I recently installed the vim-enhanced (7.3 22.1.3) and gvim-7.3.22 (which is called 'gvim-normal' upon install though it seems to have the script langs). The console version of vi hangs on startup if an 'X' server isn't running (DISPLAY is defined whether the X server is running or not)... I run 'vi' rarely, but have had lately because my 'X' servers on Windows are broken (cygwin and Xming...).. so vi hangs ... The reason I use 'vi(m)' is often because I don't have an 'X' server running. It still **eventuallly**.. (if you interrupt where it is waiting in the network call to the Xserver -- checked via strace), get 'vi' to come up in console mode. If the 'X' server is running, it comes up promptly in console mode. But it shouldn't require the X server to be running at all (not for 'vim')... has this been patched yet? forgive me if it has been already -- I have been dilatory in updating my patches directory... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org