Hi All, New to the list. I am running suse 9.1, I did an on-line update last night, but never restarted my computer. This morning when I turn it on, it goes through the boot process and then blank screen. I restart in the failsafe mode, and then type "startx" it says that "xinint" could not be found. I'm not real good with linux, but my computer was working fine until I updated it last night. Any ideas as to what I might do to get it up and running again? Thanks, Bob
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bob Schmidt wrote: | Hi All, | | New to the list. I am running suse 9.1, I did an on-line update last | night, but never restarted my computer. This morning when I turn it on, | it goes through the boot process and then blank screen. I restart in the | failsafe mode, and then type "startx" it says that "xinint" could not be | found. I'm not real good with linux, but my computer was working fine | until I updated it last night. Any ideas as to what I might do to get it | up and running again? Hi Bob, I'm only guessing here, but if you have a special graphics card (i.e. uses an nVidia chip) you'll have to fix your configuration due the online-update installing a kernel update. I don't know the procedure off the top of my head, but this has been discussed many times on this list. Here's a link to a searchable archive of suse-linux-e: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=suse-linux-e&r=1&w=2 Search it using "nVidia" and "kernel update" or "black screen" etc. and you should be able to locate the necessary details. HTH & regards, - - Carl - -- ____________________________________________________________________ C. E. Hartung Business Development & Support Services http://www.cehartung.com/ carlh@cehartung.com Dover Foxcroft, Maine, USA Public Key #0x68396713 Reg. Linux User #350527 http://counter.li.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCBjeLusxgymg5ZxMRApzmAJ9Ssir5QiB1xcmZOY8bR5DVjCsEtgCcDELU LNxMTOebRbt07GAfR7F+HfQ= =DRpm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sunday 06 February 2005 07:16, Bob Schmidt wrote:
Hi All,
New to the list. I am running suse 9.1, I did an on-line update last night, but never restarted my computer. This morning when I turn it on, it goes through the boot process and then blank screen. I restart in the failsafe mode, and then type "startx" it says that "xinint" could not be found. I'm not real good with linux, but my computer was working fine until I updated it last night. Any ideas as to what I might do to get it up and running again?
Thanks, Bob
Bob, as Carl said, if you have nVidia card and are using their driver, this may be a problem. As I'm running a similar config, and I've gone through these steps a few days ago, just drop a line and I'll be more than happy to assist you. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
On Sunday 06 February 2005 09:57, Sunny wrote:
On Sunday 06 February 2005 07:16, Bob Schmidt wrote:
Hi All,
New to the list. I am running suse 9.1, I did an on-line update last night, but never restarted my computer. This morning when I turn it on, it goes through the boot process and then blank screen. I restart in the failsafe mode, and then type "startx" it says that "xinint" could not be found. I'm not real good with linux, but my computer was working fine until I updated it last night. Any ideas as to what I might do to get it up and running again?
Thanks, Bob
Bob, as Carl said, if you have nVidia card and are using their driver, this may be a problem. As I'm running a similar config, and I've gone through these steps a few days ago, just drop a line and I'll be more than happy to assist you.
Sunny
On Sunday 06 February 2005 12:12, you wrote:
Hi Sunny,
I am using an Nvidia graphics card, TNT2 Ultra with 32mb of ram. I sure could use the help if you're willing.
Thanks, Bob
Before you continue, you need kernel-sources package installed, If you did not install it, use yast (it has a text mode, so your not working X is not a problem) to do so. With kernel-sources installed: 1. Boot (or switch) to runlevel 3 2. login as root 3. #cd /usr/src/linux 4. #make cloneconfig 5. #make prepare-all 6. #nvidia-installer --uppdate -f This will contact the nvidia site and download the latest version of the driver, and will recreate the needed kernel modules. If you already have downloaded the latest driver (xxx.run from nvidia), just rerun the installer, it will recreate the modules. When you are ready, just #init 5 will put you in runlevel 5. This should work. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85 -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
On Sunday 06 February 2005 14:53, Bob wrote:
Hi Again,
I downloaded the kernel source packages. Then ran make cloneconfig. It came back with this error, "The .config file is a merged configuration; please remove it by hand before creating your own."
What file do I need to delete?
Thanks again for your help, Bob
Bob, I can't remember actually if the first time after the instalation of kernel-sources there was need for steps 4 and 5. I.e try to skip them and go directly with 6. If it fails because of not finding something while creating the kernel module, then try 5 - prepare-all, and then again try the nvidia installer. Cheers Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
The Sunday 2005-02-06 at 17:10 -0600, Sunny wrote:
With kernel-sources installed: 1. Boot (or switch) to runlevel 3 2. login as root 3. #cd /usr/src/linux 4. #make cloneconfig 5. #make prepare-all 6. #nvidia-installer --uppdate -f
This will contact the nvidia site and download the latest version of the driver, and will recreate the needed kernel modules.
And, what is the procedure without installing the latest version? SuSE rpms already contains the driver of version 1.0-5336: /lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.4-52-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.5-7.145-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.4-52-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.5-7.145-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/nv-kernel.o-1.0-5336 What was broken on the SuSE rpm? What can we do to repair the installation without upgrading? I hate to change the driver, when all kernel updates for suse 9.1 I tried didn't break nvidia. Only this one did. What went wrong? QA? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 14:27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2005-02-06 at 17:10 -0600, Sunny wrote:
And, what is the procedure without installing the latest version?
SuSE rpms already contains the driver of version 1.0-5336:
/lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.4-52-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.5-7.145-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.4-52-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.5-7.145-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/nv-kernel.o-1.0-5336
What was broken on the SuSE rpm? What can we do to repair the installation without upgrading?
I hate to change the driver, when all kernel updates for suse 9.1 I tried didn't break nvidia. Only this one did. What went wrong? QA?
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
I take it that the Nvidia drivers are broken in the 2.6.5-7.145 update. Sounds like I should wait for another update before installing. What ever happened to QA/testing? Never seemed to have this type of problem before SuSE was purchased by Novell. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 * Only reply to the list please* "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:58:23 -0500, Ken Schneider
On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 14:27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2005-02-06 at 17:10 -0600, Sunny wrote:
And, what is the procedure without installing the latest version?
SuSE rpms already contains the driver of version 1.0-5336:
/lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.4-52-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/precompiled/2.6.5-7.145-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.4-52-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/2.6.5-7.145-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 /lib/modules/scripts/nvidia/nv-kernel.o-1.0-5336
What was broken on the SuSE rpm? What can we do to repair the installation without upgrading?
I hate to change the driver, when all kernel updates for suse 9.1 I tried didn't break nvidia. Only this one did. What went wrong? QA?
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
I take it that the Nvidia drivers are broken in the 2.6.5-7.145 update. Sounds like I should wait for another update before installing. What ever happened to QA/testing? Never seemed to have this type of problem before SuSE was purchased by Novell.
I don't know why, but I never succeeded to install nVidia drivers with yast. So I made a manual installation (a long ago) and since then, on every kernel update I need to rebuild the kernel modules. It seems that all the logic behind the way SuSE are installing nVidia drivers is not so good, as even if you use YaST to install it, it will install the current driver with the modules for the current kernel (if they have prepared it). But after that, they are not going to include the new modules with the next kernel update, as there is no way to know how many people have nVidia drivers installed (and which version). So I guess the kernel updates are coming w/o nVidia modules for this update, and one have to rebuild, or maybe reinstall the driver from YaST. Sunny -- Get Firefox http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=10745&t=85
The Monday 2005-02-07 at 14:24 -0600, Sunny wrote:
I take it that the Nvidia drivers are broken in the 2.6.5-7.145 update. Sounds like I should wait for another update before installing. What ever happened to QA/testing? Never seemed to have this type of problem before SuSE was purchased by Novell.
Oh, yes. There have always been problems.
I don't know why, but I never succeeded to install nVidia drivers with yast. So I made a manual installation (a long ago) and since then, on every kernel update I need to rebuild the kernel modules.
It has worked here with every YOU update I did with SuSE 9.1 (not with 8.2). The kernel rpm contains the kernel modules, and update after update, they are ok and run first boot, without my intervention. This doesn't happen if you install the latest driver, SuSE packs 1.0-5336 for 9.1. Except this last one, it is broken. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Monday 07 February 2005 20:28, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2005-02-07 at 14:24 -0600, Sunny wrote:
I take it that the Nvidia drivers are broken in the 2.6.5-7.145 update. Sounds like I should wait for another update before installing. What ever happened to QA/testing? Never seemed to have this type of problem before SuSE was purchased by Novell.
Oh, yes. There have always been problems.
I don't know why, but I never succeeded to install nVidia drivers with yast. So I made a manual installation (a long ago) and since then, on every kernel update I need to rebuild the kernel modules.
It has worked here with every YOU update I did with SuSE 9.1 (not with 8.2). The kernel rpm contains the kernel modules, and update after update, they are ok and run first boot, without my intervention. This doesn't happen if you install the latest driver, SuSE packs 1.0-5336 for 9.1.
Actually I'm using 1.0-6629 from nVidia site, so maybe that's why I have this problem. I can't remember correctly, but I think when I installed 9.1, I couldn't make it install the drivers, and then I get a newer version from nVidia, and the circle started to roll :) Sunny
Except this last one, it is broken.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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The Monday 2005-02-07 at 20:50 -0600, Sunny wrote:
8.2). The kernel rpm contains the kernel modules, and update after update, they are ok and run first boot, without my intervention. This doesn't happen if you install the latest driver, SuSE packs 1.0-5336 for 9.1.
Actually I'm using 1.0-6629 from nVidia site, so maybe that's why I have this problem. I can't remember correctly, but I think when I installed 9.1, I couldn't make it install the drivers, and then I get a newer version from nVidia, and the circle started to roll :)
Exactly, that's what I meant :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
It has worked here with every YOU update I did with SuSE 9.1 (not with 8.2). The kernel rpm contains the kernel modules, and update after update, they are ok and run first boot, without my intervention. This doesn't happen if you install the latest driver, SuSE packs 1.0-5336 for 9.1.
Except this last one, it is broken. Are the module names correct? Maybe there was supposed to be a symlink from nvidia-version to nvidia or something (I use ATI so forgive me if I am in left field on this), or maybe there just needed to run a depmod -ae in the module directory. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
The Monday 2005-02-07 at 21:05 -0600, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
Except this last one, it is broken. Are the module names correct? Maybe there was supposed to be a symlink from nvidia-version to nvidia or something (I use ATI so forgive me if I am in left field on this),
I'm checking that right now. [...] There are only three nvidia related dirs in the previous rpm: ./scripts/nvidia/2.6.5-7.111.30-default/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336 ./precompiled/2.6.5-7.111.30-default/nvidia/gfx/nv-linux.o-1.0-5336.pre ./2.6.5-7.111.30-default/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko But there were no links. The files seem to be the same comparing kernel-default-2.6.5-7.145.i586.rpm to kernel-default-2.6.5-7.111.30.i586.rpm.
or maybe there just needed to run a depmod -ae in the module directory.
I don't see the option -a, only -e -e --errsyms When combined with the -F option, this reports any symbols which a module needs which are not supplied by other modules or the kernel. Normally, any symbols not provided by modules are assumed to be provided by the kernel (which should be true in a perfect world). Ah! It is depmod.old(8) that has option -a. In any case, when run, no error message at all. Thanks anyway. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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