Novell usually have a promo where they ship free when they first release the box for sale on their site. Perhaps worth waiting to see if they do it again. Keep checking http://www.novell.com/linux/. There is usually a really big banner ad when they do it. dg On 12/12/06, Mark Hounschell wrote:

D Gavrilovic wrote: For retail locations and more information, visit

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http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/resellers/index.html.

I found no mention of any retail locations. Am I, or am I not, going to be able to run down to the local Best Buy in a week or so and buy the box?

Thanks Mark

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Mark Hounschell wrote:

D Gavrilovic wrote: For retail locations and more information, visit

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http://www.novell.com/products/opensuse/resellers/index.html.

I found no mention of any retail locations. Am I, or am I not, going to be able to run down to the local Best Buy in a week or so and buy the box?

Thanks Mark

Mark, if you're in the U.S. I think you have to order it via http://shop.novell.com. It is available for order now for $59.95 + $5 shipping. You get the 32-bit and 64-bit packages on DVD, and the 32-bit packages on CD-ROM, a printed manual, 90 days of installation support, and "Security patches and bug fixes for up to 2 years". -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 16:15, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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You get the 32-bit and 64-bit packages on DVD, and the 32-bit packages on CD-ROM, a printed manual, 90 days of installation support, and "Security patches and bug fixes for up to 2 years".

I'm very familiar with what I get with the BOX. I've bought every one since 6.0 down the street at Best-Buy or Comp-USA.

I don't understand. Why won't I be able to purchase it in the same manner as I _always_ have. What has changed? Why? This is very disturbing to me.

I suspect this may be the last release that has a boxed version. Novell is scaling back on the marketing. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 12/12/06, Bruce Marshall wrote:

I suspect this may be the last release that has a boxed version. Novell is scaling back on the marketing.

Nah.. I am sure you will see Novell marketing & sales guys plugging SUSE at Linux roadshows coming Jan/Feb 07. It's approaching the holiday season and everything is winding down. I am glad the SUSE project teams managed to release 10.2 before the holidays. Gives all us geeks something to play with. So far, 10.2 has proven to be a great release edition. I probably tweaked a total on 1 or 2 hours -- everything else worked perfectly right out of install. And more importantly, the YOU issue is fixed. -- "Develop success from failures. Discouragement and failure are two of the surest stepping stones to success." - Dale Carnegie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mark Hounschell wrote:

Geir A. Myrestrand wrote:

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Mark, if you're in the U.S. I think you have to order it via http://shop.novell.com.

It is available for order now for $59.95 + $5 shipping.

You get the 32-bit and 64-bit packages on DVD, and the 32-bit packages on CD-ROM, a printed manual, 90 days of installation support, and "Security patches and bug fixes for up to 2 years".

I'm very familiar with what I get with the BOX. I've bought every one since 6.0 down the street at Best-Buy or Comp-USA.

Good boy! I only bought the 9.2 box, but got some of the other releases on discs that came with some of my magazine subscriptions.

I don't understand. Why won't I be able to purchase it in the same manner as I _always_ have. What has changed? Why? This is very disturbing to me.

It is disturbing to me too --especially after the MS-Novell deal, but I don't want to re-open that can of worms... Maybe Novell just wants to focus on SLES and SLED at retail? Well, no matter what the reason is, I don't like it either.... :-( -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

On 2006-12-12 15:15, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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I don't understand. Why won't I be able to purchase it in the same manner as I _always_ have. What has changed? Why? This is very disturbing to me.

Why don't you pose this question to the people you used to buy it from?

How would Best-But know why Novel isn't going to let it be sold in the stores.

Or, consult one of the other threads this month where the same question has been asked (and answered) already.

Do you have a thread subject I can look for? I must have clicked over it. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 12:15, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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I don't understand. Why won't I be able to purchase it in the same manner as I _always_ have. What has changed? Why? This is very disturbing to me.

Ah, come on, Mark! How big an issue can this be.

Very Disturbing?

like this is the biggest problem in your life?

Well, what if one doesn't use credit cards? This combined with other recent events with SuSE are of my biggest concerns in life right now. I'm sorry your life is so difficult and mine so easy John. I hope things get better for you. But also, our company buys and delivers SuSE linux with our product. We just shipped a series of machines with SuSE-10 (A box for every box) included because our product is certified on 10.0 or less. We have had no problems getting older releases in the past. I would guess that this will be 'mucking' all this up as well. Will they continue to sell me a 10.2 box even after 10.4 is released? Or will this turn out to be part of a MicroSoftish ploy to force companies to buy the SLES version instead of the regular version? Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 15:29 -0600, S Glasoe wrote:

On Wednesday 13 December 2006 03:59, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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But also, our company buys and delivers SuSE linux with our product. We just shipped a series of machines with SuSE-10 (A box for every box) included because our product is certified on 10.0 or less. We have had no problems getting older releases in the past. I would guess that this will be 'mucking' all this up as well. Will they continue to sell me a 10.2 box even after 10.4 is released? Or will this turn out to be part of a MicroSoftish ploy to force companies to buy the SLES version instead of the regular version?

Mark

Where is your company located (rhetorical) and where is the nearest Novell office to you? I'd be bugging a local sales rep about this since they should be a little closer to the answers than us. Don't know your quantities involved here but maybe they'd even work a deal and round up excess inventory of previous releases to keep your company happy. Usually Amazon.com has previous versions available for quite a long time.

Most of the Novell/SUSE employees on these lists are involved with the software _not_ the marketing, packaging, corporate decision making. So whether or not Novell/SUSE would continue to provide 10.2 when 10.4/11.x is out probably can't be answered here.

And if you do try my idea, let us know how it goes.

Stan

I'd be willing to bet that with the introduction of SLED long term support in any fashion for the "open" version will be limited to the programs outlined by opensuse's charter. JT -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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On Wednesday 13 December 2006 12:29, S Glasoe wrote:

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Most of the Novell/SUSE employees on these lists are involved with the software _not_ the marketing, packaging, corporate decision making.

And thank god for that. Can you imagine this list with a bunch of marketing droids? The horrors!

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On Wednesday 13 December 2006 02:25, John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 12:15, Mark Hounschell wrote:

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I don't understand. Why won't I be able to purchase it in the same manner as I _always_ have. What has changed? Why? This is very disturbing to me.

Ah, come on, Mark! How big an issue can this be.

Very Disturbing?

like this is the biggest problem in your life?

I guess it's about as disturbing as being upset with overnight delivery charges. $5 for DHL delivery is ok by me. If you want overnight, ya gotta pay more. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org