[opensuse] 11.2 GNOME-KDE4.5 on same system
Hello all, Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE. I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586). TKS, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> Nothing is ever a complete failure. It can always be used as a bad example. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:21:03 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not.
Hi, I had never configured/enabled KDE4.4 on my system. If I do a zypper up, then I see many new KDE4.5 available updates that went no installed due different vendor policy. Why GNOME is so massively involved into the "dist-upgrade" when we are talking of KDE? Cheers, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> Always give your best, never get discouraged, never be petty. Always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself. -- Richard Nixon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/6/2010 11:29 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:21:03 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not.
Hi,
I had never configured/enabled KDE4.4 on my system. If I do a zypper up, then I see many new KDE4.5 available updates that went no installed due different vendor policy.
Why GNOME is so massively involved into the "dist-upgrade" when we are talking of KDE?
Cheers,
You may not have configured KDE 4.4, but are you sure it's not installed? a dist upgrade will do a distro upgrade. I.E. 11.2 to 11.3. So vendor changes will happen. What you want is # zypper up which will do a regular update and not try to upgrade to a new distro. This may be of some help http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-09/msg00114.html. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:54:18 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:29 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:21:03 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not.
Hi,
I had never configured/enabled KDE4.4 on my system. If I do a zypper up, then I see many new KDE4.5 available updates that went no installed due different vendor policy.
Why GNOME is so massively involved into the "dist-upgrade" when we are talking of KDE?
Cheers,
You may not have configured KDE 4.4, but are you sure it's not installed?
a dist upgrade will do a distro upgrade. I.E. 11.2 to 11.3. So vendor changes will happen. What you want is
# zypper up
which will do a regular update and not try to upgrade to a new distro.
This may be of some help http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-09/msg00114.html.
Not agree with you: In my case the installed KDE4.5 refers to openSUSE as vendor, while all the updates announced are coming from OBS Factory (sorry if I'm wrong on naming but I'm not on the affected system) so in order to install them I must use "zypper dup" after selecting KDE4.5 repos and giving a lower priority to these. Same thing (zypper dup) I made to upgrade GNOME from 2.26 to 2.28. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> ...if you think unity is the highest political value, you need to ask yourself: Would you rather have national agreement on positions you fundamentally oppose, or would you rather have divisiveness with a chance for victory another day? -- Jonah Goldberg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:21:03 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not.
Hi,
I had never configured/enabled KDE4.4 on my system. If I do a zypper up, then I see many new KDE4.5 available updates that went no installed due different vendor policy.
Why GNOME is so massively involved into the "dist-upgrade" when we are talking of KDE?
Cheers,
If you are trying to go from 11.2 4.1 (?) to 4.5 Factory then that will involve a vendor change. And there is shared code between KDE and Gnome (more or less depending on what's installed overall). You might alternatively try using YaST. Under the Repository tab select the 4.5 repo from the list and then click on "switch system packages to the versions in this repository". From there you will have more granular visibililty and control of resolving dependencies, and you need not actually change anything until everything looks satisfactory. Sometimes there can be a chain effect where one unresolved dependency in turn creates others which creates others; resolving the first elimiinates the others. That said, an en masse architecture change from X86_64 to i586 seems very strange. Having done a heckuva lot of upgrades over the years, I can't remember ever having seen that. Wise to use utmost caution. If its an option with your setup, it might be best to do a test simulation on a separate copy of your system. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday, September 06, 2010 09:46:07 pm dwgallien wrote:
...it might be best to do a test simulation on a separate copy of your system.
or how about a fresh install, and then move your /home directory into that? sounds like less of trouble to me. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 13:22:42 (-0300 UTC) phanisvara das wrote:
On Monday, September 06, 2010 09:46:07 pm dwgallien wrote:
...it might be best to do a test simulation on a separate copy of your system.
or how about a fresh install, and then move your /home directory into that? sounds like less of trouble to me.
-- phani.
I will do it only in case of a 11.2 full upgrade to one of the nextcoming release and not just to upgrade a DE especially since my default DE is GNOME. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> That'll also give it a more Russian feel. You know, big tractor, big potato, E flat. -- Robert Parker, TACIT Music Director -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 13:16:07 (-0300 UTC) dwgallien wrote:
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:21:03 (-0300 UTC) Michael S. Dunsaavage wrote:
On 9/6/2010 11:09 AM, Marco Calistri wrote:
Hello all,
Wonder if are there any chances to dist-upgrade KDE4.5 onto a openSUSE 11.2 x86_64 system, where GNOME is also installed as DE.
I ask this, since by attempting to dist-upgrade to KDE4.5 with zypper dup, it resolved into a request of changing the arch for big list of GNOME stuff (from x86_64 to i586).
TKS,
You're doing a dup. Okay, what if you try disabling the 4.4 repos and activate 4.5 repos and then just do a zypper *up* ? That shouldn't effect Gnome unless there's a Gnome upgrade. dup will try to change vendor and arch, up should not.
Hi,
I had never configured/enabled KDE4.4 on my system. If I do a zypper up, then I see many new KDE4.5 available updates that went no installed due different vendor policy.
Why GNOME is so massively involved into the "dist-upgrade" when we are talking of KDE?
Cheers,
If you are trying to go from 11.2 4.1 (?) to 4.5 Factory then that will involve a vendor change. And there is shared code between KDE and Gnome (more or less depending on what's installed overall).
You might alternatively try using YaST. Under the Repository tab select the 4.5 repo from the list and then click on "switch system packages to the versions in this repository". From there you will have more granular visibililty and control of resolving dependencies, and you need not actually change anything until everything looks satisfactory. Sometimes there can be a chain effect where one unresolved dependency in turn creates others which creates others; resolving the first elimiinates the others.
That said, an en masse architecture change from X86_64 to i586 seems very strange. Having done a heckuva lot of upgrades over the years, I can't remember ever having seen that. Wise to use utmost caution. If its an option with your setup, it might be best to do a test simulation on a separate copy of your system.
Very nice comments dwgallien, I liked really much. Cheers, -- Marco Calistri http://mcalistri.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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