Well, I've decided to go back to my NVidia card (geforce 256 SDR) do to all the problems with my ATI Radeon . . . anyway when I install the latest drivers from NVidia (1.0-1541) they don't work . . . as before, only the earliest drivers work (1.0-1251) . . . with the newer drivers I get an error when starting X saying that the kernel driver could not be initialized, but it is loaded. I've tried installing both the NVidia suse RPMs and the tar.gz file. Has anyone else had this problem? Anyway to fix? It seems odd to me that the RPMs provided by NVidia for SuSE 7.2 don't work properly . . . back to 1.0-1251, I guess . . . -- Nick Webb http://www.uidaho.edu/~nickw/
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :( Pip J
-----Original Message----- From: Nick Webb [mailto:nickw@uidaho.edu] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 01:01 AM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] NVdrivers
Well, I've decided to go back to my NVidia card (geforce 256 SDR) do to all the problems with my ATI Radeon . . . anyway when I install the latest drivers from NVidia (1.0-1541) they don't work . . . as before, only the earliest drivers work (1.0-1251) . . . with the newer drivers I get an error when starting X saying that the kernel driver could not be initialized, but it is loaded. I've tried installing both the NVidia suse RPMs and the tar.gz file.
Has anyone else had this problem? Anyway to fix? It seems odd to me that the RPMs provided by NVidia for SuSE 7.2 don't work properly . . . back to 1.0-1251, I guess . . .
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On Sunday 25 November 2001 17:05, Mike Reith wrote:
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :(
Pip J
Do you have mesa-devel.rpm installed? Do an ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so and see where that points to regards Anders PS. I don't know what will happen to my From: in this mail. I'm trying to recreate the problem with non-susers getting @suse.com addresses. Apologies to anyone offended by this
Thanks, Anders. I tried that and the console reported that it did not exist. I assume that it means that Mesa is not installed? Thanks, Mike On Sunday 25 November 2001 16:19, andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net wrote:
On Sunday 25 November 2001 17:05, Mike Reith wrote:
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :(
Pip J
Do you have mesa-devel.rpm installed? Do an ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so and see where that points to
regards Anders
PS. I don't know what will happen to my From: in this mail. I'm trying to recreate the problem with non-susers getting @suse.com addresses. Apologies to anyone offended by this
I got mine working by downgrading to the stock 2.4.4 kernel, but I was running SuSE's 2.4.7-25 kernel that fixed a local user exploit. This explains why the packages from NVidia didn't work (wrong kernel version), but I don't know why building from "source" doesn't work on 2.4.7-25, perhaps there is something in that kernel that kills the NVdriver module? Anyone running nvidia's drivers on the 2.4.7-25 kernel? Times like this make me hate NVidia for their closed source drivers, but no other card seems like a good choice at this point. Perhaps the Radeons will come along in the next few years (driver wise) . . . Thanks again folks. _nick On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 04:23:22PM -0800, mike reith wrote:
Thanks, Anders. I tried that and the console reported that it did not exist. I assume that it means that Mesa is not installed?
Thanks, Mike
On Sunday 25 November 2001 16:19, andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net wrote:
On Sunday 25 November 2001 17:05, Mike Reith wrote:
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :(
Pip J
Do you have mesa-devel.rpm installed? Do an ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so and see where that points to
regards Anders
PS. I don't know what will happen to my From: in this mail. I'm trying to recreate the problem with non-susers getting @suse.com addresses. Apologies to anyone offended by this
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On Tuesday 27 November 2001 12:49 pm, Nick Webb wrote:
I got mine working by downgrading to the stock 2.4.4 kernel, but I was running SuSE's 2.4.7-25 kernel that fixed a local user exploit. This explains why the packages from NVidia didn't work (wrong kernel version), but I don't know why building from "source" doesn't work on 2.4.7-25, perhaps there is something in that kernel that kills the NVdriver module? Anyone running nvidia's drivers on the 2.4.7-25 kernel? Times like this make me hate NVidia for their closed source drivers, but no other card seems like a good choice at this point. Perhaps the Radeons will come along in the next few years (driver wise) . . .
Thanks again folks. _nick
Nick the source driver NVdriver ends up being installed in a different place from where it is usually found. You may find it here listed as NVdriver: /lib/modules/2.4.13-4GB/kernel/video/ However it won't load as modules.dep points to this place: /lib/modules/2.4.13-4GB/kernel/drivers/video All the video card divers are placed here and your simplest fix is to backup the NVdriver residing in /lib/modules/2.4.13-4GB/kernel/drivers/video and then copy the one from /lib/modules/2.4.13-4GB/kernel/video/ this should make it should work. Alternatively you can hack the Makefile so that it installs into the correct directory. Not sure why this changed so much as never had issues like this until fairly recently. Matt
I am running fine (on a stock 2.4.10 suse kernel) having
downloaded the nvidia drivers from their web site. I also wish
they would open source their driver, but I can't complain about
the performance. It smokes in 3D games.
--- Nick Webb
I got mine working by downgrading to the stock 2.4.4 kernel, but I was running SuSE's 2.4.7-25 kernel that fixed a local user exploit. This explains why the packages from NVidia didn't work (wrong kernel version), but I don't know why building from "source" doesn't work on 2.4.7-25, perhaps there is something in that kernel that kills the NVdriver module? Anyone running nvidia's drivers on the 2.4.7-25 kernel? Times like this make me hate NVidia for their closed source drivers, but no other card seems like a good choice at this point. Perhaps the Radeons will come along in the next few years (driver wise) . . .
Thanks again folks. _nick
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Hi Nick, The reason it started working when you reverted to the stock 2.4.4-4GB kernel is that the NVidia drivers are hardcoded to look for that kernel version string. If you have a look at the driver sources, I think either in the makefile or another configuration file you will see this hardcoded string. To get the drivers to work under a different kernel (eg 2.4.7-25) just edit this string as required. Sorry to be so vague but I am at work and it was my home PC which has the NVidia drivers. If you cannot find the file I am talking about drop me a note and I will check on my PC. Kind regards, Simon Nick Webb wrote:
I got mine working by downgrading to the stock 2.4.4 kernel, but I was running SuSE's 2.4.7-25 kernel that fixed a local user exploit. This explains why the packages from NVidia didn't work (wrong kernel version), but I don't know why building from "source" doesn't work on 2.4.7-25, perhaps there is something in that kernel that kills the NVdriver module? Anyone running nvidia's drivers on the 2.4.7-25 kernel? Times like this make me hate NVidia for their closed source drivers, but no other card seems like a good choice at this point. Perhaps the Radeons will come along in the next few years (driver wise) . . .
Thanks again folks. _nick
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 04:23:22PM -0800, mike reith wrote:
Thanks, Anders. I tried that and the console reported that it did not exist. I assume that it means that Mesa is not installed?
Thanks, Mike
On Sunday 25 November 2001 16:19, andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net wrote:
On Sunday 25 November 2001 17:05, Mike Reith wrote:
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :(
Pip J
Do you have mesa-devel.rpm installed? Do an ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so and see where that points to
regards Anders
PS. I don't know what will happen to my From: in this mail. I'm trying to recreate the problem with non-susers getting @suse.com addresses. Apologies to anyone offended by this
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I'll check this out, but it appears to be just that kernel. I tried building from "source" and it still wouldn't work, but it does on the 2.4.16 kernel. When using the tar version of the driver it *should* work on any 2.4.x kernel . . . right? Anyway, I've got it working on mantel's 2.4.16 kernel, but it crashes half the time when I exit X, and dualhead doesn't work right either. I need a little more time to fiddle, but I feel I'm out of the woods now, thanks. _nick On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:33:17AM +0000, Simon Heaton wrote:
Hi Nick,
The reason it started working when you reverted to the stock 2.4.4-4GB kernel is that the NVidia drivers are hardcoded to look for that kernel version string. If you have a look at the driver sources, I think either in the makefile or another configuration file you will see this hardcoded string. To get the drivers to work under a different kernel (eg 2.4.7-25) just edit this string as required.
Sorry to be so vague but I am at work and it was my home PC which has the NVidia drivers. If you cannot find the file I am talking about drop me a note and I will check on my PC.
Kind regards,
Simon
Nick Webb wrote:
I got mine working by downgrading to the stock 2.4.4 kernel, but I was running SuSE's 2.4.7-25 kernel that fixed a local user exploit. This explains why the packages from NVidia didn't work (wrong kernel version), but I don't know why building from "source" doesn't work on 2.4.7-25, perhaps there is something in that kernel that kills the NVdriver module? Anyone running nvidia's drivers on the 2.4.7-25 kernel? Times like this make me hate NVidia for their closed source drivers, but no other card seems like a good choice at this point. Perhaps the Radeons will come along in the next few years (driver wise) . . .
Thanks again folks. _nick
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 04:23:22PM -0800, mike reith wrote:
Thanks, Anders. I tried that and the console reported that it did not exist. I assume that it means that Mesa is not installed?
Thanks, Mike
On Sunday 25 November 2001 16:19, andjoh@cicada.linux-site.net wrote:
On Sunday 25 November 2001 17:05, Mike Reith wrote:
Nick, I am running the same card with the drivers downloaded from the online update featured in YaST2. @D is fine. I can't get any 3D Glide games to run, however. :(
Pip J
Do you have mesa-devel.rpm installed? Do an ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so and see where that points to
regards Anders
PS. I don't know what will happen to my From: in this mail. I'm trying to recreate the problem with non-susers getting @suse.com addresses. Apologies to anyone offended by this
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On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 01:19, Anders@suse.com wrote:
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Hi Anders, At least this try worked perfectly ..... Wolfi ================================== mailto:wolfi_z@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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