wrote:

On 01/01/2017 02:52 PM, dnomhcir@gmx.com wrote:

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OK Here are two screenshots, but it is difficult to screenshot a click, I would have to make a movie.

https://paste.opensuse.org/58861996 http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928[http://paste.opensuse.org/40791928]

Well I stand corrected..... Is this an upgrade or fresh install of 42.2?

Oh, wait, you didn't say 42.2, you said Opensuse 14.2 -- What the hell is that? Never heard of it. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org   -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org