Re: [opensuse] Beginner: ALL fonts are blurred
wget http://www.osresources.com/files/centos-windows-fonts/fontconfig.tbz
su -c 'tar xvjpf fontconfig.tbz -C /etc/fonts/'
Enter both lines in Konsole. Having entered the second line, you will be prompted for your Root password.
I did that. Having internet connection, the computer did start doing something. It said something like "connecting ..." and then "resolving ...." and then it stopped. So, I rebooted the computer as instructed. As far as I can tell nothing has changed. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 28/11/09 18:07, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
wget http://www.osresources.com/files/centos-windows-fonts/fontconfig.tbz
su -c 'tar xvjpf fontconfig.tbz -C /etc/fonts/'
Enter both lines in Konsole. Having entered the second line, you will be prompted for your Root password.
I did that. Having internet connection, the computer did start doing something. It said something like "connecting ..." and then "resolving ...." and then it stopped.
They've surreptitiously changed the link, the cads. It's currently http://www.osresources.com.previewdns.com/files/centos-windows-fonts/fontcon... For the sake of configurability, though, I'd follow Sven's advice and instead use the Fonts settings in KDE's System Settings panel (under Look & Feel -> Appearance). FWIW, the configuration I'm currently most happy with is; Anti-aliasing set to "Enabled", hinting set to "Full", with the excluded range set from 8p to 15p (as per the default).
So, I rebooted the computer as instructed. As far as I can tell nothing has changed.
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instead use the Fonts settings in KDE's System Settings panel (under Look & Feel -> Appearance).
I tried ALL options I found in that section. - Go to Configure Desktop > Appearance > Fonts - Set Use anti-aliasing to Enabled - Click Configure - Check Use sub-pixel rendering and set Hinting style to Full This may have produced a minor increase in sharpness of the characters associated with icons etc. YET, if I were ever be able to actually work with Linux, I would not stare 10 hours a day at icons, but at the text area of word processors, spread sheets, browsers, dictionaries etc. As far as I can tell NOTHING in the display has changed here. Fonts using alphabet are somewhat better, but all fonts Linux installed when I added a secondary language (here Japanese) are simply blurred. Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" .... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 04 Dec 2009 14:56:53 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
instead use the Fonts settings in KDE's System Settings panel (under Look & Feel -> Appearance).
I tried ALL options I found in that section. - Go to Configure Desktop > Appearance > Fonts - Set Use anti-aliasing to Enabled - Click Configure - Check Use sub-pixel rendering and set Hinting style to Full
This may have produced a minor increase in sharpness of the characters associated with icons etc. YET, if I were ever be able to actually work with Linux, I would not stare 10 hours a day at icons, but at the text area of word processors, spread sheets, browsers, dictionaries etc. As far as I can tell NOTHING in the display has changed here. Fonts using alphabet are somewhat better, but all fonts Linux installed when I added a secondary language (here Japanese) are simply blurred.
Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" ....
I have to a certain extent being watching this thread and can honestly say i can see no difference between font rendering between Linux and that M$ Corp infestation called windows are you sure you do not have a problem with hardware somewhere along the line , Or are you getting all in a tis because you are an Ex mac user as they always seem to find fault with everything non Mac personally it's the other way round i can never find anything Right with an of the MAC range Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 15:18 up 13 days 5:08, 4 users, load average: 0.81, 0.58, 0.50
Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" ....
I have to a certain extent being watching this thread and can honestly say i can see no difference between font rendering between Linux and that M$ Corp infestation called windows are you sure you do not have a problem with hardware somewhere along the line
I'm curious too. I have Win7 installed and booted to that and tried to do a serious comparison to a document open in OpenOffice.org, looking at the font clarity, crispness etc, and then booted back to openSUSE 11.2 and opened the same document. I cannot see a difference. Both are equally sharp and crisp. My hardware is an Acer AL2016W TFT monitor, and a nVidia GX260 video card. Without being in your office and seeing exactly what you're seeing I can only guess here, and.. grasping at proverbial straws, I'm also wondering if it's something to do with a combination of hardware... What monitor are you looking at this on? What video card? Maybe.. maybe the clue to what is going wrong is in that information? Does a screen capture show the blurriness you're talking about? C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 4.3.1 I had blurry fonts too. I changed themes (rt clik>Desktop Settings) and it was fine. I think that if you change anything to do with any font dialogue it works too. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" ....
Hi, I have been watching this thread to learn something from the gurus about what is going on should I run into this problem.
I had a problem with font display when I built a new computer recently, I am not sure if it is the same problem that you are experiencing. My LCD screen has a 1366x768 native resolution, and fonts looked ok when I was using standard linux video driver, but not great. When I installed an nvidia graphics card and installed the nvidia driver in the following systems, the font display was pretty poor in Linux, BSD, and Windows. Just by accident I found that I could make a dramatic improvement in the quality of the font display by changing the desktop resolution to 1024x768, and changing the default refresh rate from 52 to 53 or 54 using the desktop settings menu in Kmenu>system settings>Display>Size & Orientation. What was poor became crisp and clear. Maybe this will be a simple fix for the problem you are experiencing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday December 4 2009, Mark Misulich wrote:
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I had a problem with font display when I built a new computer recently, I am not sure if it is the same problem that you are experiencing. My LCD screen has a 1366x768 native resolution, and fonts looked ok when I was using standard linux video driver, ...
Just by accident I found that I could make a dramatic improvement in the quality of the font display by changing the desktop resolution to 1024x768, ... What was poor became crisp and clear.
It's very unlikely that using the monitor at anything other than its native resolution will give the best results. One of my monitors actually shows an alert momentarily when you drive it at other than its native resolution.
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Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/4/2009 6:10 PM, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Friday December 4 2009, Mark Misulich wrote:
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I had a problem with font display when I built a new computer recently, I am not sure if it is the same problem that you are experiencing. My LCD screen has a 1366x768 native resolution, and fonts looked ok when I was using standard linux video driver, ...
Just by accident I found that I could make a dramatic improvement in the quality of the font display by changing the desktop resolution to 1024x768, ... What was poor became crisp and clear.
It's very unlikely that using the monitor at anything other than its native resolution will give the best results. One of my monitors actually shows an alert momentarily when you drive it at other than its native resolution.
Thats what I was thinking. I wonder if this was an "Advertised" resolution of 1366x768. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/4/2009 6:56 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
As far as I can tell NOTHING in the display has changed here. Fonts using alphabet are somewhat better, but all fonts Linux installed when I added a secondary language (here Japanese) are simply blurred.
You are just going to have to find a way to post a screen shot because obviously no one else is seeing blurry fonts. There are multiple free image hosting sites for this. We haven't a clue what you are talking about. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 01:26:53 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
instead use the Fonts settings in KDE's System Settings panel (under Look & Feel -> Appearance).
I tried ALL options I found in that section. - Go to Configure Desktop > Appearance > Fonts - Set Use anti-aliasing to Enabled - Click Configure - Check Use sub-pixel rendering and set Hinting style to Full
This may have produced a minor increase in sharpness of the characters associated with icons etc. YET, if I were ever be able to actually work with Linux, I would not stare 10 hours a day at icons, but at the text area of word processors, spread sheets, browsers, dictionaries etc. As far as I can tell NOTHING in the display has changed here. Fonts using alphabet are somewhat better, but all fonts Linux installed when I added a secondary language (here Japanese) are simply blurred.
Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" ....
What type of monitor are you using? Is it an LCD? What is its native resolution? What resolution are you running your Linux desktop at? If you're not running at the native resolution of the LCD screen, no amount of fiddling will produced the sharpest display possible... -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 04/12/09 14:56, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
instead use the Fonts settings in KDE's System Settings panel (under Look & Feel -> Appearance).
I tried ALL options I found in that section. - Go to Configure Desktop > Appearance > Fonts - Set Use anti-aliasing to Enabled - Click Configure - Check Use sub-pixel rendering and set Hinting style to Full
This may have produced a minor increase in sharpness of the characters associated with icons etc.
Did you check the "Exclude range" box in the "Configure Anti-Alias Settings" dialogue box? Also, in Font Settings, change each instance of "Sans Serif" to "Arial" and "Monospace" to "Courier New".
YET, if I were ever be able to actually work with Linux, I would not stare 10 hours a day at icons, but at the text area of word processors, spread sheets, browsers, dictionaries etc. As far as I can tell NOTHING in the display has changed here. Fonts using alphabet are somewhat better, but all fonts Linux installed when I added a secondary language (here Japanese) are simply blurred.
Are the Japanese glyphs drawn from (i.e. part of) the MS fonts?
Does that mean that it is under Linux not possible to produce a clear, sharp rendering of the text on the screen? If that is so, does EVERYBODY (except me) finds this normal and acceptable? Somehow I prefer to think, that is not the case and there must be some way to achieve a "clear picture" ....
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