[Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

JW

30 Nov 2001 30 Nov '01

18:26

Hey, I've hit a weird one. Most likely I'm just overlooking something but I don't know what, hopefully some one can point it out to me. I have a server running Apache, all setup in the main server section. Just now I tried to add a name based virtual host and the NBVH seems to be "taking over" the main server config. It's pretty wierd. In other words, when I request the original _non_ virtual host's URL, I'm getting the pages for the NBVH instead. After reading http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/examples.html#default it seems to me that this is not right: "Using such a default vhost with a wildcard port effectively prevents any request going to the main server." Presumign that "main server" does _not_ mean main _virtual_ server, this sounds to me like as long as I don't have a "_default_:*" NBVH set, any requests send to the server that don't match a NBVH should go to the main server config. But that is not happening. If all of the above is confusing, just think of it this way: the NBVH is hijacking all requests going to the server. How do I get the NBVH to not interfere with the main server configuration? Do I have set up a NBVH for the main server config too? I know I _can_, but do I _have_ to? Here's the sum of everything I changed when I added the NBVH: BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost> If I comment those things out everything goes back to normal for the main server. Any ideas how to get a regular server and NBVH to peacefully co-exist? ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

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zentara

30 Nov 30 Nov

19:39

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JW wrote:

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I've hit a weird one. Most likely I'm just overlooking something but I don't know what, hopefully some one can point it out to me.

I have a server running Apache, all setup in the main server section. Just now I tried to add a name based virtual host and the NBVH seems to be "taking over" the main server config. It's pretty wierd. In other words, when I request the original _non_ virtual host's URL, I'm getting the pages for the NBVH instead.

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Presumign that "main server" does _not_ mean main _virtual_ server, this sounds to me like as long as I don't have a "_default_:*" NBVH set, any requests send to the server that don't match a NBVH should go to the main server config. But that is not happening.

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BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost>

If I comment those things out everything goes back to normal for the main server.

Any ideas how to get a regular server and NBVH to peacefully co-exist?

I have limited experience with this, but I'm pretty sure you need a different ip address for the virtual host. If you give the same ip for the virtual as for the main, the last one listed in the config is in effect. If your main server ip is 216.205.93.46 and is assigned to eth0; then you should assign 216.205.93.47 (or whatever you have assigned to you) to your virtual host, then run ifconfig eth0 add 216.205.93.47 then your 2 addresses can come in on the same ethernet card, main as eth0, and the virtual as eth0:0 I heard that there is some technique for having a bunch of virtual hosts all on the same ip address, but most isps don't like it, as it messes up their dns. If you are stuck with 1 ip address, you could always resort to putting your virtualhosts in individual homedirs and accessing them with ~ off of the main server. Hope it helped, maybe other network experts will expound or clarify this.

Jeffrey Taylor

22:00

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

Name based virtual hosting only works for HTTP 1.1. Most clients are HTTP 1.0. Use IP address based virtual hosting if you can. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting JW :

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Hey,

I've hit a weird one. Most likely I'm just overlooking something but I don't know what, hopefully some one can point it out to me.

I have a server running Apache, all setup in the main server section. Just now I tried to add a name based virtual host and the NBVH seems to be "taking over" the main server config. It's pretty wierd. In other words, when I request the original _non_ virtual host's URL, I'm getting the pages for the NBVH instead.

After reading http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/examples.html#default it seems to me that this is not right:

"Using such a default vhost with a wildcard port effectively prevents any request going to the main server."

Presumign that "main server" does _not_ mean main _virtual_ server, this sounds to me like as long as I don't have a "_default_:*" NBVH set, any requests send to the server that don't match a NBVH should go to the main server config. But that is not happening.

If all of the above is confusing, just think of it this way: the NBVH is hijacking all requests going to the server. How do I get the NBVH to not interfere with the main server configuration?

Do I have set up a NBVH for the main server config too? I know I _can_, but do I _have_ to?

Here's the sum of everything I changed when I added the NBVH:

BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost>

If I comment those things out everything goes back to normal for the main server.

Any ideas how to get a regular server and NBVH to peacefully co-exist?

Jonathan Wilson System Administrator

Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

Greg Johnson

22:41

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

Quoting Jeffrey Taylor :

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Name based virtual hosting only works for HTTP 1.1. Most clients are HTTP 1.0. Use IP address based virtual hosting if you can.

This is not correct. Name Based Virtual Hosting has been working well since the 3.x based browsers. Most clients are indeed HTTP 1.1 capable.

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Do I have set up a NBVH for the main server config too? I know I _can_, but do I _have_ to?

I think so.

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Here's the sum of everything I changed when I added the NBVH:

BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost>

I have the BindAddress commented out. I do not have a port number on the NameVirtualHost address (just ip) Then I have a VirtualHost section for EVERY domain that is served, including the native one. I hope this helps. Greg gjohnson@frozen.com

JW

23:09

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

At 04:41 PM 11/30/2001 -0600, you wrote:

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Quoting Jeffrey Taylor :

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Name based virtual hosting only works for HTTP 1.1. Most clients are HTTP 1.0. Use IP address based virtual hosting if you can.

This is not correct. Name Based Virtual Hosting has been working well since the 3.x based browsers. Most clients are indeed HTTP 1.1 capable.

Agreed.

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Do I have set up a NBVH for the main server config too? I know I _can_, but do I _have_ to?

I think so.

yeah, I came to that unfortunate conclusion about 3 hours ago :-/

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Here's the sum of everything I changed when I added the NBVH:

BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost>

I have the BindAddress commented out.

Ok. I can't really figure out if I need it or not, it doesn't seem to make any difference but docs I read made it look like I should use it :-?

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I do not have a port number on the NameVirtualHost address (just ip) Then I have a VirtualHost section for EVERY domain that is served, including the native one.

I think have to use port number or it interferes with the SSL host. (at least I know for sure that using * in the post number interferes with the SSL vhost because I tried setting up a and it ate the SSL vhost for lunch :-)

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I hope this helps.

It does, thanks.

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Greg gjohnson@frozen.com

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Jeffrey Taylor

23:43

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Not according to my Apache access logs. In fact, I see no HTTP 1.1 clients in it at all. Jeffrey Quoting Greg Johnson :

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Quoting Jeffrey Taylor :

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Name based virtual hosting only works for HTTP 1.1. Most clients are HTTP 1.0. Use IP address based virtual hosting if you can.

This is not correct. Name Based Virtual Hosting has been working well since the 3.x based browsers. Most clients are indeed HTTP 1.1 capable.

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Do I have set up a NBVH for the main server config too? I know I _can_, but do I _have_ to?

I think so.

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...
Here's the sum of everything I changed when I added the NBVH:

BindAddress * NameVirtualHost 216.205.93.46:80 ServerAdmin joe@claborn.net DocumentRoot /home/webhome/clickpatrol DirectoryIndex cpeindex.php ServerName www.clickpatroleurope.com ServerAlias clickpatroleurope.com ErrorLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-error_log CustomLog logs/clickpatroleurope.com-access_log combined </VirtualHost>

I have the BindAddress commented out. I do not have a port number on the NameVirtualHost address (just ip) Then I have a VirtualHost section for EVERY domain that is served, including the native one.

I hope this helps.

Greg gjohnson@frozen.com

-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

JW

1 Dec 1 Dec

00:30

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

At 05:43 PM 11/30/2001 -0600, you wrote:

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Not according to my Apache access logs. In fact, I see no HTTP 1.1 clients in it at all.

Jeffrey

Dude most everything is 1.1 now. ccs003:~ # grep "HTTP/1.1" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 2079 ccs003:~ # grep "HTTP/1.0" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 1553 ---------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

Jeffrey Taylor

03:01

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] Using main server config _and_ virtual hosting?

# grep "HTTP/1.1" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 0 # grep "HTTP/1.0" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 12023 4 to 3 is hardly "most everything". So you plan on building a web site that doesn't work for over forty percent of visitors? Interesting. Jeffrey Quoting JW :

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At 05:43 PM 11/30/2001 -0600, you wrote:

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Not according to my Apache access logs. In fact, I see no HTTP 1.1 clients in it at all.

Jeffrey

Dude most everything is 1.1 now.

ccs003:~ # grep "HTTP/1.1" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 2079

ccs003:~ # grep "HTTP/1.0" /var/log/httpd/access_log |wc -l 1553

Jonathan Wilson System Administrator

Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com

-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

Tage

4 Dec 4 Dec

12:31

New subject: [Apache] logfile

I have got ar record strange record in my logfile, i have two apache servers on the net and the record are on both server. 217.227.118.117 - - [04/Dec/2001:13:11:37 +0100] "GET http://217.227.118.117:8283/ HTTP/1.0" 200 2843 anybody know what this means?? Thanks Best regards Tage Danielsen Denmark tage@htd-information.dk

Jeffrey Taylor

16:21

New subject: [SLE] [Apache] logfile

This is an access record. Someone at 217.227.118.117 requested a page at port 8283 of the same IP address. The status was 200 (OK) and 2843 bytes were returned. Is the IP address yours? Either someone is spoofing your address or Apache is talking to itself. Can you show some more context? Running nslookup gives pD9E37675.dip.t-dialin.net. I think that's a German ISP. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Tage :

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I have got ar record strange record in my logfile, i have two apache servers on the net and the record are on both server.

217.227.118.117 - - [04/Dec/2001:13:11:37 +0100] "GET http://217.227.118.117:8283/ HTTP/1.0" 200 2843

anybody know what this means?? Thanks

-- I don't do Windows and I don't come to work before nine. -- Johnny Paycheck

Tage

16:40

New subject: SV: [SLE] [Apache] logfile

I have a danish IP 193.241.88.210 and there is only that record in the logfile on both servers, i have been looking on the internet and found another site with the link http://www.incidents.org/archives/intrusions/msg01083.html I don't know what is happen, and what i have to do to be safe?? Best regards Tage Danielsen Denmark ************************************************************************** -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Jeffrey Taylor [mailto:jeff.taylor@ieee.org] Sendt: 4. december 2001 17:22 Til: suse-linux-e@suse.com Emne: Re: [SLE] [Apache] logfile This is an access record. Someone at 217.227.118.117 requested a page at port 8283 of the same IP address. The status was 200 (OK) and 2843 bytes were returned. Is the IP address yours? Either someone is spoofing your address or Apache is talking to itself. Can you show some more context? Running nslookup gives pD9E37675.dip.t-dialin.net. I think that's a German ISP. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Tage :

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I have got ar record strange record in my logfile, i have two apache

servers

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on the net and the record are on both server.

217.227.118.117 - - [04/Dec/2001:13:11:37 +0100] "GET http://217.227.118.117:8283/ HTTP/1.0" 200 2843

anybody know what this means?? Thanks

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