[opensuse] Need help with 'focus stealing'
I'm using KDE4 and i know about the focus stealing part of systemsettings. What I don't seem to be able to do is get the right balance between the Thunderbird stanza and the Firefox stanza Right now when I'm in Thunderbird and reading mail from, for example, ZDNet, which has a number of links to articles, as I click on any one the focus switches to Firefox. What I *want* is to stay in Thunderbird, click on all the links to articles of interest and them manually switch focus to Firefox. I've played with the settings back and forth and don't seem able to get the right combination. Can anyone advise? -- We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it. --Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Friday, 27. July 2012 schrieb Anton Aylward: Hi Anton, I had the same problem with kmail and ff. Solution from the german suse list:
I'm using KDE4 and i know about the focus stealing part of systemsettings. What I don't seem to be able to do is get the right balance between the Thunderbird stanza and the Firefox stanza
Enter "about:config" in FF, select "browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground" and set it to "true". If that doesn't help, do you have the FF extension "Configuration Mania" installed? There is a similiar setting. ...
Can anyone advise?
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Hermann J. Beckers said the following on 07/27/2012 08:57 AM:
Am Friday, 27. July 2012 schrieb Anton Aylward: Hi Anton, I had the same problem with kmail and ff. Solution from the german suse list:
I'm using KDE4 and i know about the focus stealing part of systemsettings. What I don't seem to be able to do is get the right balance between the Thunderbird stanza and the Firefox stanza
Enter "about:config" in FF, select "browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground" and set it to "true".
Yes, that leaves the focus on Thunderbird. Good! But there is a side effect. The clicked-on URL is not the selected URL tab when I do eventually switch to Firefox. I have Firefox set so that on closing a tab it goes to the "previously selected". That means that if I were to click on a series of links in Thunderbird and the focus stayed on Thunderbird, then when I switched to Firefox I would be on the last one and could read and close them in reverse order. You see the 'work-flow"? That's why I wanted a simple no focus-stealing. In effect it would 'automate' the tab selection I have to do by hand with Hermann's otherwise excellent suggestion, one that I'm going to live with for now since the switching was what was really annoying me. -- Oh, I thought it meant "Control Self Assessment", a rigorous, highly structured and essentially pointless method for giving auditors the answers they expect to hear whilst at the same time appearing to be Doing Something Positive About Governance. -- Gary Hinson Passionate about security awareness -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/07/27 06:54 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
I'm using KDE4 and i know about the focus stealing part of systemsettings. What I don't seem to be able to do is get the right balance between the Thunderbird stanza and the Firefox stanza
Right now when I'm in Thunderbird and reading mail from, for example, ZDNet, which has a number of links to articles, as I click on any one the focus switches to Firefox.
What I *want* is to stay in Thunderbird, click on all the links to articles of interest and them manually switch focus to Firefox.
I've played with the settings back and forth and don't seem able to get the right combination.
Can anyone advise?
SeaMonkey, the current name for the old Mozilla Web Suite from which both FF & TB were spun off. A welcome bonus, besides general feature integration from any suite, is RAM saving, since one Gecko engine suffices to run SM while FF & TB each use its own. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Felix Miata said the following on 07/27/2012 09:31 AM:
SeaMonkey, the current name for the old Mozilla Web Suite from which both FF & TB were spun off. A welcome bonus, besides general feature integration from any suite, is RAM saving, since one Gecko engine suffices to run SM while FF & TB each use its own.
If I were to give up on FF it would be to move to Chrom-something. That FF and TB don't share enough code as common libraries with separate data spaces is another matter, and one that should be addressed by pressuring Mozilla. Right now I see things like http://ilias.ca/SeamonkeyvsFirefox which, admittedly out of date, make me think "six of one/half a dozen of the other" So, even looking at other arguments and more recent descriptions of SeaMonkey I don't see enough reason to change. Back to my original question then. -- I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell. - H. Truman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:54:44 -0400
Anton Aylward
I'm using KDE4 and i know about the focus stealing part of systemsettings. What I don't seem to be able to do is get the right balance between the Thunderbird stanza and the Firefox stanza
Right now when I'm in Thunderbird and reading mail from, for example, ZDNet, which has a number of links to articles, as I click on any one the focus switches to Firefox.
What I *want* is to stay in Thunderbird, click on all the links to articles of interest and them manually switch focus to Firefox.
I've played with the settings back and forth and don't seem able to get the right combination.
Can anyone advise?
You can set 'per program' focus stealing by right clicking on the programs title bar (top of window), selecting "Advanced > Special Window Settings > Appearances & Fixes > Focus stealing prevention" and setting that to your preference. Tom, B<)) -- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2 openSUSE 12.1x86_64 openSUSE 12.2x86_64 KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0 KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Thomas Taylor said the following on 07/27/2012 07:19 PM:
You can set 'per program' focus stealing by right clicking on the programs title bar (top of window), selecting "Advanced > Special Window Settings > Appearances & Fixes > Focus stealing prevention" and setting that to your preference.
AH! And when I look at the 'systemsettings' the identification is very different from what I had been editing! So what I had been editing probably wasn't being matched ... ??? Now: Do I set this for BOTH FF and TB? If I want to stay with TB which do I set high and which do I set low? -- "Unless the people, through unified action, arise and take charge of their government, they will find that their government has taken charge of them. Independence and liberty will be gone, and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish interest." -- Calvin Coolidge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 10:00:37 -0400
Anton Aylward
Thomas Taylor said the following on 07/27/2012 07:19 PM:
You can set 'per program' focus stealing by right clicking on the programs title bar (top of window), selecting "Advanced > Special Window Settings > Appearances & Fixes > Focus stealing prevention" and setting that to your preference.
AH!
And when I look at the 'systemsettings' the identification is very different from what I had been editing! So what I had been editing probably wasn't being matched ... ???
Now: Do I set this for BOTH FF and TB? If I want to stay with TB which do I set high and which do I set low?
I use Claws-Mail but the principle is the same. I have both CM and FF set to "low" and haven't had any focus stealing issues. You may need to try different settings to satisfy your situation. Tom -- “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2 openSUSE 12.1x86_64 openSUSE 12.2x86_64 KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0 KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0 claws-mail 3.8.0 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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