[opensuse] ATI Driver Surprise
Hi, When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. According to the Konqueror sysinfo:/ display, it is: Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: RV350 AR Driver: radeon (3D Support) (Not a high-end card by today's standards, but glxgears indicates about 2500 FPS.) Where did this driver come from? I have a friend who did an openSUSE 11.1 install on a Dell Optiplex 755 with an ATI Radeon (specific model unknown to me at the moment, but it's one of these: ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 PRO or ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 XT) and he didn't get a 3D driver. So the questions I have are: 1) Where did my driver come from? 2) Why didn't my friend's installation yield an ATI driver? Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. ...
Not directly relevant, but right after posting that message, I looked again at the YaST Additional Package Repositories page (http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories) and noticed that now there are ATI driver packages for 11.1. To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo! Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. ...
Not directly relevant, but right after posting that message, I looked again at the YaST Additional Package Repositories page (http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories) and noticed that now there are ATI driver packages for 11.1.
To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo!
Alas, premature and irrational exuberance. I installed this driver and now have no 3D at all. And while sysinfo:/ shows this: Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: ATI RADEON 9600 Series (RV350/RV360 4152) Driver: Unknown flg_glxgears and glxgears yield this: % fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14 % glxgears X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14 Stellarium and Celestia now hang at start-up and have to be killed. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. ...
Not directly relevant, but right after posting that message, I looked again at the YaST Additional Package Repositories page (http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories) and noticed that now there are ATI driver packages for 11.1.
To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo!
Alas, premature and irrational exuberance. I installed this driver and now have no 3D at all. And while sysinfo:/ shows this:
Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: ATI RADEON 9600 Series (RV350/RV360 4152) Driver: Unknown
flg_glxgears and glxgears yield this:
% fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
% glxgears X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
Stellarium and Celestia now hang at start-up and have to be killed.
Randall Schulz
Hi Randall Have you checked Xorg.0.log i had this on the laptop running 11.1 and ATI video using fglrx it was a lib problem cant remember exactly whic one aint got the lappy runninmg right now . maybe not the right way to fix the problem but i ended up making a symlink to the correct lib location .. HTH Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday January 14 2009, peter nikolic wrote:
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
...
To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo!
Alas, premature and irrational exuberance. I installed this driver and now have no 3D at all. And while sysinfo:/ shows this:
...
Stellarium and Celestia now hang at start-up and have to be killed.
Randall Schulz
Hi Randall
Have you checked Xorg.0.log i had this on the laptop running 11.1 and ATI video using fglrx it was a lib problem cant remember exactly whic one aint got the lappy runninmg right now .
maybe not the right way to fix the problem but i ended up making a symlink to the correct lib location ..
I ran "aticonfig", after which things work. Sadly, the FPS for glxgears is significantly worse than it was with the driver that comes bundled with openSUSE 11.1. Oddly enough, though, Stellarium reports a much higher FPS than it did under the previous driver. Celestia seems faster, too, but I don't see an option to enable an FPS display in that app, so I have only a subjective sense based on just a little prior use. I guess I'll install Google Earth and see how that behaves. It's the thing (besides Second Life) for which I have the best feel for 3D performance.
HTH
Pete .
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On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, peter nikolic wrote:
On Wednesday 14 January 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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I ran "aticonfig", after which things work.
Sadly, the FPS for glxgears is significantly worse than it was with the driver that comes bundled with openSUSE 11.1. Oddly enough, though, Stellarium reports a much higher FPS than it did under the previous driver. Celestia seems faster, too, but I don't see an option to enable an FPS display in that app, so I have only a subjective sense based on just a little prior use.
I guess I'll install Google Earth and see how that behaves. It's the thing (besides Second Life) for which I have the best feel for 3D performance.
HTH
Pete .
Randall Schulz
Yes i noticed the the frame rate was poor too saay the least dont think it toped 200 FPS using fgl_glxgears standard glxgears wound not run moanig about the libs again but wanting them back the other way Ho Humm Spose I'll get to looking at it one time althou i did choose to build a distro specific package but it still got it wrong . Cheers Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:54:17 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. ...
Not directly relevant, but right after posting that message, I looked again at the YaST Additional Package Repositories page (http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories) and noticed that now there are ATI driver packages for 11.1.
To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo!
Alas, premature and irrational exuberance. I installed this driver and now have no 3D at all. And while sysinfo:/ shows this:
Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: ATI RADEON 9600 Series (RV350/RV360 4152) Driver: Unknown
flg_glxgears and glxgears yield this:
% fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
% glxgears X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
Stellarium and Celestia now hang at start-up and have to be killed.
Randall Schulz
It is mess with driver itself. It can't load DRI module. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:54:17 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Wednesday January 14 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. ...
Not directly relevant, but right after posting that message, I looked again at the YaST Additional Package Repositories page (http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories) and noticed that now there are ATI driver packages for 11.1.
To quote our Homeric Hero: Woo-Hoo!
Alas, premature and irrational exuberance. I installed this driver and now have no 3D at all. And while sysinfo:/ shows this:
Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: ATI RADEON 9600 Series (RV350/RV360 4152) Driver: Unknown
flg_glxgears and glxgears yield this:
% fgl_glxgears Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
% glxgears X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 143 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
Stellarium and Celestia now hang at start-up and have to be killed.
In the 64 bit install, there is a problem with the 32 bit fglrx_dri.so. You can go to /usr/lib/dri and rename the current fglrx_dri.so and then ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so
This got the fglrx driver working for me. C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 January 2009, clarkt@cnsp.com wrote:
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 11:54:17 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
In the 64 bit install, there is a problem with the 32 bit fglrx_dri.so. You can go to /usr/lib/dri and rename the current fglrx_dri.so and then ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so
This got the fglrx driver working for me.
C
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On Thursday 15 January 2009 06:28:19 am clarkt@cnsp.com wrote: ...
In the 64 bit install, there is a problem with the 32 bit fglrx_dri.so. You can go to /usr/lib/dri and rename the current fglrx_dri.so and then ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so
This got the fglrx driver working for me.
I did it and still no change in behavior. I'll try that again when I wind out why ati installer breaks in the middle of compilation. It stops when it can't copy file to directory. After removing files it bombs out on the same place and files are again there, so it seems like it is trying copy twice and in second attempt runs in its own file, and stops. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 16 January 2009, Rajko M. wrote:
On Thursday 15 January 2009 06:28:19 am clarkt@cnsp.com wrote: ...
In the 64 bit install, there is a problem with the 32 bit fglrx_dri.so. You can go to /usr/lib/dri and rename the current fglrx_dri.so and then ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so
This got the fglrx driver working for me.
I did it and still no change in behavior. I'll try that again when I wind out why ati installer breaks in the middle of compilation. It stops when it can't copy file to directory. After removing files it bombs out on the same place and files are again there, so it seems like it is trying copy twice and in second attempt runs in its own file, and stops.
-- Regards, Rajko
Have you tried using the option to build for the distro i usee it native first time and had it fail part way thru then used the specific distro option to pick suse 11.1 and it went thru just need the symlinks as above to work fully although frame rates are a bit poor For some reason there seems to be a lot of variation in the way a lot of software behaves both on install and once running between different installs of the same version on similar hardware this is something that needs nailing down it has been prevelent for too long now Cheers Pete . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Rajko M.:
I did it and still no change in behavior. I'll try that again when I wind out why ati installer breaks in the middle of compilation. It stops when it can't copy file to directory. After removing files it bombs out on the same place and files are again there, so it seems like it is trying copy twice and in second attempt runs in its own file, and stops.
Doesn't work for me either, but I'm on SUSE 10.3 rather than 11 and using the build from the ati repo for 10.3, so maybe it's not relevant. Still annoying that I only get frame speeds around 250, though. Cheers Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello Listmates, On Friday 16 January 2009 10:11:38 am Peter Bradley wrote:
Doesn't work for me either, but I'm on SUSE 10.3 rather than 11 and using the build from the ati repo for 10.3, so maybe it's not relevant.
I had posted this a few weeks back on my issue with the ATI driver. I built and installed mine as a distro specific per the ATI instructions. My DRI didn't work either which kept the 3D from working. In fact, the xgl stuff over all seemed pretty messed up. I'm running a X64 installation using 11.1. I found that it was referencing the 32 bit location instead of the 64 bit. This is an ATI issue not a SuSE. This is my work around fix if it helps.... /var/log/xorg.0.log error in calling /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so when using a 64 bit system Delete the /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so and assign a link to the x64 version... then check it with ls -ls 15 cd /usr/lib/dri/ 16 rm fglrx_dri.so 17 ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so fglrx_dri.so 18 ls -ls 19 init 3 -- Thank you, Michael.A.Sterba -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Michael A. Sterba:
This is my work around fix if it helps.... /var/log/xorg.0.log error in calling /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so when using a 64 bit system
Delete the /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so and assign a link to the x64 version... then check it with ls -ls
15 cd /usr/lib/dri/ 16 rm fglrx_dri.so 17 ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so fglrx_dri.so 18 ls -ls 19 init 3
Hi Michael, Thanks for that. Unfortunately, though, I now only get 120FPS in glxgears as opposed to 250 previously. It's lucky I'm not into fast graphics in a big way :-) I think the lesson I've learnt from this is to stay away from ATI next time. Cheers Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello Peter On Saturday 17 January 2009 08:29:28 am Peter Bradley wrote:
Thanks for that. Unfortunately, though, I now only get 120FPS in glxgears as opposed to 250 previously. It's lucky I'm not into fast graphics in a big way :-)
I understand. Unfortunately, sometimes we are stuck with what comes in a system. My FPS using glxgears is around 2650-2700. I have 3d enabled with the work around previously described. Now with that said, I should be in the 4-6K range so there is something within the last few released drivers that doesn't render well. On a positive note, ATI is now at least releasing updates monthly so with a little bit of luck and having our fingers crossed, it will be addressed very soon. -- Thank you, Michael.A.Sterba ARS - KG7HQ Assistant Director/Technical Specialist Northwest Division, ARRL kg7hq@arrl.net http://www.kg7hq.wetnet.net APRS: kg7hq, kg7hq-9, Sedro Digi Echolink node:158264 Jabber: kg7hq@jabber.wetnet.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:29:28 +0100, Peter Bradley
Ysgrifennodd Michael A. Sterba:
This is my work around fix if it helps.... /var/log/xorg.0.log error in calling /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so when using a 64 bit system
Delete the /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so and assign a link to the x64 version... then check it with ls -ls
15 cd /usr/lib/dri/ 16 rm fglrx_dri.so 17 ln -s /usr/lib64/dri/fglrx_dri.so fglrx_dri.so 18 ls -ls 19 init 3
Hi Michael,
Thanks for that. Unfortunately, though, I now only get 120FPS in glxgears as opposed to 250 previously. It's lucky I'm not into fast graphics in a big way :-)
I think the lesson I've learnt from this is to stay away from ATI next time.
Cheers
Peter
Have you tried turning off 'wait for vertical refresh' in the ATI control panel? Glxgears went from 60(!) to 5000 fps when I did. The 3d-performance doesn't really bother me, not getting decent video playback is a whole lot worse.. Kjartan -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ysgrifennodd Kjartan Geble Olsen:
Have you tried turning off 'wait for vertical refresh' in the ATI control panel? Glxgears went from 60(!) to 5000 fps when I did.
The 3d-performance doesn't really bother me, not getting decent video playback is a whole lot worse..
Kjartan
HI Kjartan, Hmm. Well that shows something. The ATI control panel says that the drivers are not installed or not working (I paraphrase). I've no idea what to do about that. Everything seems to install OK. Cheers Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday January 18 2009, Peter Bradley wrote:
Ysgrifennodd Kjartan Geble Olsen:
Have you tried turning off 'wait for vertical refresh' in the ATI control panel?
Glxgears went from 60(!) to 5000 fps when I did.
The 3d-performance doesn't really bother me, not getting decent video playback is a whole lot worse..
Kjartan
HI Kjartan,
Hmm. Well that shows something. The ATI control panel says that the drivers are not installed or not working (I paraphrase). I've no idea what to do about that. Everything seems to install OK.
What is the name of this "control panel?" I can't seem to find it.
Cheers
Peter
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On Sunday January 18 2009, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday January 18 2009, Peter Bradley wrote:
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Hmm. Well that shows something. The ATI control panel says that the drivers are not installed or not working (I paraphrase). I've no idea what to do about that. Everything seems to install OK.
What is the name of this "control panel?" I can't seem to find it.
Well, by looking at the executables in the file list of x11-video-fglrxG01 I eventually found "amdcccle" which is the "ATI Catalyst Control Center." Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Randall: 3d is broken by ATI in the 8-12 release. Go back and download the 8-9 driver from: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux64/radeonprevious-linux64.html Then build the rpm with: ati-driver-installer-8-9-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg <choose from below> SuSE/SLED10-IA32 SuSE/SLES10-IA32 SuSE/SLED10-AMD64 SuSE/SLES10-AMD64 SuSE/SUSE102-IA32 SuSE/SUSE103-IA32 SuSE/SUSE110-IA32 SuSE/SUSE102-AMD64 SuSE/SUSE103-AMD64 SuSE/SUSE110-AMD64 You will need kernel sources installed. If you have suse 11.1, then you are stuck with the 8-12 driver until the 9-1 driver is released sometime this month :-( On openSuSE 10.3 and 11.0, the 8-9 driver is a helluva lot faster than 8-10 through 8-12 by about 45%. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Le Wednesday 14 January 2009 18:16:00 Randall R Schulz, vous avez écrit :
Hi,
When I completed my initial openSUSE 11.1 installation I was surprised to see that I had an ATI driver installed. According to the Konqueror sysinfo:/ display, it is:
Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: RV350 AR Driver: radeon (3D Support)
(Not a high-end card by today's standards, but glxgears indicates about 2500 FPS.)
Where did this driver come from? I have a friend who did an openSUSE 11.1 install on a Dell Optiplex 755 with an ATI Radeon (specific model unknown to me at the moment, but it's one of these: ATI Radeon X1300, ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 PRO or ATI Radeon™ HD 2400 XT) and he didn't get a 3D driver.
So the questions I have are:
1) Where did my driver come from? 2) Why didn't my friend's installation yield an ATI driver?
Randall Schulz
Hi, What I think is that the new open source radeon driver (radeon) -included in the kernel (?)- is now able to provide hardware 3D acceleration for this kind of "old" cards. Thus you might not need the proprietary driver from ATI (fglrx). However the ATI driver may perform better (or may not ;-)) and surely provides much more capabilities. In your case, it seems that the fglrx driver outperforms the opensource one. And yes glxgears (and fgl_glxgears) are not true benchmarking tools. They are only useful to test wether the hardware acceleration is used or not. Matthias -- / \ /_!_\ My e-mail address has just changed. Please note the new one : matthias.titeux@inserm.fr _____________________________________________________________ Matthias Titeux, PhD Département de génétique des maladies cutanées et allergiques dans des modèles animaux et chez l'homme. INSERM U563 - CPTP Pavillon Lefebvre, 5ème étage CHU Purpan BP3028 31024 Toulouse cedex 03 __________________________________________________________ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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