Re: [SLE] Changing from Windows to SuSE
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use. For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her? Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her? Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff. Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution? She's real determined to get off using Windows 2k OS on her laptop asap, so I must get SuSE on there soon or else ;) Btw, I never thought you were or not Pro Windows, they both have there place in computing ...;) On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 15:21, Michael Hieb wrote:
VMWare costs money, but I can tell you from experience it is well worth if you want things to work. Also I can tell you from experience that if you want to work with high-end windows apps, doing so from a linux platform will make the windows experience worse, not better. If this is your objective, better to stay on the windows platform and use a good PC X-server e.g. eXceed which will integrate the linux into windows relativly seemlessly.
Before you conclude I am pro-windows (which I definiely am not), I must ask why you don't consider moving her entirly to linux, use apps like the GIMP., etc... in place of the windows apps she likes. The learning curve is real but they are high quality powerful apps that will acmplish everything she is used to, if in a different way.
Just my thoughts...
On 09 Jan 2003 15:13:44 +0000
I am not a VMWare fan, I belive it runs a little slow. Try out win4lin, follow this link for a bit more info http://linux.bryanconsulting.com/stories/storyReader$129 -----Original Message----- From: arawak [mailto:arawak@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:03 PM To: Suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Changing from Windows to SuSE Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use. For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her? Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her? Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff. Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution? She's real determined to get off using Windows 2k OS on her laptop asap, so I must get SuSE on there soon or else ;) Btw, I never thought you were or not Pro Windows, they both have there place in computing ...;) On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 15:21, Michael Hieb wrote:
VMWare costs money, but I can tell you from experience it is well worth if you want things to work. Also I can tell you from experience that if you want to work with high-end windows apps, doing so from a linux platform will make the windows experience worse, not better. If this is your objective, better to stay on the windows platform and use a good PC X-server e.g. eXceed which will integrate the linux into windows relativly seemlessly.
Before you conclude I am pro-windows (which I definiely am not), I must ask why you don't consider moving her entirly to linux, use apps like the GIMP., etc... in place of the windows apps she likes. The learning curve is real but they are high quality powerful apps that will acmplish everything she is used to, if in a different way.
Just my thoughts...
On 09 Jan 2003 15:13:44 +0000
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On Thursday 09 January 2003 10:04 am, Gedi wrote:
I am not a VMWare fan, I belive it runs a little slow. Try out win4lin, follow this link for a bit more info http://linux.bryanconsulting.com/stories/storyReader$129
I have found win4lin to work quite well, my daughter and wife both are able to run legacy (win98) apps (including ms office and mspublisher) w/ very little problems. Their support and mailing list are quite good, alot of SuSErs on the list :-) The main drawback w/ win4lin is lack of directx support (my daughter has run into some web sites that check for directx). I know that win4lin will run win98, but I'm not sure about win2000, The site mentioned below will give more info. http://www.netraverse.com/products/index.php -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!
At 18:04 01/09/2003 +0000, Gedi wrote:
I am not a VMWare fan, I belive it runs a little slow. Try out win4lin, follow this link for a bit more info http://linux.bryanconsulting.com/stories/storyReader$129
-----Original Message----- From: arawak [mailto:arawak@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:03 PM To: Suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Changing from Windows to SuSE
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use.
and so on...remainder skipped. I was under the impression that Win4Lin was only optimised to run MS Word and the MS spreadsheet, whatever they call it. Are you saying that it will do special graphics routines written for Windows? Perhaps Autocad LT also? Does anyone know if this is true? The last time I looked, Win4Lin was just WINE optimised for a couple of MS programs, but not real WINE, which is still pretty much in alpha, AFAIK. --doug
On Thursday 09 January 2003 06:59 pm, Doug McGarrett wrote: -------------snip-------------
I was under the impression that Win4Lin was only optimised to run MS Word and the MS spreadsheet, whatever they call it.
That sounds like CrossoverOffice, a program that many people seem quite happy with.
Are you saying that it will do special graphics routines written for Windows? Perhaps Autocad LT also?
Win4lin allows you to create a complete (minus DirectX, (and perhaps direct sound)) winders environment under linux. The speed of this emulation is (for my purposes) very close to what I get when booting into winders natively. Any (non-DirectX) application that runs under win 98 works (in my experience) under win4lin. There are apps that I couldn't get to work natively under winders that work fine on win4lin. Caveat, you need to have a winders licence and the acompanying cd to install it on Win4Lin, due to M$opoly you probably got this w/ at least 1 computer in your life. The other gotcha is that win4lin will run win95 and win98 but I'm not sure about win2000/nt/xp (I think they do not work). For these you will need vmware (which I believe may also support directX) I'm a satisfied customer, it does what they said it will. -- dh Don't shop at GoogleGear.com!
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I was under the impression that Win4Lin was only optimised to run MS Word and the MS spreadsheet, whatever they call it. Are you saying that it will do special graphics routines written for Windows? Perhaps Autocad LT also? Does anyone know if this is true? The last time I looked, Win4Lin was just WINE optimised for a couple of MS programs, but not real WINE, which is still pretty much in alpha, AFAIK.
No way. I'm not sure how it works exactly, but it's basically a virtual OS (boots up, has a desktop and the whole 9) that allows you to install quite a lot. It's quite good. I wanted to go 100% Windows-free, so I just learned to live without certain things. But if you NEED it, Win4Lin is excellent. Preston
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:03, arawak wrote:
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use.
For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her?
Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her?
Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff.
Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution?
She's real determined to get off using Windows 2k OS on her laptop asap, so I must get SuSE on there soon or else ;)
Btw, I never thought you were or not Pro Windows, they both have there place in computing ...;)
Look at the "Grokking the GIMP" book. You should have a copy of it on your CD's This might help you/her with questions about the GIMP. Not sure about Quanta. Evolution looks similar to Outlook and has a similar feel. She can try several clients and then she can pick from the ones that she likes to use. Hope that this helps -- Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 20:23, Marshall Heartley wrote:
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:03, arawak wrote:
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use.
For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her?
Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her?
Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff.
Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution?
She's real determined to get off using Windows 2k OS on her laptop asap, so I must get SuSE on there soon or else ;)
Btw, I never thought you were or not Pro Windows, they both have there place in computing ...;)
Look at the "Grokking the GIMP" book. You should have a copy of it on your CD's This might help you/her with questions about the GIMP. Not sure about Quanta. Evolution looks similar to Outlook and has a similar feel. She can try several clients and then she can pick from the ones that she likes to use. Hope that this helps -- Marshall
"Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible." -- arawak
Sorry for the last blank email ;-) But where is this manual, in which directory is Grokking_the_GIMP ? Dre ;) On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 20:23, Marshall Heartley wrote:
Look at the "Grokking the GIMP" book. You should have a copy of it on your CD's This might help you/her with questions about the GIMP. Not sure about Quanta. Evolution looks similar to Outlook and has a similar feel. She can try several clients and then she can pick from the ones that she likes to use. Hope that this helps -- Marshall
"Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
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arawak
--- arawak
Sorry for the last blank email ;-)
But where is this manual, in which directory is Grokking_the_GIMP ?
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On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 16:30, arawak wrote:
Sorry for the last blank email ;-)
But where is this manual, in which directory is Grokking_the_GIMP ?
Dre ;)
You can get it by installing it in Yast. Search for gimp and install the package. It should install in /usr/share/doc/Books. Hope that this helps. Also there should be a link in the SuSE helpcenter -- Marshall "Nothing is impossible, We just do not have all the anwsers to make the impossible, possible."
On 09 Jan 2003 17:03:19 +0000
arawak
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use.
For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her?
There are linux command line tools for constructing animated gifs, Graphic Workshops's GifAnimator works under wine, but the colors look crummy.
Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her?
Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff.
Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution?
She's real determined to get off using Windows 2k OS on her laptop asap, so I must get SuSE on there soon or else ;)
If she's really determined, she will adopt available methods. There is always a dual boot, so she can go back into windows for this or that. If she dosn't go online with windows, there isn't much they can do to "invade her privacy". Just always go online with linux and the firewall setup. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On 9 Jan 2003, arawak wrote:
Well she's let me know that she'd like to use Gimp, but Macromedia MX has the Flash technology, which she needs to use.
Not sure what to tell you on that, except to say that Win4Lin works REALLY well. Not sure if Macromedia MX will work, but they take returns at Netraverse and I'd be surprised if it didn't work for that.
For animated gifs she uses Ulead's gif animator or Fireworks MX can Gimp do this for her?
Vector graphics is Gimp capable of doing this for her?
Not sure about that. I think this is the same as above, though, really. If Macromedia MX is an absolute *must* then you'll probably have to use Win4Lin anyway, in which case you'll have a version of Windows hanging around to do other image stuff. The Gimp is good and I know it has *some* Vector Graphics support. Hopefully someone can answer this difinitively.
Quanta Plus can do her Xml/Html stuff.
Quanta is excellent. Shouldn't be a problem there.
Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution?
Evolution is a great email client and Kmail (I just started using it) seems terrific. If she has email already in Outlook and wants to export it, it's possible to transfer email from Outlook to Mozilla and then to export from Mozilla (while still on Windows mind you) to a format you can use on Linux. Preston
The 03.01.09 at 17:03, arawak wrote:
Her Email is in Outlook how could she read them in Kmail/Evolution?
What I have found works best is to install netscape or mozilla in windows, then import the outlook folders, etc, and finally use those folders in linux. It is posible to set mozilla to use the same files both in linux and windows, so you don't have to break your ties completely. Once used mozilla for the import from outlook, it is also posible to make kmail to use the same folders as mozilla (mind: I don't say import). However, Evolution has got to import, it is a one way operation. This is documented on the unofficial suse faq. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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