Is this a case for a replacement DVD from the 9.3 Professional package? (Not a rant!)

Peter N. Spotts

27 Jul 2005 27 Jul '05

21:54

Folks, Disclaimer: What you are about to read *is not* a rant. Just the set-up to the question... I took delivery via mail Friday of a shiny boxed set for 9.3 Professional on my Toshiba Satellite 1905-303S laptop. When I tried to install it yesterday, the installation DVD wouldn't read packages unless I deactivated acpi at the outset of the install. Then, a significant fraction of the packages failed to install or couldn't be read in the first place. And when I finally hit the "ignore" button enough times and reached the stage where the installer was setting up the initrd file, the installation just hung up there and went no farther. I tried the installation several times, each one calling for successively fewer files, thinking it might work if I start small, then add programs manually later. But it still hung at initrd. Finally, out of frustration (and perhaps realizing that I qualified), I trucked off to Barnes and Noble about 9:30 last night to buy "SuSE 9.3 for Dummies." The installation using the book's DVD went flawlessly the first time, with acpi activated. Now, knowing that I didn't use the installation DVD from 9.3 Pro, can I still get access to the software on the other four DVDs? Or should I try to get another 9.3 Pro DVD 1 from SuSE, and, gulp, reinstall from that? At this stage, I'd rather chalk it up to experience and move on. But I also like compiling from source whenever I can, and Yast shows a much smaller "development" package tree on the book's DVD (it was tagged as a "special edition" -- which I took to mean stripped down) than I remember seeing on my 9.1 Pro installation. On the few programs I've tried to commpile, some configuration processes say they can't find X headers and libraries; in other cases -- plugins for Gkrellm, for example -- running "make" yields nothing but screens full of error lines. (OTOH, I have discovered the joys of apt!) Is there a way to get Yast to recognize the files on the remaining DVDs? Thanks for any suggestions on this... With best regards, Pete

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James Knott

27 Jul 27 Jul

22:53

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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(OTOH, I have discovered the joys of apt!)

Is there a way to get Yast to recognize the files on the remaining DVDs?

Thanks for any suggestions on this...

With 9.3, Yast can now check the integrety of the data on the disk. Try that, and see what happens (it may take a while). Also, the package includes one DVD and 5 CDs. Either can be used to install SuSE. You can also try copying the DVD contents to the hard drive and installing from there.

Peter N. Spotts

22:58

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD? Pete

martin mcleod

28 Jul 28 Jul

00:53

New subject: [SLE] Is this a case for a replacement DVD from the 9.3 Professional package? (Not a rant!)

On 7/27/05, Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

Pete

-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Open YaST. You will see Media Check. Use this.

Also, set up a SuSE server as a source in YaST and you'll be able to install as many packages as you like.

James Knott

02:20

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

In Yast, Software > Media Check.

B. Stia

04:34

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On Wednesday 27 July 2005 22:20, James Knott wrote:

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

In Yast, Software > Media Check.

And, Peter, You mentioned in a previous post that you use apt-get. Reinstall that, get your 9.3 sources, then do an apt-get update, then an apt-get dist-upgrade. You will probably get 90% of what you want/are missing. If there is anything else you want just apt install it. You won't even have to do a YOU that way because it will get all of the latest packages. Just an alternative for you. Bob S. PS check the DVD anyway.

Ken Schneider

12:31

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On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 00:34 -0400, B. Stia wrote:

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On Wednesday 27 July 2005 22:20, James Knott wrote:

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

In Yast, Software > Media Check.

And, Peter,

You mentioned in a previous post that you use apt-get. Reinstall that, get your 9.3 sources, then do an apt-get update, then an apt-get dist-upgrade. You will probably get 90% of what you want/are missing. If there is anything else you want just apt install it. You won't even have to do a YOU that way because it will get all of the latest packages. Just an alternative for you.

Bob S.

PS check the DVD anyway.

Or simply as a YaST source pointing to 9.3 on your favorite mirror. The ftp site will have any missing software you need. And you should still check the DVD for errors and request a replacement if it is bad. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

James Knott

02:20

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

Please do not send two copies. One to the list is sufficient.

jdd sur free

05:34

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James Knott wrote:

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

Please do not send two copies. One to the list is sufficient.

thatis, this list has the reply to fixed on author. this is good, but gives problem for thouse of us accostumed to news one must hit "reply to all" and delete the authors" mail from the "to" jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

James Knott

11:43

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jdd sur free wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

Please do not send two copies. One to the list is sufficient.

thatis, this list has the reply to fixed on author. this is good, but gives problem for thouse of us accostumed to news

one must hit "reply to all" and delete the authors" mail from the "to"

I have the list in my address book, so I simply highlight the return address and then type "sle", after which the list address appears.

William Gallafent

11:54

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On Thursday 28 July 2005 12:43, James Knott wrote:

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jdd sur free wrote:

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one must hit "reply to all" and delete the authors" mail from the "to"

I have the list in my address book, so I simply highlight the return address and then type "sle", after which the list address appears.

Alternatively, if your mail program supports "Reply to list", as KMail does, then just use that. -- Bill

Allen

20:06

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:54:24PM +0100, William Gallafent wrote:

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On Thursday 28 July 2005 12:43, James Knott wrote:

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jdd sur free wrote:

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one must hit "reply to all" and delete the authors" mail from the "to"

I have the list in my address book, so I simply highlight the return address and then type "sle", after which the list address appears.

Alternatively, if your mail program supports "Reply to list", as KMail does, then just use that.

Or use Mutt, and press CTRL L and the list reply pops up itself.

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-- Bill

-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Jerry Feldman

20:25

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On Thursday 28 July 2005 4:06 pm, Allen wrote:

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Or use Mutt, and press CTRL L and the list reply pops up itself. KMail has a reply-to list icon. With Sylpheed, all incoming email is filtered, and I set the properties on various folders to reply to the appropriate list. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9

Ken Schneider

12:33

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On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 07:34 +0200, jdd sur free wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Many thanks...but how does one go about checking the integrity of the DVD?

Please do not send two copies. One to the list is sufficient.

thatis, this list has the reply to fixed on author. this is good, but gives problem for thouse of us accostumed to news

one must hit "reply to all" and delete the authors" mail from the "to"

jdd

Or use a good email program like kmail or evolution and use the reply to list feature to reply. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

roach

27 Jul 27 Jul

23:26

New subject: [SLE] Is this a case for a replacement DVD from the 9.3 Professional package? (Not a rant!)

On Wednesday 27 July 2005 23:54, Peter N. Spotts wrote: <...>

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Now, knowing that I didn't use the installation DVD from 9.3 Pro, can I still get access to the software on the other four DVDs?

Yes, YaST > Software > Change Source of Installation > Add ...

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Or should I try to get another 9.3 Pro DVD 1 from SuSE, and, gulp, reinstall from that?

Yes and No. You paid for it, you should have a working DVD, but check it with md5sum first. Reinstall, why? If it works, there's no need to fix it. <...>

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Is there a way to get Yast to recognize the files on the remaining DVDs?

Answered. <...> Best of luck. -- Robert "roach" Spencer Pietermaritzburg South Africa

Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd

28 Jul 28 Jul

13:44

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Peter N. Spotts wrote:

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Folks,

Disclaimer: What you are about to read *is not* a rant. Just the set-up to the question...

I took delivery via mail Friday of a shiny boxed set for 9.3 Professional on my Toshiba Satellite 1905-303S laptop. When I tried to install it yesterday, the installation DVD wouldn't read packages unless I deactivated acpi at the outset of the install.

Hello there.Well, you have one clue. The acpi is clashing with whatever dma the Toshiba is using. You might want to try the nodma selection if you wish to retry install. Awhile some people say that would make a slower install, you will be able to get your install done. Using the failsafe will help as well, then you remove each one of the switches until the laptop locks up. Then you have a clue. Laptop installs is an art in itself, and I install SuSE in a lot of funky machines. You can install generic Linux in equipment with flaky RAM , soft RAM or limited hard RAM memories install. It does its best to recover, awhile Windose just does a blue screen with a cryptic error. Before you do anything else, download the tidbits from moblix.org or google laptops linux and go the section for your Toshiba. Read this and then see if anything pertains to your computer hardware. Let us know. Adam SuSE 9.3 on Compaq Presario 1200 .8 Ghz 360M 80G

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Then, a significant fraction of the packages failed to install or couldn't be read in the first place. And when I finally hit the "ignore" button enough times and reached the stage where the installer was setting up the initrd file, the installation just hung up there and went no farther.

I tried the installation several times, each one calling for successively fewer files, thinking it might work if I start small, then add programs manually later. But it still hung at initrd.

Finally, out of frustration (and perhaps realizing that I qualified), I trucked off to Barnes and Noble about 9:30 last night to buy "SuSE 9.3 for Dummies." The installation using the book's DVD went flawlessly the first time, with acpi activated.

Now, knowing that I didn't use the installation DVD from 9.3 Pro, can I still get access to the software on the other four DVDs? Or should I try to get another 9.3 Pro DVD 1 from SuSE, and, gulp, reinstall from that?

At this stage, I'd rather chalk it up to experience and move on. But I also like compiling from source whenever I can, and Yast shows a much smaller "development" package tree on the book's DVD (it was tagged as a "special edition" -- which I took to mean stripped down) than I remember seeing on my 9.1 Pro installation.

On the few programs I've tried to commpile, some configuration processes say they can't find X headers and libraries; in other cases -- plugins for Gkrellm, for example -- running "make" yields nothing but screens full of error lines.

(OTOH, I have discovered the joys of apt!)

Is there a way to get Yast to recognize the files on the remaining DVDs?

Thanks for any suggestions on this...

With best regards,

Pete

Peter N. Spotts

29 Jul 29 Jul

15:00

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A belated many thanks to all for the suggestions. They've been extremely helpful... With best regards, Pete -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peter N. Spotts | Science Correspondent The Christian Science Monitor One Norway Street, Boston MA 02115 Office: 617-450-2449 | Office in home: 508-520-3139 Email: pspotts@alum.mit.edu | www.csmonitor.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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