I am running SUSE9.2 and have recently done a YaST upgrade to KDE3.4. Now, when I boot, I get a pile of messages when it gets to KDM. I have tried to find out what they all mean and if they are of importance, but have failed miserably! So I am asking the list for advice. Here are the messages, which all start with the date and time (which I am omitting to make things more concise): linux kernel: hw_random: RNG not detected linux kernel: ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: hdc: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB cache linux kernel: hdd: ATAPI 52x DVD-ROM drive, 256kB cache linux kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 340 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 0.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 212 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ALSA sound /pci/ac97/ac97-codec. c:2026: ac'97 analog subsections not ready linux ifup: No configuration found for sit0 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 I imagine that some of them are simply telling me what drives I have, but it is the error messages I would please like some guidance on. The only problem I have found since upgrading to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message. Googling doesn't help, and I can't find anything in the archives. So any advice will be very gratefully received. Many thanks Keith
Keith Powell wrote:
The only problem I have found since upgrading to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message.
No, it is an arts problem. Try rebuilding the arts src.rpm and install the resulting rpms, i.e. rpmbuild --rebuild --target=<your target arch> arts*src.rpm (or replace * with full name) as root, the rpms will be in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/<your arch> -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:31, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
The only problem I have found since upgrading to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message.
No, it is an arts problem. Try rebuilding the arts src.rpm and install the resulting rpms, i.e. rpmbuild --rebuild --target=<your target arch> arts*src.rpm (or replace * with full name) as root, the rpms will be in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/<your arch>
Thanks for the advice, Joe, and telling me that it was an arts problem. Things have been rather hectic here today. That is why there has been a delay in replying to your posting. First I tried replacing arts the easy way before rebuilding it from source! Using YaST, I reinstalled arts from the DVD. System sounds worked again, but I got a KDElibs dependancy error message - needed a later version of arts. So, I replaced arts1.3.0-11 from the DVD, with the latest 1.4.0-8. No System sounds again! Then I installed 1.3.0-11 again from source, using your method. Sounds came back, but the error message was there. I will investigate the problem further when I have time. Thanks again for your help. Keith
I thought it was better to change the subject! On Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:31, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
The only problem I have found since upgrading SUSE9.2 to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message.
No, it is an arts problem. Try rebuilding the arts src.rpm and install the resulting rpms, i.e. rpmbuild --rebuild --target=<your target arch> arts*src.rpm (or replace * with full name) as root, the rpms will be in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/<your arch>
Sorry, Joe, but I can't get this to work! If I try reinstalling the original RPM off the 9.2 DVD, to replace the latest version (which 3.4 needs), it insists on downgrading most of KDE back to 3.3. Trying your method of rebuilding the arts source from the DVD, tells me it needs about 30 dependences sorting out. Having spent ages sorting the dependences, the arts source won't build. But I may be doing something very wrong with the rebuilding. I have checked .kde/knotifyrc and that is correct with everything set to "true". So I appear to have the choice of either 3.4 and no system sounds, or 3.3 with system sounds. That is, unless you or anyone else has another suggestion, please. Has no-one else had these sound problems upgrading SUSE9.2 to 3.4? Any further advice will be very much appreciated. Thanks Keith
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Sun, 08 May 2005, by ruben@mrbrklyn.com:
I'm getting some strange bounce messages from this list having to do with orbz.org, which I thought was dead in the first place.
Anyone know whats going on?
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SUCCESS!! On Sunday 08 May 2005 14:10, Keith Powell wrote:
I thought it was better to change the subject!
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:31, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
The only problem I have found since upgrading SUSE9.2 to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message.
No, it is an arts problem. Try rebuilding the arts src.rpm and install the resulting rpms, i.e. rpmbuild --rebuild --target=<your target arch> arts*src.rpm (or replace * with full name) as root, the rpms will be in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/<your arch>
Sorry, Joe, but I can't get this to work!
If I try reinstalling the original RPM off the 9.2 DVD, to replace the latest version (which 3.4 needs), it insists on downgrading most of KDE back to 3.3.
Trying your method of rebuilding the arts source from the DVD, tells me it needs about 30 dependences sorting out. Having spent ages sorting the dependences, the arts source won't build.
But I may be doing something very wrong with the rebuilding.
I have checked .kde/knotifyrc and that is correct with everything set to "true".
I edited the file /opt/kde3/bin/startkde so that the line: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit was split into two lines: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit and I now have system sounds. Cheers Keith
On Sun, May 8, 2005 8:10 am, Keith Powell said:
I thought it was better to change the subject!
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:31, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Keith Powell wrote:
The only problem I have found since upgrading SUSE9.2 to KDE3.4 is that I have lost the system sounds, but I can play CDs. I am wondering if this is tied up with the ALSA sound error message.
No, it is an arts problem. Try rebuilding the arts src.rpm and install the resulting rpms, i.e. rpmbuild --rebuild --target=<your target arch> arts*src.rpm (or replace * with full name) as root, the rpms will be in /usr/src/packages/RPMS/<your arch>
Sorry, Joe, but I can't get this to work!
If I try reinstalling the original RPM off the 9.2 DVD, to replace the latest version (which 3.4 needs), it insists on downgrading most of KDE back to 3.3.
Trying your method of rebuilding the arts source from the DVD, tells me it needs about 30 dependences sorting out. Having spent ages sorting the dependences, the arts source won't build.
But I may be doing something very wrong with the rebuilding.
I have checked .kde/knotifyrc and that is correct with everything set to "true".
So I appear to have the choice of either 3.4 and no system sounds, or 3.3 with system sounds. That is, unless you or anyone else has another suggestion, please.
Has no-one else had these sound problems upgrading SUSE9.2 to 3.4?
Any further advice will be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Keith
Hi Keith. open: /opt/kde3/bin/startkde locate the incorrect line that reads: "LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit" edit the line so that it's separated into two different lines: LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit This fixed KDE sounds for me when rebuilding the RPM's from scratch didn't work. Happy editing. -- Jake Sallee spark@breathdedeeply.com www.breathedeeply.com Registered Linux User #358012 http://counter.li.org Novell SuSE Linux Pro 9.2 http://www.suse.com K Desktop Environment 3.4 http://www.kde.org Linux Kernel 2.6.8 http://www.kernel.org Firefox 1.0.3 Web Browser http://www.getfirefox.com verified virus free by Usermail.com
On Sunday 08 May 2005 18:11, Jake Sallee wrote:
Hi Keith.
open: /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
locate the incorrect line that reads: "LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit"
edit the line so that it's separated into two different lines:
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Just as an FYI, this is exactly equivalent to simply deleting the LD_BIND_NOW=true part. The syntax "VARIABLE=value command" means that the variable will have the value for the duration of the command, but to not affect subsequent commands. So LD_BIND_NOW=true is effectively a non-operation. It sets the value and then deletes it again.
Hi, On Sunday 08 May 2005 11:16, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 18:11, Jake Sallee wrote:
Hi Keith.
open: /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
locate the incorrect line that reads: "LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit"
edit the line so that it's separated into two different lines:
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Just as an FYI, this is exactly equivalent to simply deleting the LD_BIND_NOW=true part.
The syntax "VARIABLE=value command" means that the variable will have the value for the duration of the command, but to not affect subsequent commands. So
LD_BIND_NOW=true
is effectively a non-operation. It sets the value and then deletes it again.
This is only true if there is no "export LD_BIND_NOW" statement either earlier in the script, if the LD_BIND_NOW variable was initially inherited from the environment when the "startkde" script was invoked, or if such an export statement appears somewhere between the variable setting and the invocation of "kdeinit". I don't believe any of those conditions obtain here, but I wanted to clarify the general interpretation of the variable-setting and exporting syntax of BASH. Randall Schulz
On Sunday 08 May 2005 08:16, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 08 May 2005 18:11, Jake Sallee wrote:
Hi Keith.
open: /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
locate the incorrect line that reads: "LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit"
edit the line so that it's separated into two different lines:
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
Just as an FYI, this is exactly equivalent to simply deleting the LD_BIND_NOW=true part.
The syntax "VARIABLE=value command" means that the variable will have the value for the duration of the command, but to not affect subsequent commands. So
LD_BIND_NOW=true
is effectively a non-operation. It sets the value and then deletes it again.
So if we have no sound is this a 'good' way to solve the problem? Thanks, Jerome
On Monday 09 May 2005 00:31, Susemail wrote:
So if we have no sound is this a 'good' way to solve the problem?
I have seen many people mention this as a solution, so I guess it's 'good'. At least if it works for you I was just saying splitting the line in two is unnecessary, since it's exactly the same as just deleting the first part of the line. But it's not harmful either, so either way will have the same effect
On Sunday 08 May 2005 11:11, Jake Sallee wrote:
Sorry, Joe, but I can't get this to work!
If I try reinstalling the original RPM off the 9.2 DVD, to replace the latest version (which 3.4 needs), it insists on downgrading most of KDE back to 3.3.
Trying your method of rebuilding the arts source from the DVD, tells me it needs about 30 dependences sorting out. Having spent ages sorting the dependences, the arts source won't build.
But I may be doing something very wrong with the rebuilding.
I have checked .kde/knotifyrc and that is correct with everything set to "true".
So I appear to have the choice of either 3.4 and no system sounds, or 3.3 with system sounds. That is, unless you or anyone else has another suggestion, please.
Has no-one else had these sound problems upgrading SUSE9.2 to 3.4?
Any further advice will be very much appreciated.
Thanks
Keith
Hi Keith.
open: /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
locate the incorrect line that reads: "LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit"
edit the line so that it's separated into two different lines:
LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit
This fixed KDE sounds for me when rebuilding the RPM's from scratch didn't work.
Happy editing.
I've also found that this is broken in 9.3. The problem carried over for me from SuSE 9.2 to 9.3. I did not upgrade, it was a fresh 9.3 install. So basically this is still broken. Jake Sallee
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 17:35, Jake Sallee wrote:
I've also found that this is broken in 9.3. The problem carried over for me from SuSE 9.2 to 9.3. I did not upgrade, it was a fresh 9.3 install. So basically this is still broken.
Jake Sallee
Oh yah, and one more thing. No KDE sounds. Looks like I'm going to be rebuilding arts from scratch again. It didn't work last time.
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 11:57, Keith Powell wrote:
I am running SUSE9.2 and have recently done a YaST upgrade to KDE3.4.
Now, when I boot, I get a pile of messages when it gets to KDM. I have tried to find out what they all mean and if they are of importance, but have failed miserably! So I am asking the list for advice. Here are the messages, which all start with the date and time (which I am omitting to make things more concise):
linux kernel: hw_random: RNG not detected linux kernel: ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: hdc: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB cache linux kernel: hdd: ATAPI 52x DVD-ROM drive, 256kB cache linux kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 340 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 0.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 212 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ALSA sound /pci/ac97/ac97-codec. c:2026: ac'97 analog subsections not ready linux ifup: No configuration found for sit0
These are all messages from your latest boot, log messages various programs and kernel modules give out when they start/load
linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
This just means you don't have a floppy in the drive. There's a program running that polls your drives (the one that gives you popup dialogs when you put a CD in the tray) and it tries to see if you have a floppy present. If you don't, the above is what you will see
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 18:24, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 11:57, Keith Powell wrote:
I am running SUSE9.2 and have recently done a YaST upgrade to KDE3.4.
Now, when I boot, I get a pile of messages when it gets to KDM. I have tried to find out what they all mean and if they are of importance, but have failed miserably! So I am asking the list for advice. Here are the messages, which all start with the date and time (which I am omitting to make things more concise):
linux kernel: hw_random: RNG not detected linux kernel: ip6_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: hdc: ATAPI 52x CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB cache linux kernel: hdd: ATAPI 52x DVD-ROM drive, 256kB cache linux kernel: ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Net filter core team linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 2.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 340 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ip_conntrack version 0.1 (4093 buckets, 32744 max) - 212 bytes per conntrack linux kernel: ALSA sound /pci/ac97/ac97-codec. c:2026: ac'97 analog subsections not ready linux ifup: No configuration found for sit0
These are all messages from your latest boot, log messages various programs and kernel modules give out when they start/load
linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 linux kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
This just means you don't have a floppy in the drive. There's a program running that polls your drives (the one that gives you popup dialogs when you put a CD in the tray) and it tries to see if you have a floppy present. If you don't, the above is what you will see
Thanks very much for the explanation. I'm pleased that they are only for information and are not error messages. Cheers Keith
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