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"Albert, Oszkó"

29 Jan 2013 29 Jan '13

12:36

Hi all, Finally it became necessary to have some printing facility from my oS 12.2 KDE 4.9.5 machine. There are two available printers in our workgroup (this time it is a group of people). The first is a HP network printer with fixed IP. The other is also a HP and connected via USB to a Win XP box, also with fix IP. Both printers work fine from Win machines. I read tons of documents in the last days, but none of them could be made even to spin up its toner. I tried to set them up with CUPS and also with YAST. Also installed hp-plugin. The network printer's IP can be pinged, and I see the other as a share with samba. Tried firewalls on and off on both machines, but to no avail. I need some help because I am totally confused by now. Thanks for any hints. Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

29 Jan 29 Jan

12:50

* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 07:39]:

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Finally it became necessary to have some printing facility from my oS 12.2 KDE 4.9.5 machine. There are two available printers in our workgroup (this time it is a group of people). The first is a HP network printer with fixed IP. The other is also a HP and connected via USB to a Win XP box, also with fix IP. Both printers work fine from Win machines. I read tons of documents in the last days, but none of them could be made even to spin up its toner. I tried to set them up with CUPS and also with YAST. Also installed hp-plugin. The network printer's IP can be pinged, and I see the other as a share with samba. Tried firewalls on and off on both machines, but to no avail.

install hplip, it will bring some other packages zypper -v in hplip then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip. except for an occasional, unexplained loss of netowrk connection, I have no problem scanning or printing from my networked hp color laserjet 2840 from openSUSE Tumbleweed or win7 from five computers, and can ssh in and print from remote. Google's remote print service will print once after initializing system/service, but no more :^(. gud luk, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

"Albert, Oszkó"

15:01

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2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 07:39]:

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Finally it became necessary to have some printing facility from my oS 12.2 KDE 4.9.5 machine. There are two available printers in our workgroup (this time it is a group of people). The first is a HP network printer with fixed IP. The other is also a HP and connected via USB to a Win XP box, also with fix IP. Both printers work fine from Win machines. I read tons of documents in the last days, but none of them could be made even to spin up its toner. I tried to set them up with CUPS and also with YAST. Also installed hp-plugin. The network printer's IP can be pinged, and I see the other as a share with samba. Tried firewalls on and off on both machines, but to no avail. install hplip, it will bring some other packages zypper -v in hplip

then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip.

except for an occasional, unexplained loss of netowrk connection, I have no problem scanning or printing from my networked hp color laserjet 2840 from openSUSE Tumbleweed or win7 from five computers, and can ssh in and print from remote. Google's remote print service will print once after initializing system/service, but no more :^(.

gud luk, Hi,

Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side. Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

ellanios82

15:21

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On 01/29/2013 05:01 PM, "Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page

- could it be necessary to use Yast to un-install printers, then running "hp-setup" as a fresh start?? ............. best regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

"Albert, Oszkó"

30 Jan 30 Jan

09:24

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2013-01-29 16:21 keltezéssel, ellanios82 írta:

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On 01/29/2013 05:01 PM, "Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page

- could it be necessary to use Yast to un-install printers, then running "hp-setup" as a fresh start??

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best regards

Did that - no result. Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

29 Jan 29 Jan

17:09

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 10:02]:

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2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip.

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

Yes, when you manually give the ip, just the ip, and just the ip addr within your "local" network (but I guess as long as the ip works, local would not be required). Mine is 192.168.1.12. If you are going to use 160.114.20.70, *that* is what you should provide manually. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Ken Schneider - openSUSE

21:38

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On 01/29/2013 12:09 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 10:02]:

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2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip.

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

Yes, when you manually give the ip, just the ip, and just the ip addr within your "local" network (but I guess as long as the ip works, local would not be required). Mine is 192.168.1.12. If you are going to use 160.114.20.70, *that* is what you should provide manually.

I think the bigger problem is using public addresses on a local network. Since that address is tied to a public host it naturally will return a ping request. You need to change your local network addresses to a non-routable private network. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

22:15

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Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 01/29/2013 12:09 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 10:02]:

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2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip.

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

Yes, when you manually give the ip, just the ip, and just the ip addr within your "local" network (but I guess as long as the ip works, local would not be required). Mine is 192.168.1.12. If you are going to use 160.114.20.70, *that* is what you should provide manually.

I think the bigger problem is using public addresses on a local network. Since that address is tied to a public host it naturally will return a ping request.

Only if there is no local route for 160.114.20.70.

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You need to change your local network addresses to a non-routable private network.

That would be advisable, yes. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

30 Jan 30 Jan

07:23

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Per Jessen wrote:

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Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 01/29/2013 12:09 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 10:02]:

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2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta:

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then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip.

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

Yes, when you manually give the ip, just the ip, and just the ip addr within your "local" network (but I guess as long as the ip works, local would not be required). Mine is 192.168.1.12. If you are going to use 160.114.20.70, *that* is what you should provide manually.

I think the bigger problem is using public addresses on a local network. Since that address is tied to a public host it naturally will return a ping request.

Only if there is no local route for 160.114.20.70.

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You need to change your local network addresses to a non-routable private network.

That would be advisable, yes.

Actually, it seems that 160.114.0.0/32 belongs to the University of Szeged, so using it is fine :-) I would not have left it open for the world, though. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (6.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

"Albert, Oszkó"

09:32

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2013-01-30 08:23 keltezéssel, Per Jessen írta:

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Per Jessen wrote:

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Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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On 01/29/2013 12:09 PM, Patrick Shanahan pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

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* "Albert, Oszkó" [01-29-13 10:02]:

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then I have the best luck using hp-setup as root from command-line to install printer. I also on the first page use manual to assign the printer ip. Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually

2013-01-29 13:50 keltezéssel, Patrick Shanahan írta: the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side. Yes, when you manually give the ip, just the ip, and just the ip addr within your "local" network (but I guess as long as the ip works, local would not be required). Mine is 192.168.1.12. If you are going to use 160.114.20.70, *that* is what you should provide manually.

I think the bigger problem is using public addresses on a local network. Since that address is tied to a public host it naturally will return a ping request. Only if there is no local route for 160.114.20.70.

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You need to change your local network addresses to a non-routable private network. That would be advisable, yes.

Actually, it seems that 160.114.0.0/32 belongs to the University of Szeged, so using it is fine :-)

I would not have left it open for the world, though.

I agree all of you regarding the public availability of the network printer. But I am not the sysadmin of this network, and not a sysadmin at all, only a slightly more than beginner linux user who sometimes would need to print directly to the office of his boss. This is beacuse I use some sofware he cannot open (in MS programs) so printing to another building is better than sending the file containing the graph, for example. But i am eager, so how could you see that this prinert belongs to the University of Szeged. What commands tell it? Best regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

09:43

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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I agree all of you regarding the public availability of the network printer. But I am not the sysadmin of this network, and not a sysadmin at all, only a slightly more than beginner linux user who sometimes would need to print directly to the office of his boss. This is beacuse I use some sofware he cannot open (in MS programs) so printing to another building is better than sending the file containing the graph, for example. But i am eager, so how could you see that this prinert belongs to the University of Szeged. What commands tell it?

Best regards, Albert

Hi Albert "whois 160.114.20.70" will tell you. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Eric Gunther

09:51

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On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 10:43 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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I agree all of you regarding the public availability of the network printer. But I am not the sysadmin of this network, and not a sysadmin at all, only a slightly more than beginner linux user who sometimes would need to print directly to the office of his boss. This is beacuse I use some sofware he cannot open (in MS programs) so printing to another building is better than sending the file containing the graph, for example. But i am eager, so how could you see that this prinert belongs to the University of Szeged. What commands tell it?

Best regards, Albert

Hi Albert

"whois 160.114.20.70" will tell you.

-- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland.

Also, if you want to check from an external source, independent of your system, there are alot of online (advertisement payed) ways to do it, like; network-tools.com -e -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott

29 Jan 29 Jan

21:58

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

I can see that print server over the Internet. Are you sure you want it to be publicly reachable. System Information Print Server Name: 3P_PrintServ293B49 System Contact: System Location: System Up Time: 1 day, 9:29:32 Firmware Version: 6.02.39E (2006/03/21 16:11:30) MAC Address: 00-40-01-29-3B-49 E-Mail Alert: Disabled -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

"Albert, Oszkó"

30 Jan 30 Jan

09:36

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2013-01-29 22:58 keltezéssel, James Knott írta:

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

I can see that print server over the Internet. Are you sure you want it to be publicly reachable.

System Information Print Server Name: 3P_PrintServ293B49 System Contact: System Location: System Up Time: 1 day, 9:29:32 Firmware Version: 6.02.39E (2006/03/21 16:11:30) MAC Address: 00-40-01-29-3B-49 E-Mail Alert: Disabled

Dear James, I did not know it is publicly accessible, even from your site. You can also print a test page, if you want. Could you tell me how did you got the info you wrote in your mail? Regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

09:44

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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2013-01-29 22:58 keltezéssel, James Knott írta:

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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Thanks for the tips. I already have hplip installed. I also tried running hp-setup but stuck at the first page. i chose network/ethernet printer and no device was found. I gave manually the IP (160.114.20.70 - HP 2300 dn PCL6) and the printer was not found. Pinged the IP and of course it can be pinged. Something muist be here on my side.

I can see that print server over the Internet. Are you sure you want it to be publicly reachable.

System Information Print Server Name: 3P_PrintServ293B49 System Contact: System Location: System Up Time: 1 day, 9:29:32 Firmware Version: 6.02.39E (2006/03/21 16:11:30) MAC Address: 00-40-01-29-3B-49 E-Mail Alert: Disabled

Dear James,

I did not know it is publicly accessible, even from your site. You can also print a test page, if you want. Could you tell me how did you got the info you wrote in your mail?

By pointing his browser to the IP-address you specified. (I specifically omit an actual URL). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.2°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott

12:49

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"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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Could you tell me how did you got the info you wrote in your mail?

I opened the address you provided in my browser. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Per Jessen

29 Jan 29 Jan

13:35

"Albert, Oszkó" wrote:

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Hi all,

Finally it became necessary to have some printing facility from my oS 12.2 KDE 4.9.5 machine. There are two available printers in our workgroup (this time it is a group of people). The first is a HP network printer with fixed IP. The other is also a HP and connected via USB to a Win XP box, also with fix IP. Both printers work fine from Win machines. I read tons of documents in the last days, but none of them could be made even to spin up its toner. I tried to set them up with CUPS and also with YAST. Also installed hp-plugin. The network printer's IP can be pinged, and I see the other as a share with samba. Tried firewalls on and off on both machines, but to no avail.

I need some help because I am totally confused by now.

I guess you have a cups-server running somewhere? Have you got the printers configured correctly there? The correct PPDs etc. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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