Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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p_s

22 Feb 2003 22 Feb '03

11:12

Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "p_s" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have newly installed 8.1 pro and I got most of the stuff updated with YOU, and when the day was over I tried to turn off my workstation... to just founf out that it won't.

I get to poin where the screen says:

The system will be halted immidiately Runlevel 0 reached...

but the box won't turn off

Any ideas ?

P_s

This happens either if you have turned apm=off as a kernel parameter or if you use SMP. In the second case add : apm=power-off as kernel parameter.

Where / how to do these settings... P_s

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Catimimi

22 Feb 22 Feb

11:26

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----- Original Message ----- From: "p_s" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "p_s" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have newly installed 8.1 pro and I got most of the stuff updated with YOU, and when the day was over I tried to turn off my workstation... to just founf out that it won't.

I get to poin where the screen says:

The system will be halted immidiately Runlevel 0 reached...

but the box won't turn off

Any ideas ?

P_s

This happens either if you have turned apm=off as a kernel parameter or if you use SMP. In the second case add : apm=power-off as kernel parameter.

Where / how to do these settings...

P_s

you have to edit the file : /boot/grub/menu.lst and on the first line beginning by "kernel" you have the available kernel parameters either get rid of apm=off or add apm=power-off catimimi

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Jerome Lyles

23 Feb 23 Feb

07:09

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On Saturday 22 February 2003 03:26, Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "p_s" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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Catimimi wrote: -------------------snip----------------

Where / how to do these settings...

P_s

you have to edit the file : /boot/grub/menu.lst and on the first line beginning by "kernel" you have the available kernel parameters either get rid of apm=off or add apm=power-off

catimimi

I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should I create it? Jerome.

Catimimi

09:40

New subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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On Saturday 22 February 2003 03:26, Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "p_s" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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Catimimi wrote: -------------------snip----------------

Where / how to do these settings...

P_s

you have to edit the file : /boot/grub/menu.lst and on the first line beginning by "kernel" you have the available kernel parameters either get rid of apm=off or add apm=power-off

catimimi

I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should I create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot. In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by append. Catimimi.

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Jerome Lyles

24 Feb 24 Feb

06:48

New subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should

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create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot.

In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by append.

Catimimi.

I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off " to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off " The system still won't shut down completely. Jerome.

Catimimi

09:01

New subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should

I

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create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot.

In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by

append.

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Catimimi.

I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off "

to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings. Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ? Do you use SMP ( two processors) ? If so your append line could be : append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off" Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows. Catimimi.

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Shawn Tanner

25 Feb 25 Feb

01:03

New subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

On Monday 24 February 2003 02:01, Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should

I

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create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot.

In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by

append.

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Catimimi.

I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off "

to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings.

Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ?

Do you use SMP ( two processors) ?

If so your append line could be :

append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off"

Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows.

Catimimi.

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I have Suse 8.1 pro with an abit kx7-333 motherboard. I have the same shutdown problem discussed in this thread. My append line looks like: "hdc=ide-scsi hdg=ide-scsi pci=acpi vga=788". I have also tried without the pci=acpi and it still won't shut down. It shuts down fine with win98 and I do not have smp.

Abraham Bloom

01:35

New subject: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

Shawn, You must have APM compiled in your kernel to make this work. Do not have ACPI compiled with the APM as I do not believe you need ACPI unless you have a laptop. Abraham Shawn Tanner wrote:

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On Monday 24 February 2003 02:01, Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should

I

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create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot.

In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by

append.

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Catimimi.

I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off "

to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings.

Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ?

Do you use SMP ( two processors) ?

If so your append line could be :

append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off"

Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows.

Catimimi.

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I have Suse 8.1 pro with an abit kx7-333 motherboard. I have the same shutdown problem discussed in this thread. My append line looks like: "hdc=ide-scsi hdg=ide-scsi pci=acpi vga=788". I have also tried without the pci=acpi and it still won't shut down. It shuts down fine with win98 and I do not have smp.

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Shawn Tanner

15:19

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On Monday 24 February 2003 18:35, Abraham Bloom wrote:

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Shawn,

You must have APM compiled in your kernel to make this work. Do not have ACPI compiled with the APM as I do not believe you need ACPI unless you have a laptop.

Abraham

Shouldn't APM be compiled into the kernel by default? I haven't changed the kernel from the initially installed one.

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Shawn Tanner wrote:

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On Monday 24 February 2003 02:01, Catimimi wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "suse-linux-e" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I have this problem too, menu.lst doesn't exist on my systems. How should

I

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create it? Jerome.

You certainly use Lilo and not Grub at boot.

In the case of Lilo, you have to edit the file /etc/lilo.conf and either delete apm=off or add apm=power-off on the first line beginning by

append.

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Catimimi.

I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off "

to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings.

Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ?

Do you use SMP ( two processors) ?

If so your append line could be :

append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off"

Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows.

Catimimi.

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I have Suse 8.1 pro with an abit kx7-333 motherboard. I have the same shutdown problem discussed in this thread. My append line looks like: "hdc=ide-scsi hdg=ide-scsi pci=acpi vga=788". I have also tried without the pci=acpi and it still won't shut down. It shuts down fine with win98 and I do not have smp.

-- Abraham Bloom, CISSP | The New Testament offers the basis for modern abrahambloom@comcast.net | computer coding theory, in the form of an X/motif/c/shell/perl | affirmation of the binary number system. Sys V/BSD/Linux/Sco |

| But let your communication be Yea, yea; nay, | nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh | of evil. -- Matthew 5:37

Jerome Lyles

01:41

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I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off "

to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings.

Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ?

Do you use SMP ( two processors) ?

If so your append line could be :

append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off"

Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows.

Catimimi.

Yes, the computer shuts down completely with Windows. My kernel is not SMP: orion@cosmos:~> rpm -qa | grep "^k_" k_athlon-2.4.19-66 Here is my /etc/lilo.conf file: # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Wed Feb 12 15:57:17 2003 boot = /dev/hda vga = 771 read-only menu-scheme = Wg:kw:Wg:Wg lba32 prompt timeout = 80 message = /boot/message image = /boot/vmlinuz label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd root = /dev/hda7 append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off " image = /boot/vmlinuz.shipped label = suse initrd = /boot/initrd.shipped optional root = /dev/hda7 other = /dev/hda1 label = windows optional image = /boot/memtest.bin label = memtest86

Marshall Heartley

11:24

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image = /boot/vmlinuz label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd root = /dev/hda7 append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

<snip> Why is the option for acpi=off in your file twice? Some computers in order to shutdown need the acpi turned on. Mine does. Without it, I have to power down manually. Of course, you may have a reason to have it disabled. Just my thoughts. I think that you can remove one of the duplicate entrys though. -- Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."

Catimimi

14:46

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerome Lyles" To: "Catimimi" ; "suse-linux-e" Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] shutdown fails on 8.1

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I edited this : append = " ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off

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to look like this: append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

The system still won't shut down completely.

Jerome.

First this line has unusefull duplicated entries. Second it looks like the entry for the Safe settings.

Don't you have another "append" entry : the first one ?

Do you use SMP ( two processors) ?

If so your append line could be :

append = " ide=nodma acpi=off apm=power-off"

Please send me your file /etc/lilo.conf and tell be if your kernel is SMP and if your machine shutdown completely with Windows.

Catimimi.

Yes, the computer shuts down completely with Windows.

My kernel is not SMP:

orion@cosmos:~> rpm -qa | grep "^k_" k_athlon-2.4.19-66

Here is my /etc/lilo.conf file:

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Wed Feb 12 15:57:17 2003

boot = /dev/hda vga = 771 read-only menu-scheme = Wg:kw:Wg:Wg lba32 prompt timeout = 80 message = /boot/message

image = /boot/vmlinuz label = linux initrd = /boot/initrd root = /dev/hda7 append = " ide=nodma acpi=off ide=nodma acpi=off "

image = /boot/vmlinuz.shipped label = suse initrd = /boot/initrd.shipped optional root = /dev/hda7

other = /dev/hda1 label = windows optional

image = /boot/memtest.bin label = memtest86

I've no more ideas, check that apm is compiled in your kernel and/or test the new 2.4.20 kernel from Mantel. The apm management was greatly improved. But if you follow this group I had problems with sound which were solved. Anyway delete the duplicated entries in lilo.conf. Catimimi.

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Serge Naggar

01:15

New subject: kde replaced by gnome

I use suse 8.1 with kde 3.0 A few days ago I used Ximian's red carpet [trial] to download Evolution 1.2.2. To do so I had to agree to lose the installed version of gnucash. Does anybody know if there is a compatible [with evolution 1.2.2] version? Recently I noticed that my kde desktop [/home/scn/] has been mostly replaced by nautilus. I wonder if the d/l of evolution 1.2.2 has corrupted the kde? Does anybody know how to get the full kde destop back. I enter /home/scn with the kde desktop selected and it seems to stay kde until evolution opens. All ideas welcome. thanks serge

John Pettigrew

09:08

New subject: [SLE] kde replaced by gnome

In a previous message, Serge Naggar wrote:

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Recently I noticed that my kde desktop [/home/scn/] has been mostly replaced by nautilus.

What's happened is that you're still running KDE, but nautilus is also running and is configured to manage your desktop. It is doing this because, at some point, when running Evolution, you chose the Help option or something similar, which launched Nautilus (in the same way that other apps will launch Konqueror under Gnome - both these are nasty and we users should really be able to control which file manager is launched!). The way to get out of this is to run nautilus from a terminal to bring up a nautilus window. Then, go to Edit->Preferences, choose the Desktop & Trash panel and deselect "Use nautilus to draw the desktop". Et voila! HTH John (Should this perhaps go into the FAQ? It's come up a few times recently.) -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!

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