Hi! I have a randomly occurring problem on my suse 9.2 (fully patched via YOU and upgraded to KDE 3.3.2 via yast/supplementary updates). What happens is that my mouse cursor disappears sometimes, and the system stops responding to any mouse events. It happens rather rarely and on random, so I can not reproduce this, nor to guess about possible causes. Other than this, system works stably and reliably, with long uptimes. When I restart X, all goes fine again. Mouse cursor shows up and everything works as normal. But, I use my suse as a desktop/office machine and it is very annoying when you have to close and restart everything in the middle of your work... Is this seen by other members of the list? Are there possible explanations or solutions, maybe? I hope at least that there might be some kind of workaround (like restarting some process, initiating system to scan and discover the mouse again or such...), but was not able to find anything useful on my own... Any kind of help, please... Reply: I have the same kind of problem but not exactly. I haven't pursued it yet because in my case it might be hardware or software, and I can work around it as follows: My cursor locks at sporadic intervals, but the system continues to operate (clock, keyboard, etc). I use Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the logout dialogue box and hit return since the "Logout" button is highlighted. This saves everything. I then logout completely since startx will not restore the mouse operation at this point. I need to logon as root to shutdown, reboot and then all is fine for logging in again with everything being restored automatically including a working mouse. I'm not sure this will help you if you cannot use Ctrl-Alt-Del to get out of your session. The mouse problem might be software and similar. Like you it does not happen very often, and I cannot identify any pattern. Until now I've lived with it. Gary -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 14:42 +0000, Tiscali Gary D Chance wrote:
Hi!
I have a randomly occurring problem on my suse 9.2 (fully patched via YOU and upgraded to KDE 3.3.2 via yast/supplementary updates).
What happens is that my mouse cursor disappears sometimes, and the system stops responding to any mouse events. It happens rather rarely and on random, so I can not reproduce this, nor to guess about possible causes. Other than this, system works stably and reliably, with long uptimes.
When I restart X, all goes fine again. Mouse cursor shows up and everything works as normal. But, I use my suse as a desktop/office machine and it is very annoying when you have to close and restart everything in the middle of your work...
Is this seen by other members of the list? Are there possible explanations or solutions, maybe?
I hope at least that there might be some kind of workaround (like restarting some process, initiating system to scan and discover the mouse again or such...), but was not able to find anything useful on my own...
Any kind of help, please...
Reply:
I have the same kind of problem but not exactly. I haven't pursued it yet because in my case it might be hardware or software, and I can work around it as follows:
My cursor locks at sporadic intervals, but the system continues to operate (clock, keyboard, etc). I use Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the logout dialogue box and hit return since the "Logout" button is highlighted. This saves everything.
I then logout completely since startx will not restore the mouse operation at this point. I need to logon as root to shutdown, reboot and then all is fine for logging in again with everything being restored automatically including a working mouse.
I'm not sure this will help you if you cannot use Ctrl-Alt-Del to get out of your session. The mouse problem might be software and similar. Like you it does not happen very often, and I cannot identify any pattern. Until now I've lived with it.
Gary
I am pretty sure that it is not hardware. It never happened with suse9.1 and WinXP (I am not quite positive, but it might be that it even worked OK with 9.2 before yast updates). As far as I can see, my case is different from yours in this: I do not have to shutdown/reboot - it' enough just to restart X session...Also, when I dio ctrl-alt-del my screen locks and it's not possible to do any further or backward action. I can not use arrow keys to switch the buttons, or esc to go back. I *must* restart my X with ctrl-alt-backspace...It appears to be the only key combination that works once after I do ctrl-alt-del... I still wait for some magic recipe from members of this list... ;-) cikasole
I'm always humored by people being sure it isn't hardware because previous versions (and especially winDOZE) works on something. I have DEFINITELY seen first hand problems with hardware that weren't apparent until a latest and greatest OS/kernel gets installed that is finally able to push said hardware to the level it was designed. You hear this allot on this list. Especially the "windows works on it, so I know it isn't the hardware". That one gets my goat. I have a windows machine right here that is underclocked because when I run linux (SUSE 8.2+), it is able to push the CPU to the point of errors where winDOZE can't. So it works fine with windows but breaks with linux. (to the credit of linux) AMD64 is another good example. M$ doesn't even have an OS for that one. So, when / if they ever come up with one, there is going to be a bunch of windoze only users that get broken machines and claim, "it worked before version X", when the linux users will have already figured out their problems (apic, sata, etc) and have fixed their BIOS's already. hehehehe It is true that linux doesn't get vendor support as fast or as good as M$, so I'm NOT saying it isn't software, however, I wouldn't rule out hardware either. luckily, with linux, you can fix it yourself and get support through forums like this. also, to the OP, you may want to try this next time you loose your cursor. login if from different machine via ssh. (if you can) see what resources are being used (top) maybe even kill artsd (longshot) and see if the cursor comes back. I have seen artsd take all cycles so that the X screen can't be refreshed. B-) On Tuesday 11 January 2005 09:13 am, Radule Soskic wrote:
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 14:42 +0000, Tiscali Gary D Chance wrote:
Hi!
I have a randomly occurring problem on my suse 9.2 (fully patched via YOU and upgraded to KDE 3.3.2 via yast/supplementary updates).
What happens is that my mouse cursor disappears sometimes, and the system stops responding to any mouse events. It happens rather rarely and on random, so I can not reproduce this, nor to guess about possible causes. Other than this, system works stably and reliably, with long uptimes.
When I restart X, all goes fine again. Mouse cursor shows up and everything works as normal. But, I use my suse as a desktop/office machine and it is very annoying when you have to close and restart everything in the middle of your work...
Is this seen by other members of the list? Are there possible explanations or solutions, maybe?
I hope at least that there might be some kind of workaround (like restarting some process, initiating system to scan and discover the mouse again or such...), but was not able to find anything useful on my own...
Any kind of help, please...
Reply:
I have the same kind of problem but not exactly. I haven't pursued it yet because in my case it might be hardware or software, and I can work around it as follows:
My cursor locks at sporadic intervals, but the system continues to operate (clock, keyboard, etc). I use Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the logout dialogue box and hit return since the "Logout" button is highlighted. This saves everything.
I then logout completely since startx will not restore the mouse operation at this point. I need to logon as root to shutdown, reboot and then all is fine for logging in again with everything being restored automatically including a working mouse.
I'm not sure this will help you if you cannot use Ctrl-Alt-Del to get out of your session. The mouse problem might be software and similar. Like you it does not happen very often, and I cannot identify any pattern. Until now I've lived with it.
Gary
I am pretty sure that it is not hardware. It never happened with suse9.1 and WinXP (I am not quite positive, but it might be that it even worked OK with 9.2 before yast updates). As far as I can see, my case is different from yours in this: I do not have to shutdown/reboot - it' enough just to restart X session...Also, when I dio ctrl-alt-del my screen locks and it's not possible to do any further or backward action. I can not use arrow keys to switch the buttons, or esc to go back. I *must* restart my X with ctrl-alt-backspace...It appears to be the only key combination that works once after I do ctrl-alt-del...
I still wait for some magic recipe from members of this list... ;-)
cikasole
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Brad Bourn
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Radule Soskic
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Tiscali Gary D Chance