Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)
I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email threading than there were for the original question. I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted. Can't we cut each other some slack? On Saturday 19 January 2008 10:10:32 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, January 19, 2008 7:11 am, Philipp Thomas wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote:
This is email. There is no thread.
Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there are mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail header were invented for?
Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a different story.
My apologies. I forgot that you can thread emails on KMail.
All decent mail programs do thread. Thunderbird, Mozilla, Kmail, even text only clients like Pine or mutt. Gmail web client does thread, but it calls it "conversations".
And the archive is threaded.
Even Outlook does thread:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchZxUFbeX4hpExoQh2zru0l/TqnbgAAC2AA
Although being Microsoft, it uses something else instead of the standard.
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Mike Diehl wrote:
[top-posting stupidity moved to bottom]
The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, January 19, 2008 7:11 am, Philipp Thomas wrote:
This is email. There is no thread. Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there are mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote: header were invented for?
Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a different story. My apologies. I forgot that you can thread emails on KMail. All decent mail programs do thread. Thunderbird, Mozilla, Kmail, even text only clients like Pine or mutt. Gmail web client does thread, but it calls it "conversations".
And the archive is threaded.
Even Outlook does thread:
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AchZxUFbeX4hpExoQh2zru0l/TqnbgAAC2AA
Although being Microsoft, it uses something else instead of the standard.
I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email
On Saturday 19 January 2008 10:10:32 am Carlos E. R. wrote: threading than there were for the original question.
You'll notice that when he started a thread with that topic, he got answers to his question. Whereas in this hijacked branch, he got NO answers to his question.
I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted.
Since you deliberately, to act stupid, I'll bet you're right.
Can't we cut each other some slack?
In short - No. Mail list rules are needed. Even as far back as 30 years ago, experience shows that even when the entire membership consists of highly competent doctorate level computer engineers and scientists, without such rules, the list falls rather quickly into complete chaos. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 19 January 2008 06:21:14 pm Mike Diehl wrote:
I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email threading than there were for the original question.
I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted. Can't we cut each other some slack?
We can, but than we have to change http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette We had discussions in a few very long threads on what is acceptable and what not. The article is merely describing common ground that most of the users find comfortable. You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting is sorting emails and makes reading effortless. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 20:54 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 19 January 2008 06:21:14 pm Mike Diehl wrote:
I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email threading than there were for the original question.
I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted. Can't we cut each other some slack?
We can, but than we have to change http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
We had discussions in a few very long threads on what is acceptable and what not. The article is merely describing common ground that most of the users find comfortable.
You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting is sorting emails and makes reading effortless.
Interesting you should say that. I'm a low-vision user myself. Over on blind-user mailing lists, like the GNOME Orca mailing list, they choose top-posting. I've never seen one email over there that was bottom-posted. And these people use devices such as braille readers, audio screen readers, etc. I'm always making a conscious decision. If I'm posting on openSUSE... follow the rules and bottom-post. If I'm on the other mailing lists, top-post. :-) -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Interesting. I don't have accessibility needs (if you don't count slow typing). I just imagined that sorted mail in thread and text in chronological order will make use of audio screen readers easier. Though, now I know that it is easier to have last mail at the top and just jump from one mail to the other. -- Regards, Rajko On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:36:54 pm Bryen wrote:
You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting is sorting emails and makes reading effortless.
Interesting you should say that. I'm a low-vision user myself. Over on blind-user mailing lists, like the GNOME Orca mailing list, they choose top-posting. I've never seen one email over there that was bottom-posted. And these people use devices such as braille readers, audio screen readers, etc.
I'm always making a conscious decision. If I'm posting on openSUSE... follow the rules and bottom-post. If I'm on the other mailing lists, top-post. :-)
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